Download to read offline
![What to do when your LMS can’t do it all Byron Brown, [email_address] Susan Simkowski, [email_address] David Stack, [email_address] Anastasia Trekles, [email_address] eli2011.pathable.com/talks/14771](https://image.slidesharecdn.com/educauseelilmspresentation6-110302135537-phpapp02/85/When-Your-LMS-Can-t-Do-it-All-33-320.jpg)
Uploaded byStaci Trekles
When Your LMS Can't Do it All
The document discusses the limitations of traditional Learning Management Systems (LMS) and explores alternative tools and methods to enhance student engagement and collaboration in educational settings. Presenters share their motivations for looking beyond LMS, highlight specific challenges, and recommend various technologies such as Wikispaces, Adobe Connect, and social media platforms for better instructional support. The presentation also addresses concerns regarding FERPA compliance, licensing, and support for non-LMS tools from a university IT perspective.
More Related Content
![Powerpoint learning communities networked learning (sept 30 2011)[1]](https://cdn.slidesharecdn.com/ss_thumbnails/powerpointlearningcommunitiesnetworkedlearningsept3020111-110930074806-phpapp02-thumbnail.jpg?width=640&height=640&fit=bounds)
Similar to When Your LMS Can't Do it All
More from Staci Trekles
When Your LMS Can't Do it All
- 1. What to dowhen your LMS can’t do it all Byron Brown Susan Simkowski David Stack Anastasia Trekles (Optional survey card for DC attendees)
- 2. We are nothere to… Disparage any particular learning management system (LMS) Advocate abandoning the use of a campus-wide LMS Sometimes, the LMS alone isn’t enough.
- 3. Challenges for today’ssession Looking for live interaction Both in-person and streaming formats Two of our four presenters are not able to attend in-person, but we have technology to the rescue… (fingers crossed)
- 4. Prof. Susan SimkowskiUniversity of Arkansas Fort Smith
- 5. My motivation forlooking beyond LMS: Restricted access for instructor No/limited video capability Desire to meet the students’ where they are Want alternative, free tools
- 6.
- 7. What would youhave recommended to the presenter?
- 8. Here is whatI did Engrade.com as a repository & threaded discussion Wordpress & blogspot (“I-reporter” type assignments for MMJ/backpack journalism) Facebook & Twitter
- 9. Prof. Anastasia TreklesPurdue University Calumet
- 10. My motivation forlooking beyond LMS: Instructional designers are taught to never use technology just for technology’s sake, but to use it judiciously In teaching instructional design and technology to graduate students, I must model this We should also attempt to “meet students where they are” Forcing activities to fit within the LMS structure just because it is what is available limits creativity, engagement, and lesson effectiveness, e.g., LMS discussion forums inadequate for collaboration LMS chat room doesn’t support sharing documents or screens LMS threaded discussions are “clunky” This portion of the presentation is on screencast: http://www.screencast.com/t/DnUjzEhrT 00:00 – 03:40
- 11. My motivation forlooking beyond LMS: I have three activities that required me to consider going beyond the LMS: A group writing project Students facilitate synchronous presentations Students share thoughts and links around a central topic
- 12.
- 13. What would youhave recommended to the presenter?
- 14. Here is whatI did Many of my courses require collaboration, but basing all activities on discussion forums - almost exclusively - was not appropriate So, I have implemented several outside services to encourage engagement and to facilitate certain lessons: Wikispaces (wiki) Adobe Connect (webinar/chat) WordPress (blogs) This portion of the presentation is on screencast: http://www.screencast.com/t/DnUjzEhrT 03:40 – 14:07
- 15. Here is whatI did Example 1 : one of my courses requires the group construction of a research-based survey BlackBoard Vista has no tool for this beyond discussion boards, so I use Wikispaces to allow true collaborative writing Allows for true tracking of participation (for me) as well as easier editing and sharing ideas (for students) http://edci575.wikispaces.com
- 16. Here is whatI did Example 2 : another activity requires students to present and facilitate a live online discussion BlackBoard Vista has a chat room, but it does not allow for sharing documents or screens Enter Adobe Connect, which our school has a license for and makes for much richer synchronous experiences Example presentation: https://gomeet.itap.purdue.edu/p10221215/
- 17. Here is whatI did Example 3 : in many courses, students are asked to share their thoughts about a topic, which might include references and links Sure, we could use discussion forums, but in some cases the threaded discussion is too “clunky” Why not HotSeat? This is a creation by Purdue that meets students “where they are” – on Twitter and Facebook Simple social networking interface, easy to use, and allows for near real-time interaction http://www.purdue.edu/hotseat/splash.html
- 18. Prof. Byron BrownMichigan State University
- 19. My motivation forlooking beyond LMS: Part of my duties as campus coordinator of instructional tech support Faculty requests for alternatives/additions This portion of the presentation is on screencast: http://www.screencast.com/t/WpoTmeaHn 00:00 - 00:48
- 20.
- 21. What would youhave recommended to the presenter?
- 22. Here is whatMSU did, and what you might do. Support one or more additional LMS’s. LON-CAPA and Moodle at MSU Support near-LMS alternatives Google Apps, Ning, WordPress… Provide faculty and staff training & devel. Seminars, technology fairs, and training. This portion of the presentation is on screencast: http://www.screencast.com/t/WpoTmeaHn 00:49 – 04:47
- 23. Deputy CIO DavidStack University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
- 24. Central IT’s Concerns:FERPA Will a Web 2.0 or cloud service publicly reveal student educational records? Institutional LMS is deployed with built-in FERPA defaults
- 25. Central IT’s Concerns:Licenses Will a non LMS service require students to agree to a 3 rd party contract? Institutional LMS uses campus IDs, passwords and policies.
- 26. Central IT’s Concerns:Rosters Do you want to manage student enrollment in a non-campus tool? Institutional LMS automatically adds and drops students from the tool.
- 27. Central IT’s Concerns:Consistency Upgrades and changes to consumer tools can happen at any time. Upgrades to the institutional LMS happen at times of minimum impact.
- 28. Central IT’s Concerns:Support There may be little or no campus support for non-campus tools. Structures are in place to support use of the institutional LMS.
- 29. What do wesee on the survey cards from the DC attendees?
- 30. Additional Resources AnastasiaTrekles: Recorded Presentation: http://www.screencast.com/t/DnUjzEhrT Wikispaces Example: http://edci575.wikispaces.com Adobe Connect Example: https://gomeet.itap.purdue.edu/p10221215/ Purdue Hotseat Example: http://www.purdue.edu/hotseat/splash.html
- 31. Additional Resources ByronBrown Recorded Presentation http://www.screencast.com/t/WpoTmeaHn The Thinking LMS – University of Phoenix builds their own LMS with social media features: www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/10/18/phoenix
- 32. Additional Resources Results(n=1,700) of 2010 Survey of UW-System faculty satisfaction with LMSs : http://learnuw.wisconsin.edu/survey/ Reasons why about 14% don’t use an LMS: 26% Not see need/Dislike technology 14% Use different or own technology solutions 12% Too much time/Not enough time to learn 11% Not a teacher 11% Not know about the D2L (LMS) technology 10% Not typical, e.g. teaching groups of students in classroom environment 7% Not appropriate for teaching style 5% Specific comment about D2L LMS 6% Other 3% Not know how to use/want more training
- 33. What to dowhen your LMS can’t do it all Byron Brown, [email_address] Susan Simkowski, [email_address] David Stack, [email_address] Anastasia Trekles, [email_address] eli2011.pathable.com/talks/14771
Editor's Notes
- #24 Central IT has concerns about the use of systems and tools that are not provided by institution. Faculty members should balance the risks they are taking with the enhanced capabilities and pedagogical advantages of tools they find in the consumer market.
- #25 An important FERPA provision is that in most cases an institution must have a student’s permission before disclosing any of their educational records. Institutional LMS is deployed with built-in FERPA defaults. Will a Web 2.0 or cloud service publicly reveal student educational records? Do you and your students read and/or understand the implications of the privacy agreements that are inherent in most consumer social media and Web 2.0 tools? Do you and your students truly understand what it being kept“ private” to the class and what is generally visible on the Internet? Can a configuration change by one student on their personal profile accidentally expose class conversations, etc., that the others are assuming are private?
- #26 The institutional LMS make use of existing campus IDs and passwords and conforms to campus IT policies that the students have already accepted one way or another when they got their campus accounts. Will using a non-campus service require students to enter into a contract with a 3 rd party. Do you want to require or even just imply to your students that you are requiring them to do so? Do you and your students read and/or understand the implications of the licensing agreements that are inherent in most consumer social media and Web 2.0 tools? What if a student doesn’t want to agree to a license with a non-campus services, e.g., Second Life. Are they disadvantaging themselves or risking their grade by holding back?
- #27 The institutional LMS is probably integrated with the course registration system so that students who enroll in or add or drop the class are automatically added or removed from the appropriate course sections. Use of a 3 rd party tool may require the instructor to manage student accounts for functions like document sharing or chat rooms. Are you willing to do that manually for a small course? A large course? Will you even be made aware of a student who quietly adds a class part way into the semester so that you know to add them in a timely fashion?
- #28 Central IT is very careful about when it makes upgrades or changes to enterprise systems. Usually the cardinal rule is to not change anything mid-semester except to fix a grievous problem. Providers of consumer tools make changes and upgrades according to their product roadmaps and timetables. The look and feel and features and privacy settings of a non-campus tool could change mid-semester.
- #29 Official, campus enterprise systems, such as an LMS, have support structures built around them. In the event of a difficulty the Help Desk or the Learning Technology Center are probably readily via a number of venues. Finding assistance with consumer tools has both pros and cons. There may be lots of people on the Internet with who have knowledge in the tool, on the other hand maybe no one on the Internet can tell you why Skype won’t run wirelessly in the classroom you’re using.