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- Dr.Gowthaman MD DM CCM
AIIMS BHOPAL
VENTILATION IN OBSTRUCTIVE
DISEASE
OVERVIEW
• PHYSIOLOGY
• COPD PATHO- MECHANISMS
• VENTILATION GOALS
• NIV
• INVASIVE MV
• SETTINGS TO BE MADE / TROUBLE SHOOTING
• WEANING + EXTUBATION
• NEW EVIDENCE / STUDIES .
• 2 Major Factors :
1. Resistance
2. Compliance
• Resistance  Obstruction to airflow by conducting airways .
• WOB  Energy required to overcome the Resistance
• Resistance = P peak – P plat / Inspiratory flow ( L/sec ) .
• Compliance  V / P ( T c = L c + CW c ) .
DYNAMIC
COMPLIANCE
STATIC
COMPLIANCE
COPD – PATHOPHYSIO SEQUENCES
AIRWAY
OBSTRUCTION
RESISTANCE
EXP AIRFLOW
LIMITATION
DYNAMIC
HYPERINFLATION
WOB
PEEP int .
DYSPNEA
CO2 RETAINS
COPD
RVF IN COPD
CASE :
55 / Female , Known COPD has presented to us with
1. SOB aggravation – 3 days .
2. cough + expectoration .
O/E ,
GCS : E3V4M6 , Drowsy , arousable .
HR : 120 /min , BP: 160/100 MG Hg .
Spo2 : 88 % RR : 25/ min B/L reduced AE + , wheeze + .
ABG : PH- 7.27 Co2 - 75 mm Hg Po2- 60 Hco3 -30 .
WHAT TO DO NOW ????????
STRATEGY
• NIV – 1st Choice
• Assisted CMV ( If Intubated )
• Focus on PH than co2 .
• Optimise Sedation
• Avoid Muscle relaxants
• Plan Early Weaning & Extubate with NIV .
GOALS
• Reduce DHI , Tackle AUTO PEEP
• Improve Gas exchange
• Reduce WOB
• Reduce cardiac complications
• Improve patient ventilator synchrony
• Prevent Barotrauma
VENTILATOR is NOT THE TREATMENT
TREAT the CAUSE
VENTILATOR IS NOT THE TREATMENT
TREAT the CAUSE
2007 – 6 RCT , 9 non-RCT .
Pao2 in NON RCT
PaCo2 in NON RCT
Pao2 in RCT
PaCo2 in RCT
• Absolute
• Relative
• PH < 7.35
• CO2 > 45 – 80 ( NON
responders)
• RR > 23
• Post extubation
• DNI patients .
NIV IN COPD
INDICATIONS CONTRA INDICATIONS
HOW TO START ??????????
MODE :
1. CPAP ( Spontaeous )
2. BILEVEL ( IPAP/ EPAP )
3. S/T  Preferred
PROVIDER :
BIPAP vs VENTILATOR
BIPAP MACHINES
SINGLE TUBING IN BIPAP
WHAT ALL TO OPTIMISE ?????
• Minimise Mask Leak
• Avoid HEAD FLEXION
• Avoid Asynchrony
Trouble shoot :
1. Leak
2. IPAP, EPAP , Ti , Trigger sensitivity .
.
CAN I TROUBLE SHOOT …..?
1. Humidification in NIV ??
HME : WOB , Dead space , R aw
2. Sedation in NIV ???
Anxiolysis
IS SHE FAILING NIV TRIAL …?
HACOR score
> 5 in one hour of NIV
NIV failing
CASE CONTINUED …..
After a couple of hours , patient GCS -8 , Co2 : 90 , Spo2 85 % ,
HR -125 , BP : 90/60 mm Hg PH 7.15 , RR -30
What to do ??????????
INTUBATE / Medications / Vasopressors .
INDICATIONS TO INTUBATE :
MAJOR :
1.Respiratory arrest
2. LOC
3.Severe psychomotor agitation
4.Hemodynamic instability
MINOR :
1. RR > 35 /min .
2. Ph < 7.25 , P/F < 200 .
3. Decreasing GCS
WHAT TO KEEP IN MIND BEFORE INTUBATING A
COPD PATIENT ????
• Volume status
• Ketamine / Propofol / Etomidate F/B NMB
• Shock Worsening  Disconnect ventilator and MANUALY
SQUEEZE the thoracic cage ( less evidence )
INITIATION OF VENTILATOR …
• 3 FACTORS :
1. MV  MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR .
2. Flow .
3. I:E ratio , RR .
TO TARGET :
1. AUTO peep / DHI .
2. PH ( not Pco2 ) .
SETTINGS TO START WITH …
HOW TO REDUCE DHI / AUTO – PEEP ???
1. Optimum sedation & Analgesia + Medications .
2. Reduce Ventilatory demand & adequate MV ( Vt and Low RR )
3. Prolonged Exp. time .
4. High Inspiratory Flow rate .
5. Extrinsic peep ( Controversial )
6. Adjust Trigger sensitivity .
HOW DOES PATIENT TRIES ON HIS OWN ???
CONCEPT OF EPP
WHAT ABOUT SETTING THE PEEP IN COPD ???
•
60 -80 % E-PEEP …
WATERFALL EFFECT ???
AUTO PEEP 12
• SHALL I DO THE SAME with Asthma patients ???
NO  But Why ?????
I WONT APPLY E-PEEP ( FIXED OBSTRUCTION)
HOW TO SEE I - PEEP ???
F V LOOP :
WHEN SHALL I START WEANING ???
• CNS : GCS - 15
• Underlying cause is treated .
• CVS : Hemodynamically stable
• NO organ failure
• RS : RSBI < 105 , ABG – N , Compliance N .
• RENAL : Electrolytes-N , Equi / Neg balance .
YES
MV
Hemodynamic stable
P/F > 200
PEEP <6
N Sensorium , Good cough reflex , Swallowing + , Cuff leak
RSBI
SAT/ SBT
30 -120 min
RR > 35
SPO2 < 90 %
HR > 140 , BP
Anxiety
Sweating
EXTUBATION
> 105
NO
< 105
WHICH WEANING MODE SHOULD I USE ????
• PSV
• ASV / PAV .
• NAVA
• Extubation F/B NIV
WHAT ALL TO SET ???
• PS : Adequate enough . Insp. FLOW  High
• TRIGGER : Prefer Flow ( High sensitivity , prevent auto triggering )
• RISE Time / Slope : Prefer Steep Slope
• CYCLING : Higher the Exp Trigger  Lesser the “ DELAYED
CYCLING“ SYNCHRONY .
CAN I WEAN HER SUCCESFULLY ???
Yes – But How ??
TIPS :
1. Careful Suction .
2. SAT , SBT .
3. Avoid NM Blockers / Excess sedation .
4. Avoid drugs causing Broncho constriction .
NAVA
ANY RECENT NEW EVIDENCE IN-LANE ….?????
2020 – 6 RCT , 2 COHORT
HFNC VS NIV IN COPD
JUNE 2020
July 2020
TAKE THIS HOME ….
• Treat the UNDERLYING CAUSE  Ventilator is not the
treatment .
• Give a try / Prefer NIV than IMV .
• Focus on MV, insp Flow , I;E ratio , Low RR .
• Target DHI , AUTO-peep reduction .
• Target PH and not Co2 .
• External peep  Individualize ( Controversial . . . .)
• Start EARLY SAT/SBT .
• Extubate + NIV
THANK YOU ALL !!!
For your patient listening . . .

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Ventilation Strategy in obstructive Lung disease

  • 1. - Dr.Gowthaman MD DM CCM AIIMS BHOPAL VENTILATION IN OBSTRUCTIVE DISEASE
  • 2. OVERVIEW • PHYSIOLOGY • COPD PATHO- MECHANISMS • VENTILATION GOALS • NIV • INVASIVE MV • SETTINGS TO BE MADE / TROUBLE SHOOTING • WEANING + EXTUBATION • NEW EVIDENCE / STUDIES .
  • 3. • 2 Major Factors : 1. Resistance 2. Compliance • Resistance  Obstruction to airflow by conducting airways . • WOB  Energy required to overcome the Resistance • Resistance = P peak – P plat / Inspiratory flow ( L/sec ) . • Compliance  V / P ( T c = L c + CW c ) .
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  • 12. CASE : 55 / Female , Known COPD has presented to us with 1. SOB aggravation – 3 days . 2. cough + expectoration . O/E , GCS : E3V4M6 , Drowsy , arousable . HR : 120 /min , BP: 160/100 MG Hg . Spo2 : 88 % RR : 25/ min B/L reduced AE + , wheeze + . ABG : PH- 7.27 Co2 - 75 mm Hg Po2- 60 Hco3 -30 . WHAT TO DO NOW ????????
  • 13. STRATEGY • NIV – 1st Choice • Assisted CMV ( If Intubated ) • Focus on PH than co2 . • Optimise Sedation • Avoid Muscle relaxants • Plan Early Weaning & Extubate with NIV .
  • 14. GOALS • Reduce DHI , Tackle AUTO PEEP • Improve Gas exchange • Reduce WOB • Reduce cardiac complications • Improve patient ventilator synchrony • Prevent Barotrauma
  • 15. VENTILATOR is NOT THE TREATMENT TREAT the CAUSE VENTILATOR IS NOT THE TREATMENT TREAT the CAUSE
  • 16. 2007 – 6 RCT , 9 non-RCT . Pao2 in NON RCT PaCo2 in NON RCT
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  • 19. • Absolute • Relative • PH < 7.35 • CO2 > 45 – 80 ( NON responders) • RR > 23 • Post extubation • DNI patients . NIV IN COPD INDICATIONS CONTRA INDICATIONS
  • 20. HOW TO START ?????????? MODE : 1. CPAP ( Spontaeous ) 2. BILEVEL ( IPAP/ EPAP ) 3. S/T  Preferred PROVIDER : BIPAP vs VENTILATOR
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  • 27. WHAT ALL TO OPTIMISE ????? • Minimise Mask Leak • Avoid HEAD FLEXION • Avoid Asynchrony Trouble shoot : 1. Leak 2. IPAP, EPAP , Ti , Trigger sensitivity . .
  • 28. CAN I TROUBLE SHOOT …..?
  • 29. 1. Humidification in NIV ?? HME : WOB , Dead space , R aw 2. Sedation in NIV ??? Anxiolysis
  • 30. IS SHE FAILING NIV TRIAL …? HACOR score > 5 in one hour of NIV NIV failing
  • 31. CASE CONTINUED ….. After a couple of hours , patient GCS -8 , Co2 : 90 , Spo2 85 % , HR -125 , BP : 90/60 mm Hg PH 7.15 , RR -30 What to do ?????????? INTUBATE / Medications / Vasopressors .
  • 32. INDICATIONS TO INTUBATE : MAJOR : 1.Respiratory arrest 2. LOC 3.Severe psychomotor agitation 4.Hemodynamic instability MINOR : 1. RR > 35 /min . 2. Ph < 7.25 , P/F < 200 . 3. Decreasing GCS
  • 33. WHAT TO KEEP IN MIND BEFORE INTUBATING A COPD PATIENT ???? • Volume status • Ketamine / Propofol / Etomidate F/B NMB • Shock Worsening  Disconnect ventilator and MANUALY SQUEEZE the thoracic cage ( less evidence )
  • 34. INITIATION OF VENTILATOR … • 3 FACTORS : 1. MV  MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR . 2. Flow . 3. I:E ratio , RR . TO TARGET : 1. AUTO peep / DHI . 2. PH ( not Pco2 ) .
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  • 36. SETTINGS TO START WITH …
  • 37. HOW TO REDUCE DHI / AUTO – PEEP ??? 1. Optimum sedation & Analgesia + Medications . 2. Reduce Ventilatory demand & adequate MV ( Vt and Low RR ) 3. Prolonged Exp. time . 4. High Inspiratory Flow rate . 5. Extrinsic peep ( Controversial ) 6. Adjust Trigger sensitivity .
  • 38. HOW DOES PATIENT TRIES ON HIS OWN ??? CONCEPT OF EPP
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  • 40. WHAT ABOUT SETTING THE PEEP IN COPD ??? •
  • 41. 60 -80 % E-PEEP …
  • 44. • SHALL I DO THE SAME with Asthma patients ??? NO  But Why ????? I WONT APPLY E-PEEP ( FIXED OBSTRUCTION)
  • 45. HOW TO SEE I - PEEP ???
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  • 47. WHEN SHALL I START WEANING ??? • CNS : GCS - 15 • Underlying cause is treated . • CVS : Hemodynamically stable • NO organ failure • RS : RSBI < 105 , ABG – N , Compliance N . • RENAL : Electrolytes-N , Equi / Neg balance .
  • 48. YES MV Hemodynamic stable P/F > 200 PEEP <6 N Sensorium , Good cough reflex , Swallowing + , Cuff leak RSBI SAT/ SBT 30 -120 min RR > 35 SPO2 < 90 % HR > 140 , BP Anxiety Sweating EXTUBATION > 105 NO < 105
  • 49. WHICH WEANING MODE SHOULD I USE ???? • PSV • ASV / PAV . • NAVA • Extubation F/B NIV
  • 50. WHAT ALL TO SET ??? • PS : Adequate enough . Insp. FLOW  High • TRIGGER : Prefer Flow ( High sensitivity , prevent auto triggering ) • RISE Time / Slope : Prefer Steep Slope • CYCLING : Higher the Exp Trigger  Lesser the “ DELAYED CYCLING“ SYNCHRONY .
  • 51. CAN I WEAN HER SUCCESFULLY ??? Yes – But How ?? TIPS : 1. Careful Suction . 2. SAT , SBT . 3. Avoid NM Blockers / Excess sedation . 4. Avoid drugs causing Broncho constriction .
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  • 53. ANY RECENT NEW EVIDENCE IN-LANE ….????? 2020 – 6 RCT , 2 COHORT
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  • 55. HFNC VS NIV IN COPD JUNE 2020
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  • 58. TAKE THIS HOME …. • Treat the UNDERLYING CAUSE  Ventilator is not the treatment . • Give a try / Prefer NIV than IMV . • Focus on MV, insp Flow , I;E ratio , Low RR . • Target DHI , AUTO-peep reduction . • Target PH and not Co2 . • External peep  Individualize ( Controversial . . . .) • Start EARLY SAT/SBT . • Extubate + NIV
  • 59. THANK YOU ALL !!! For your patient listening . . .