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Class 2: Rapport




           Don Rabon
Expert Investigator, Author, Instructor
         dwrabon@msn.com
Introduction
        Don Rabon

        Don Rabon, CFE, author, speaker, instructor and former investigative
        director, has more than 34 years of experience conducting training in
        interviewing techniques, detecting deception and investigative disclosure
        analysis. Rabon is the author of many books, including Interviewing and
        Interrogation 2nd Edition and Fraud Related Interviewing. Rabon is
        retired from the North Carolina Justice Academy, North Carolina
        Department of Justice, where he served as Deputy Director.


        Joe Gerard

        Joe Gerard is the VP of Sales & Marketing at i-Sight, a leading provider
        of web-based case management software for corporate investigations.
        He’s worked with companies like Dell, Coke, Allstate, BP and more than
        100 others to implement improved investigative processes that leverage
        best practices and case management.
Investigative Interviewing




          Class 2: Rapport
“I became insane, with
long intervals of
horrible sanity”

Edgar Allan Poe
Rapport

              By way of context

  Logic
                                  Aristotle

  Emotion


  Character
Character


     The most critical attribute!


        “Through Sound”
Purpose


    Enhance the success rate in gaining a
        positive interview outcome


    Endeavor to minimize the liability to the
         interviewer / organization
Level of Contention


                                   Recant
Regret Factor
                                 Challenge


                  Effective Interviewing
                  Dynamics that are
                  below the line
WHAT ?

         ANSWER
Rapport Defined


  “_______________________
  _______________________
  _______________________
  ______________”
HOW ?

        ANSWER
Methodology for Developing Rapport


     1.               5.

     2.               6.

     3.               7.

     4.               8.
…heightened attention leading to
increased suggestibility.


   The suggestion being, move
   from the unwilling chair to the
   willing chair.
The three benefits are:


    Trust
          Help

               Understanding
How it is developed?


     Confirmation ?

     Formula for development

     Verification

     Three options
This brings us up to:

     January 19, 1809 – October 7, 1849
His Work influenced literature in the U.S and
around the world
Specialized Field: Cosmology
Specialized Field: Cryptography
Works still have influence
1845
'When I wish to find out how wise, or how stupid, or how
good, or how wicked is any one, or what are his thoughts at
the moment, I fashion the expression of my face, as
accurately as possible, in accordance with the expression of
his, and then wait to see what thoughts or sentiments arise in
my mind or heart, as if to match or correspond with the
expression.'
'When I wish to find out how wise, or how stupid, or how
good, or how wicked is any one, or what are his thoughts at
the moment, I fashion the expression of my face, as
accurately as possible, in accordance with the
expression of his, and then wait to see what thoughts or
sentiments arise in my mind or heart, as if to match or
correspond with the expression.'
Non-verbal mirroring
Verbal Mirroring
The mind as a computer
Five sensory channels

                        All that we ever
           Seeing       learned we:

           Hearing

           Feeling

           Taste

           Smell
Five sensory channels

                        But when others
           Seeing       communicate with
                        us:
           Hearing

           Feeling

           Taste

           Smell
Five sensory channels


           Seeing

           Hearing

           Feeling

           Taste

           Smell
Three primary sensory channels


              See
              Hear

             Feeling
Dominant sensory channel



         Everyone has one!
Three primary sensory channels



              Visual (1)

             Auditory (2)

             Feeling (3)
Predicates for the
representational systems
Seeing

 Appear     Scan
 Clear      Scope
 Cockeyed   Tint
 Colors     Vague
 Focus      Watch
 Glance     Blind to
 Look       Seeing Red
 Neat       Green with Envy
Hearing

   Audible   Prattle
   Babble    Quiet
   Buzz      Silence
   Discord   Shriek
   Echo      Squawk
   Grumble   Stammer
   Harmony   Give a Hoot
Feeling

   Bounce     Poke
   Feel       Tender
   Grasp      Touch
   Handle     Beside yourself
   Kiss       Breakdown
   Lukewarm   Iron Out
   Press      Raising Hell
Sensory linguistic matching for rapport


•   I see what you are trying to show me.

•   I hear exactly what you are saying.

•   I have a grasp for how rough it must
    have been.
We knew what worked.

We didn’t know why it worked.
Only knowing “what” limits the interviewer to
              only being rote.


  Knowing “why” allows the interviewer to
           become a performer.
The answer is found in the second portion of
what the young man had to say:
'When I wish to find out how wise, or how stupid, or how
good, or how wicked is any one, or what are his thoughts at
the moment, I fashion the expression of my face, as
accurately as possible, in accordance with the expression of
his, and then wait to see what thoughts or sentiments arise
in my mind or heart, as if to match or correspond with the
expression.'
Mirror Neurons
First, what is a neuron?

A neuron is an
electrically excitable
cell that processes
and transmits
information by
electrical and
chemical signaling.

Neurons are the core
components of the
nervous system.
"An adult human
brain has more than
100 billion
neurons"
Mirror neurons:

 A mirror neuron is a     Thus, the neuron
 neuron that fires both   "mirrors" the
 when an animal acts      behavior of the other,
 and when the animal      as though the
 sees or hears the        observer or listener
 same action              were itself acting.
 performed by
 another.
Mirror neurons were
first described in
1992. Some
scientists consider
this to be one of the
most important
recent discoveries in
neuroscience.
Examples from everyday
These mirror neurons are important for understanding
the actions of other people.



Mirror systems simulate observed actions, and thus
contribute to theory of mind skills.
Theory of Mind ( ToM )

 Having a theory of         It enables one
 mind allows one           (interviewer) to
 (interviewer) to          understand that
 attribute thoughts,       mental states can be
 desires, and              the cause of—and
 intentions to others,     thus be used to
 to predict or explain     explain and predict—
 their actions, and to     others’ behavior.
 posit their intentions.
Alterity:

A term meaning "otherness", strictly being in the     sense
of the other. (Latin alter).

It implies the ability to distinguish between self and not-
self, and consequently to assume the existence of an
alternative viewpoint.
Activate the mirror neurons of the
interviewee




                Rapport !
2 tuning forks in the key of C
Three (3) very powerful mirror neuron
activating options

• Story
• Parable
• Suggestion
Questions

        If you have any questions, please submit them now.



        Thank you for taking the time to attend today’s webinar.



 If you have any questions about the information covered in the webinar,
                              please contact:

                    Joe Gerard              Don Rabon
               jgerard@i-sight.com      dwrabon@msn.com

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Class 2 - Building Rapport

  • 1. Class 2: Rapport Don Rabon Expert Investigator, Author, Instructor dwrabon@msn.com
  • 2. Introduction Don Rabon Don Rabon, CFE, author, speaker, instructor and former investigative director, has more than 34 years of experience conducting training in interviewing techniques, detecting deception and investigative disclosure analysis. Rabon is the author of many books, including Interviewing and Interrogation 2nd Edition and Fraud Related Interviewing. Rabon is retired from the North Carolina Justice Academy, North Carolina Department of Justice, where he served as Deputy Director. Joe Gerard Joe Gerard is the VP of Sales & Marketing at i-Sight, a leading provider of web-based case management software for corporate investigations. He’s worked with companies like Dell, Coke, Allstate, BP and more than 100 others to implement improved investigative processes that leverage best practices and case management.
  • 3. Investigative Interviewing Class 2: Rapport
  • 4. “I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity” Edgar Allan Poe
  • 5. Rapport By way of context Logic Aristotle Emotion Character
  • 6. Character The most critical attribute! “Through Sound”
  • 7. Purpose Enhance the success rate in gaining a positive interview outcome Endeavor to minimize the liability to the interviewer / organization
  • 8. Level of Contention Recant Regret Factor Challenge Effective Interviewing Dynamics that are below the line
  • 9. WHAT ? ANSWER
  • 10. Rapport Defined “_______________________ _______________________ _______________________ ______________”
  • 11. HOW ? ANSWER
  • 12. Methodology for Developing Rapport 1. 5. 2. 6. 3. 7. 4. 8.
  • 13. …heightened attention leading to increased suggestibility. The suggestion being, move from the unwilling chair to the willing chair.
  • 14. The three benefits are:  Trust  Help  Understanding
  • 15. How it is developed? Confirmation ? Formula for development Verification Three options
  • 16. This brings us up to: January 19, 1809 – October 7, 1849
  • 17. His Work influenced literature in the U.S and around the world
  • 20. Works still have influence
  • 21. 1845
  • 22. 'When I wish to find out how wise, or how stupid, or how good, or how wicked is any one, or what are his thoughts at the moment, I fashion the expression of my face, as accurately as possible, in accordance with the expression of his, and then wait to see what thoughts or sentiments arise in my mind or heart, as if to match or correspond with the expression.'
  • 23. 'When I wish to find out how wise, or how stupid, or how good, or how wicked is any one, or what are his thoughts at the moment, I fashion the expression of my face, as accurately as possible, in accordance with the expression of his, and then wait to see what thoughts or sentiments arise in my mind or heart, as if to match or correspond with the expression.'
  • 26. The mind as a computer
  • 27. Five sensory channels All that we ever Seeing learned we: Hearing Feeling Taste Smell
  • 28. Five sensory channels But when others Seeing communicate with us: Hearing Feeling Taste Smell
  • 29. Five sensory channels Seeing Hearing Feeling Taste Smell
  • 30. Three primary sensory channels See Hear Feeling
  • 31. Dominant sensory channel Everyone has one!
  • 32. Three primary sensory channels Visual (1) Auditory (2) Feeling (3)
  • 34. Seeing Appear Scan Clear Scope Cockeyed Tint Colors Vague Focus Watch Glance Blind to Look Seeing Red Neat Green with Envy
  • 35. Hearing Audible Prattle Babble Quiet Buzz Silence Discord Shriek Echo Squawk Grumble Stammer Harmony Give a Hoot
  • 36. Feeling Bounce Poke Feel Tender Grasp Touch Handle Beside yourself Kiss Breakdown Lukewarm Iron Out Press Raising Hell
  • 37. Sensory linguistic matching for rapport • I see what you are trying to show me. • I hear exactly what you are saying. • I have a grasp for how rough it must have been.
  • 38. We knew what worked. We didn’t know why it worked.
  • 39. Only knowing “what” limits the interviewer to only being rote. Knowing “why” allows the interviewer to become a performer.
  • 40. The answer is found in the second portion of what the young man had to say:
  • 41. 'When I wish to find out how wise, or how stupid, or how good, or how wicked is any one, or what are his thoughts at the moment, I fashion the expression of my face, as accurately as possible, in accordance with the expression of his, and then wait to see what thoughts or sentiments arise in my mind or heart, as if to match or correspond with the expression.'
  • 43. First, what is a neuron? A neuron is an electrically excitable cell that processes and transmits information by electrical and chemical signaling. Neurons are the core components of the nervous system.
  • 44. "An adult human brain has more than 100 billion neurons"
  • 45. Mirror neurons: A mirror neuron is a Thus, the neuron neuron that fires both "mirrors" the when an animal acts behavior of the other, and when the animal as though the sees or hears the observer or listener same action were itself acting. performed by another.
  • 46. Mirror neurons were first described in 1992. Some scientists consider this to be one of the most important recent discoveries in neuroscience.
  • 48. These mirror neurons are important for understanding the actions of other people. Mirror systems simulate observed actions, and thus contribute to theory of mind skills.
  • 49. Theory of Mind ( ToM ) Having a theory of It enables one mind allows one (interviewer) to (interviewer) to understand that attribute thoughts, mental states can be desires, and the cause of—and intentions to others, thus be used to to predict or explain explain and predict— their actions, and to others’ behavior. posit their intentions.
  • 50. Alterity: A term meaning "otherness", strictly being in the sense of the other. (Latin alter). It implies the ability to distinguish between self and not- self, and consequently to assume the existence of an alternative viewpoint.
  • 51.
  • 52. Activate the mirror neurons of the interviewee Rapport !
  • 53. 2 tuning forks in the key of C
  • 54.
  • 55. Three (3) very powerful mirror neuron activating options • Story • Parable • Suggestion
  • 56. Questions If you have any questions, please submit them now. Thank you for taking the time to attend today’s webinar. If you have any questions about the information covered in the webinar, please contact: Joe Gerard Don Rabon jgerard@i-sight.com dwrabon@msn.com