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A	
  Presenta*on	
  from	
  the	
  NewMR	
  “Social	
  Media	
  
Research”	
  Event	
  
9	
  October,	
  2012	
  
All	
  copyright	
  owned	
  by	
  The	
  Future	
  Place	
  and	
  the	
  presenters	
  of	
  the	
  material	
  
For	
  more	
  informa:on	
  about	
  NewMR	
  events	
  visit	
  newmr.org	
  
A	
  Review	
  of	
  What	
  Can	
  and	
  Can’t	
  be	
  Learned	
  by	
  Passive	
  
Research	
  Tecniques	
  
	
  
Ray	
  Poynter,	
  Vision	
  Cri0cal	
  University 	
   	
  	
  
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
The	
  limits	
  of	
  listening	
  
	
  
A	
  review	
  of	
  what	
  can	
  and	
  can’t	
  be	
  
learned	
  by	
  passive	
  research	
  techniques	
  
Ray	
  Poynter	
  
Director	
  Vision	
  Cri:cal	
  University	
  
@	
  Vision	
  Cri:cal	
  
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Social Media Listening?
Passive collection of naturally occurring
comments made in social media
Including
– Social networks
– Microblogging
– Blogging
– User generated media (YouTube/Flicker)
– Comments and Reviews
– Public actions, e.g. Foursquare
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
What is collected?
That which is said in social media
In locations that can legitimately be queried
Things	
  that	
  are	
  not	
  said,	
  can’t	
  be	
  collected	
  
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
What is said on Social Media?
1.  Things that have happened
2.  Things people know they
would like to happen
3.  Personal statements and
messages
4.  That which is ‘sayable’
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Things that have happened
“how	
  *mes	
  have	
  changed:	
  
Colleague	
  walking	
  around	
  in	
  
office	
  asking	
  if	
  anyone	
  has	
  a	
  
#Nokia	
  charger!	
  could	
  u	
  imagine	
  
this	
  3	
  years	
  ago?”	
  
“Watching	
  the	
  new	
  CG	
  2012	
  
Nickelodeon	
  version	
  of	
  Teenage	
  
Mutant	
  Ninja	
  Turtles.	
  It's	
  
certainly	
  not	
  like	
  how	
  I	
  
remember.	
  But	
  I'm	
  not	
  the	
  
target”	
  
“A	
  man	
  dressed	
  as	
  an	
  astronaut	
  
gave	
  me	
  a	
  Mars	
  bar	
  on	
  King	
  
Street.”	
  
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
What people know they want
"i	
  need	
  an	
  iphone	
  with	
  bbm	
  
and	
  a	
  nokia	
  ba[ery,	
  would	
  
be	
  the	
  perfect	
  phone"	
  
“I	
  wanna	
  get	
  a	
  job	
  at	
  
starbucks,	
  learn	
  how	
  to	
  
make	
  all	
  of	
  the	
  drinks,	
  then	
  
quit.”	
  
it's	
  2012	
  why	
  doesn't	
  starbucks	
  
deliver	
  yet	
  
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Personal Statements & Messages
Anyone	
  else	
  remember	
  how	
  
Nickleodeon's	
  World	
  Wide	
  
Day	
  of	
  Play	
  was	
  the	
  worst	
  
day	
  of	
  the	
  year	
  when	
  we	
  
were	
  younger?	
  I	
  do	
  
#An*social	
  
I	
  don't	
  understand	
  why	
  there's	
  a	
  
caramel	
  mars	
  bar	
  when	
  I	
  swear	
  
normal	
  mars	
  bars	
  have	
  caramel	
  
in?!	
  
So	
  good	
  seeing	
  everyone	
  
tonight!	
  I	
  love	
  you	
  allll!	
  True	
  
friends	
  forever	
  see	
  you	
  soon!
❤❤❤	
  
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Sayable implies unsayable
Laws, customs, and system limits
Things that are left unsaid
Things we do not have words for
Things we do not admit to ourselves
We	
  tend	
  to	
  say	
  what	
  others	
  say	
  on	
  topics	
  
that	
  others	
  talk	
  about	
  
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Who’s speaking on Social Media?
In the English speaking developed
economies
Most of Facebook hard to search ethically
About 15% of the population use Twitter
Less than 10% comment or upload
elsewhere in SM
About 25% contribute to SM discourse
– Perhaps 5% doing 80%
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Salience
Some brands are more talked about than
others
Some topics more talked about than others
Some formats/executions more talked about
than others
Apple	
  iPhone	
  5	
  
launch	
  
campaign	
  
3	
  for	
  2	
  deal	
  
on	
  
Ashbourne	
  
water,	
  POS	
  
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Social Media Successes
ü  Some election polling
ü  Campaign monitoring/management
ü  Social monitoring/management
ü  Fault spotting
ü  Ideation
ü  Some customer satisfaction
ü  Competitive intelligence
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Why SM works, when it works?
On some topics, views are homogenous
On some topics, the rank order of
preferences is homogenous
On some topics, the changes in views
over time are homogenous
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Listening Challenges
v  Incomplete coverage
v  Changing bases
v  Where are the comments coming from?
v  The demographics/characteristics of
people making comments
v  People, organisations, and bots
v  Gaming the system
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Rumsfeld adapted to SM
There are known knowns – things
people have experienced
There are known unknowns – things
people know they want
But there are also unknown unknowns
– things people don’t know they want,
don’t know are possible, and can’t
envisage
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Esomar global
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
SM Potential
Category 	
  ESOMAR 	
  SM? 	
  Net% 	
  	
  
Market	
  Measurement 	
  18% 	
  1% 	
  0.2% 	
  	
  
Media	
  Audience/Research 	
  15% 	
  1% 	
  0.2% 	
  	
  
Stakeholder	
  Measurement,	
  incl.	
  CRM 	
  9% 	
  2% 	
  0.2% 	
  	
  
New	
  Product/Service	
  Development 	
  7% 	
  3% 	
  0.2% 	
  	
  
Adver:sing/Brand	
  Tracking	
   	
  7% 	
  25% 	
  1.8% 	
  	
  
Usage	
  &	
  AXtude	
  Studies 	
  6% 	
  10% 	
  0.6% 	
  	
  
Market	
  Modelling 	
  4% 	
  1% 	
  0.0% 	
  	
  
Opinion	
  Research/Polling 	
  3% 	
  3% 	
  0.1% 	
  	
  
Adver:sing	
  Pre-­‐Tes:ng 	
  3% 	
  3% 	
  0.1% 	
  	
  
Other	
  Qualita:ve	
  Studies 	
  16% 	
  10% 	
  1.6% 	
  	
  
Other	
  B2B	
  Studies 	
  2% 	
  5% 	
  0.1% 	
  	
  
Other	
  Omnibus/Shared	
  Cost 	
  2% 	
  1% 	
  0.0% 	
  	
  
Other 	
  8% 	
  20% 	
  1.6% 	
  	
  
Mid-­‐term	
  Poten*al	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
   	
   	
   	
  6.6% 	
  	
  
Market	
  Size	
  	
  	
  	
   	
  $33Billion 	
  SM	
  	
   	
  $2Billion
	
  	
  
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
The Future?
Legislation may restrict what we can
listen to
Social media could become more/less
popular
– People may become more/less open
Tracking people & linking to communities
may make SM feedback richer
Listening may morph into ‘talking with’
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
4 Concluding Thoughts
1.  If people are talking about you, you need
to listen!
2.  SM can be a great new source
3.  In a few cases, SM listening will be a
replacement method
4.  SM’s main problems relate to probing and
to quantitative predictions
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Thank	
  you	
  
Ray	
  Poynter	
  
Director	
  Vision	
  Cri:cal	
  University	
  
@	
  Vision	
  Cri:cal	
  
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Q	
  &	
  A	
  
Sue York
NewMR
Ray Poynter
Vision Critical University
Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK
NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1
Ray	
  Poynter	
  
Vision	
  Cri*cal	
  University	
  
@Vision	
  Cri*cal	
  
	
  
www.visioncri*caluniversity.com	
  
ray.poynter@visioncri*cal.com	
  
@RayPoynter	
  
www.linkedin.com/in/raypoynter	
  
	
  
	
  
A	
  Presenta*on	
  from	
  the	
  NewMR	
  “Social	
  Media	
  
Research”	
  Event	
  
9	
  October,	
  2012	
  
All	
  copyright	
  owned	
  by	
  The	
  Future	
  Place	
  and	
  the	
  presenters	
  of	
  the	
  material	
  
For	
  more	
  informa:on	
  about	
  NewMR	
  events	
  visit	
  newmr.org	
  
A	
  Review	
  of	
  What	
  Can	
  and	
  Can’t	
  be	
  Learned	
  by	
  Passive	
  
Research	
  Tecniques	
  
	
  
Ray	
  Poynter,	
  Vision	
  Cri0cal	
  University 	
   	
  	
  

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Ray Poynter on Limits of Social Media Listening

  • 1. A  Presenta*on  from  the  NewMR  “Social  Media   Research”  Event   9  October,  2012   All  copyright  owned  by  The  Future  Place  and  the  presenters  of  the  material   For  more  informa:on  about  NewMR  events  visit  newmr.org   A  Review  of  What  Can  and  Can’t  be  Learned  by  Passive   Research  Tecniques     Ray  Poynter,  Vision  Cri0cal  University      
  • 2. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 The  limits  of  listening     A  review  of  what  can  and  can’t  be   learned  by  passive  research  techniques   Ray  Poynter   Director  Vision  Cri:cal  University   @  Vision  Cri:cal  
  • 3. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Social Media Listening? Passive collection of naturally occurring comments made in social media Including – Social networks – Microblogging – Blogging – User generated media (YouTube/Flicker) – Comments and Reviews – Public actions, e.g. Foursquare
  • 4. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 What is collected? That which is said in social media In locations that can legitimately be queried Things  that  are  not  said,  can’t  be  collected  
  • 5. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 What is said on Social Media? 1.  Things that have happened 2.  Things people know they would like to happen 3.  Personal statements and messages 4.  That which is ‘sayable’
  • 6. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Things that have happened “how  *mes  have  changed:   Colleague  walking  around  in   office  asking  if  anyone  has  a   #Nokia  charger!  could  u  imagine   this  3  years  ago?”   “Watching  the  new  CG  2012   Nickelodeon  version  of  Teenage   Mutant  Ninja  Turtles.  It's   certainly  not  like  how  I   remember.  But  I'm  not  the   target”   “A  man  dressed  as  an  astronaut   gave  me  a  Mars  bar  on  King   Street.”  
  • 7. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 What people know they want "i  need  an  iphone  with  bbm   and  a  nokia  ba[ery,  would   be  the  perfect  phone"   “I  wanna  get  a  job  at   starbucks,  learn  how  to   make  all  of  the  drinks,  then   quit.”   it's  2012  why  doesn't  starbucks   deliver  yet  
  • 8. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Personal Statements & Messages Anyone  else  remember  how   Nickleodeon's  World  Wide   Day  of  Play  was  the  worst   day  of  the  year  when  we   were  younger?  I  do   #An*social   I  don't  understand  why  there's  a   caramel  mars  bar  when  I  swear   normal  mars  bars  have  caramel   in?!   So  good  seeing  everyone   tonight!  I  love  you  allll!  True   friends  forever  see  you  soon! ❤❤❤  
  • 9. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Sayable implies unsayable Laws, customs, and system limits Things that are left unsaid Things we do not have words for Things we do not admit to ourselves We  tend  to  say  what  others  say  on  topics   that  others  talk  about  
  • 10. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Who’s speaking on Social Media? In the English speaking developed economies Most of Facebook hard to search ethically About 15% of the population use Twitter Less than 10% comment or upload elsewhere in SM About 25% contribute to SM discourse – Perhaps 5% doing 80%
  • 11. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Salience Some brands are more talked about than others Some topics more talked about than others Some formats/executions more talked about than others Apple  iPhone  5   launch   campaign   3  for  2  deal   on   Ashbourne   water,  POS  
  • 12. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Social Media Successes ü  Some election polling ü  Campaign monitoring/management ü  Social monitoring/management ü  Fault spotting ü  Ideation ü  Some customer satisfaction ü  Competitive intelligence
  • 13. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Why SM works, when it works? On some topics, views are homogenous On some topics, the rank order of preferences is homogenous On some topics, the changes in views over time are homogenous
  • 14. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Listening Challenges v  Incomplete coverage v  Changing bases v  Where are the comments coming from? v  The demographics/characteristics of people making comments v  People, organisations, and bots v  Gaming the system
  • 15. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Rumsfeld adapted to SM There are known knowns – things people have experienced There are known unknowns – things people know they want But there are also unknown unknowns – things people don’t know they want, don’t know are possible, and can’t envisage
  • 16. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Esomar global
  • 17. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 SM Potential Category  ESOMAR  SM?  Net%     Market  Measurement  18%  1%  0.2%     Media  Audience/Research  15%  1%  0.2%     Stakeholder  Measurement,  incl.  CRM  9%  2%  0.2%     New  Product/Service  Development  7%  3%  0.2%     Adver:sing/Brand  Tracking    7%  25%  1.8%     Usage  &  AXtude  Studies  6%  10%  0.6%     Market  Modelling  4%  1%  0.0%     Opinion  Research/Polling  3%  3%  0.1%     Adver:sing  Pre-­‐Tes:ng  3%  3%  0.1%     Other  Qualita:ve  Studies  16%  10%  1.6%     Other  B2B  Studies  2%  5%  0.1%     Other  Omnibus/Shared  Cost  2%  1%  0.0%     Other  8%  20%  1.6%     Mid-­‐term  Poten*al                                  6.6%     Market  Size          $33Billion  SM      $2Billion    
  • 18. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 The Future? Legislation may restrict what we can listen to Social media could become more/less popular – People may become more/less open Tracking people & linking to communities may make SM feedback richer Listening may morph into ‘talking with’
  • 19. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 4 Concluding Thoughts 1.  If people are talking about you, you need to listen! 2.  SM can be a great new source 3.  In a few cases, SM listening will be a replacement method 4.  SM’s main problems relate to probing and to quantitative predictions
  • 20. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Thank  you   Ray  Poynter   Director  Vision  Cri:cal  University   @  Vision  Cri:cal  
  • 21. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Q  &  A   Sue York NewMR Ray Poynter Vision Critical University
  • 22. Speaker: Ray Poynter, Vision Critical University, UK NewMR Social Media Research Event, 9 October 2012, Session 1 Ray  Poynter   Vision  Cri*cal  University   @Vision  Cri*cal     www.visioncri*caluniversity.com   ray.poynter@visioncri*cal.com   @RayPoynter   www.linkedin.com/in/raypoynter      
  • 23. A  Presenta*on  from  the  NewMR  “Social  Media   Research”  Event   9  October,  2012   All  copyright  owned  by  The  Future  Place  and  the  presenters  of  the  material   For  more  informa:on  about  NewMR  events  visit  newmr.org   A  Review  of  What  Can  and  Can’t  be  Learned  by  Passive   Research  Tecniques     Ray  Poynter,  Vision  Cri0cal  University