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SHOCK 
A GUYTONIAN 
APPROACH 
2013 
Bucharest-SUUB
POISEUILLE’S LAW 
 I = ↑ / R (τhm’s law) 
 Q = (P1- P2) / R 
 CO = (MAP - PRA) / SVR 
 VR = (PMS - PRA) / RV
ARCHETYPAL REDUCTIONISTIC NEED OF A 
FUNCTIONAL VENOUS HEMODYNAMIC POLE 
Weber E. 1850
BASIC THEORETICAL IMPLICATIONS 
OF A HEMODYNAMIC VENOUS POLE 
 Small changes (as absolute values) in PRA, RV, 
PMS determine large changes in VR 
 Steady state - CO = VR ĺ CO (for constant 
dp/dt) depends on Pms (VR) and is adjusted 
(for variable dp/dt) through pump performance 
(inotropism,lusitropism,cronotropism) 
 ↑R’s physiology ĺ PMS / stressed blood 
volume + unstressed / RV
MEAN SYSTEMIC FILLING PRESSURE 
 Stopped flow ĺ mean arterial pressure Ļ and 
large venous vessels pressure Ĺ ĺ as these 
two come closer to each other ĺ PMS 
 PMS = VS / CMS 
 PMS ≠ MAP
BASIC BICOMPARTMENTAL MODEL OF 
Qr=5 
Cv 
Pv=2 
Pump 
Resistance 
Qh=5 
Pa=102 
Ca 
Qr=5 
Cv 
Pv=2 
Qh=0 
Pa=102 
Ca 
Qh=0 
Pa=7 
Ca Cv 
Pv=6 
Qh=1 
Pa=26 
Ca 
Qr =1 
MSFP 
Pump 
Resistance 
Pump Pump 
Resistance 
Resistance 
Cv 
Qr=0 
Pv=7 
• Pa-Pv=R∙Q 
• Pms=V/Cs 
• V=Va+Vv 
• Cs=Ca+Cv 
• Va=Pa∙Ca 
• Vv=Pv∙Cv 
• ΔPa=Pa-Pms=Vtr/Ca 
• ΔPv=Pms-Pv=Vtr/Cv 
• Cv/Ca=19 
0 
120 
7 
0 
2 
6 
Pv 
7 
26 
102 Pa 
Pa 
Pv 
0 
CO 
C O = 0 C O =1 CO=5 
Modified from Levy 2007
STRESSED / UNSTRESSED BLOOD 
VOLUME 
 V0 = blood volume needed to fill up the circulatory 
system just to the point where stress ( transmural 
pressure ) would be created 
 VS = blood volume that would begin to create stress ( 
transmural pressure ) if it were added up to V0 
Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
COMPLIANCE vs CAPACITANCE 
 Pms = VT - V0 / C ( ΔP= ΔV/C ) C = static, mechanical item, 
almost unadjustable 
 Pms = VT / Cp ( ΔP= VT / Cp ) Cp = dynamic, tone dependent - 
variable, sympathetically mediated item  VS►◄ V0 
 Pms is influenced by spontaneous (Δtemperature ) / therapeutic 
variation of Cp ( nitroglycerine ) ( VS ►◄ V0) or of VT 
 One easy example – vasopressors Ĺ VS by adjusting the 
capacitance (Ĺ Pms) of the reservoir compartment - splanchnic 
compartment ĺ Ĺ VR 
 VS ≈ 20-30 % (1,5 L) 
 C ≈ 0.187L∙mmHg-1 
 Pms ≈ 8-10 mmHg 
Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
COMPLIANCE vs CAPACITANCE 
Elastance=tgı=ΔP/ΔV 
Compliance=1/tgı=ΔV/ΔP=V2-V1 
=Vt-Vo=Vs/P 
Capacitance=Vt/P 
Modified from Jacobsohn 2013 
σ
Gelman’s
Gelman’s
Gelman’s
VENOUS RESISTANCE 
RV = 8ηl / πr4 
RV is influenced by the size of the venous 
circulation ĺ venous circ. time constant is 
determined by vascular volume / flux ( L∙min∙L-1 = 
min ) - (IJ = C∙R) 
Vasopressors could ĺ redistribute blood from one 
teritory to another ĺ from IJslow la IJfast ĺ Ļ RV si Ĺ 
VR 
Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
STARLING RESISTOR
VENOUS RETURN ON GRAPHS 
Starling 
Resistor 
Thoracic- 
Abdominal 
interface 
Pabd>Ppl 
Pleuro-vascular interface – PPVent. 
Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
VENOUS RETURN ON GRAPHS 
tg α = slope 
α
VASCULAR FUNCTION CURVES IN A 
BUNDLE 
Ȗ 
α ȕ α α 
Pms↑ 
Rv↓ 
Normal 
Rv↑ 
Pms↓ 
RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE 
VENOUS RETURN
FRANK STARLING CURVE 
0 
inotropism ↓ 
afterload↑ 
RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE 
CARDIAC OUTPUT
DIDACTICISM WITH A TASTE OF 
MATHEMATICAL COMPROMISE 
Y Y 
O X 
O X 
Y 
O 
X 
CO 
RAP ivasc 
Pms 
CO 
RAP tm 
CO 
RAP ? 
Pms 
Right shift in case of increasing Pextramural 
but with constant inotropism. 
RIGHT
TREATMENTS AND THEIR 
HEMODYNAMIC CONSEQUENCES 
A 
B 
C 
↓ Rv 
↑ Pms 
D 
↑Vt,↑Vs 
normal 
ȕ 
α α 
RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE 
CO / VR 
BLOOD vs CRISTALOID / COLOID 
0 
1 
2 
1 
2 
3 
Modified from 
Jacobsohn 2013
normal 
↑Rv+↑Pms(↑Vs) 
↑Rv 
A 
C 
B 
D 
RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE 
CO / VR 
0 
VASOPRESSORS 
ȕ α α 
1 
2 
3 
1 
2 
Modified from 
Jacobsohn 2013
RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE 
CO / VR 
0 
↓Rv 
↓Rv+↓Pms 
↓Vs 
normal 
C 
A 
B 
D 
α α ȕ 
INODILATORS 
1 
2 
1 
2 
3 
Modified from 
Jacobsohn 2013
↑Rv+↑Pms (↑Vs) 
normal 
↑Rv 
B 
A 
C 
D 
INOVASOPRESSORS 
0 RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE 
CO / VR 
α α ȕ 
1 
2 
3 
1 
2 
Modified from 
Jacobsohn 2013
HYPOVOLEMIC SHOCK 
Mixed hemodynamic impact: inotropism and capacitance 
Starting point sensibility ( SIRS – increasing incidence ) 
Lusitropism might get affected during prolonged illness 
MSFP is maintained through capacitive recruitment and 
interstitial shift
A 
B 
C 
3 
D 
E 
↓Rv 
normal 
fluid shift 
↓Pms (↓Vt) 
α α α ȕ 
RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE 
CO / VR 
0 
1 
2 
3 
1 
2 
4 
Modified from 
Jacobsohn 2013
CARDIOGENIC SHOCK 
Primary hemodynamic impact: inotropism 
SIRS as a negative prognostic factor – hyperdynamic phenotype 
( dynamic elastance PPV/SVV ↓ ) 
MSFP modulation is of secondary importance in favour of inotropic 
modulators 
Lusitropism has become a hallmark and requires therapeutic attitude 
Catecholaminergic spareness when possible ( levosimendan ?, 
omecamtiv mecarbil ?, istaroxime ?, metabolic modulation – HDI )
Rv↓and Pms ↓(Dtx/Mil) 
+ fluid shift+adm. 
Pms↑ through 
fluid shift+adm. 
normal 
A 
B 
C 
D 
E 
α ȕ α 
RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE 
CO / VR 
0 
1 
2 
3 
1 
2 
3 
4 
Modified from 
Jacobsohn 2013
SEPTIC SHOCK 
Most complex hemodynamic impact: cardiogenic as well as vascular 
Cardiogenic impact: inotropism,lusitropism 
Vascular impact: capacitance, SVR/Eadyn and the reflection coefficient 
(glycocalyx) 
variable hemodynamic MSFP dependent phenotype 
Hemorheological consequences opening new therapeutic targets (Kenyeres) 
Microvascular - macrohemodynamics dissociation 
Unveiling guytonian reductionism
RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE 
CO / VR 
A 
C 
B 
D 
E 
F 
Pms-N Rv-↓ 
normal 
Pms-↓ Rv-↓ 
Pms-↓ Rv-N 
0 
1 
2 
3 
4 
1 
2 
3 
4 
Modified from 
Jacobsohn 2013
OBSTRUCTIVE SHOCK 
TENSION PTX 
Vascular hemodynamic impact – Starling resistor at the pleural-vascular 
interface or at the pericardial-vascular/heart interface 
Secondary cardiac impact – RV afterload 
Therapeutics – typically mechanical
normal 
Plateau shift 
Rv↑ Pms↑(fluid,SS) 
plateau shift 
plateau shift 
Rv↑ 
afterload ↑ 
A 
A1 
B 
C 
D 
E 
F 
0 RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE 
CO / VR 
SHIFT PLATEAU 
Ppl 
α ȕ α 
1 
2 
3 
4 
1 
2 
3 
4 
Modified from 
Jacobsohn 2013
HEART LUNG INTERACTION 
in very few words 
Vascular plateau shift similar to obstructive shock 
Hemodynamic profile related to MSFP and the crossing point on the 
vascular-cardiac graph 
ESPVR dependent hemodynamic impact 
PVR dependent impact ( West zone profile ) 
Ecw ( IAP included ) relative to El dependent hemodynamic impact 
Prone position impact 
Lung-heart-kidney cross - talk 
Energy shift by lessening WOB
Rv↑ Pms↑ 
(fluid,SS) 
normal 
Rv↑ 
Rv↑ Pms↓ 
dehydration 
Right shift 
SHIFT PLATEAU 
Right shift ++ 
1 
2 
A 
B 
E 
C 
D 
F 
1 
2 
3 
4 
3 
0 Ppl+ Ppl++ RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE 
CO / VR 
α α ȕ α 
4 
Modified from 
Jacobsohn 2013
1959 
Ca 
V 
 
Ca Cv 
Ra 
Pms 
 
 
V 
 
Ca Cv 
Pms 
 
 
Ca 
C 
P 
 
Rv Ra 
D 
  
 
Heart 
Lung 
Rv 
Cv 
Ra Rv 
Ca Cv 
Pa 
Pra 
   
 
Va Vv 
Ca Cv 
Pms 
 
   
Ca Pa Cv Pv 
Ca Cv 
Pms 
 
 
Pv 
   
Pa Pv Ra D 
   
Pv RAP Rv D 
       
Ca (Pv Ra D) Cv (RAP Rv D) 
Ca Cv 
Pms 
 
 
RAP 
       
Ca (Pv Ra D) Cv (RAP Rv D) 
Pms RAP  
 
Ca Cv 
  
        
Ca (Pv RAP) Cv Rv D Ca Ra D 
Ca Cv 
Pms RAP 
 
  
        
Ca Rv D Cv Rv D Ca Ra D 
Ca Cv 
Pms RAP 
 
  
Rv C Ca Ra 
C 
Pms RAP D 
   
   
Ca 
C 
P 
 
Rv Ra 
D 
  

1959 
Ca 
C 
P 
 
Rv Ra 
D 
  
 
Cv 
Ra,Ca 
Rv 
VR 
ml/min 
%∙initial value 
50 100 150
1993 
Rc 
Ra 
LV RV 
Rv 
Rc 
Ca 
Ra 
Cv 
Rv 
Ca Cv 
Model parameters 
Ees mmHg/ml 
Vo ml 
Tes ms 
Τ ms 
Ra dyn∙s∙cm-5 
Rc dyn∙s∙cm-5 
Rv dyn∙s∙cm-5 
Rt dyn∙s∙cm-5 
Ca ml/mmHg 
Cv ml/mmHg 
Hr beat/min 
Vt ml 
Vs ml 
Vu ml 
Why does pulmonary venous pressure rise after 
onset of LV dysfunction: a theoretical analysis
Gelman’s again favouring Tyberg
Gelman’s…
UNICORNS IN ICU 
VOLEMIA
PPV 
IVCI SVV 
ΔVpeak 
PEPV 
SVCI 
PLR 
SPV 
Hold Exp 
RSVT 
Fluid responsiveness is function of system performance. 
ΔABF 
Volemia is just a (VOLUME) state. Volemia is linked to TBW.
Searching for performance (fluid responsiveness) in statics… 
REDV 
LEDA 
PAOP LVEDP PVC 
LEDV 
ITBV 
GEDV 
REDA 
Or reductionism at its absolute funniest.
P 
R 
E 
S 
S 
U 
R 
E 
V 
O 
L 
U 
M 
E 
DYNAMIC STATIC 
VOLEMIA
DAXOR 
-volume/static- 
Albumin I 131 
Vx 
Vy 
Cx 
dCx/dt
t 
Radioisotope 
DAXOR 
Regression to time 0 
Blood volume Injecting Measuring 
tgα 
+ 
+ 
_ _ 
Mixing 
BV PV RBCV CLI
Guytonian view on volemia 
-pressure/dynamic-functional- 
active-effective (Parkin) 
-RVR and Cv/Ca dependent- 
‘anatomical’-passive (Pinsky)
AMERICAN MSFP 
 MSFP-Pcv=Rv•Dc 
 MSFP-Pcv1=Rv•Dc1 
 MSFP-Pcvβ=Rv•Dcβ 
 2 unknowns Rv and MSFP 
 2 equations 
 Rv=(Pcv2-Pcv1)/(Dc1-Dc2) 
Maas,Pinsky 2009 
 MSFP-Pcv1=Rv•Dc1 
Dc1 
Pcv1
AMERICAN COMPLIANCE 
 C= ΔV/ΔP 
 C= ΔV/Pmsfa 
 C= (ΔV+Vx)/Pmsfb 
 C= Vx/(Pmsfb-Pmsfa) 
Vx 
Pmsf 
a 
Pmsfb 
Maas,Pinsky 2009 
α 
α
AUSTRALIAN MSFP 
-modified demonstration- 
Pa  Pv  Ra Q 
Pv  RAP  Rv Q 
Pa Ca  Pv Cv  Pms  (Ca Cv) 
Flux equations 
Volume equation 
C 
v 
C 
a 
x  
Ra  RvQ RAPCa  (Rv Q RAP) Cv  Pms  (Ca Cv) 
(Ra  Rv) QCa Cv Rv Q RAP(Ca Cv)  Pms(Ca Cv) 
x  24 :1 
RAP 
    
C (R R ) C R 
a a v v v 
ms  
   
(R R ) R x 
  
Q R x 
Q SVR 
1 
MAP 
  
Q R x 
  
Pmsa  0,96RAP  0,04MAP  c CO 
1 : 25 
R 
v 
R 
a 
 
  
R v R a 
SVR 
c0.3,1.2 
C 
P Q 
tot 
  
RAP 
1 x 
P Q 
a V v 
ms  
 
  
RAP 
x 1 
x 1 
P 
v 
ms  
 
 
 
 
 
) 
x 1 
RAP(1 
x 1 
x 1 
P 
v 
ms  
 
 
 

AUSTRALIAN MSFP 
Pmsa  0,96RAPact  0,04MAPact  c COact 
 
R x 
x 1 
c 
v 
 
 
1 
25 
R 
v 24  
R 
a 
C 
v   
C 
x 
a 
 
c      
SVRst 0.038 SVRst 
1 
26 
0.96 
24 SVR 
 
25 26 

AUSTRALIAN MSFP 
SVRst 
st 
MAP 
CO 
st 
MAPst = 94.17+0.19γ•age 
CI  4.50.99 
CIst=4.5•(0.99age-15)=COst/BSA 
BSA=0.007184•(height0.725)•(weight0.425) 
 
0.038 MAP 
CI BSA 
   
c 0.038 SVR 
st 
st 
st 
Parkin’s EH
HEART 
PERFORMANCE 
STATE 
ARTERIAL 
TONE 
STATE 
VOLUME 
STATE
Circulatory dynamic variables 
Volume state Tone state Performance state 
Blood volume 
Unstressed volume 
Stressed volume 
Compliance 
Venous resistance 
Chronotropy 
Dromotropy 
Inotropy 
Lusitropy 
SVR 
MAP-RAP=Pms•Eh•SVR/RVR
MSFP 
MCFP 
There ain’t no time for summertime blues
Fluid unresponsiveness-you 
do not want to go there 
AP↓ 
N 
Microcirculation Microcirculation 
VD 
N 
VC VP↑ 
P 
mmHg P 
mmHg 
A V A V
Bakker’s case
In a world of PPV or SVV… 
is there any room left for 
basic physiology?
Trending MSFP and Eh in PPV’s 
world 
 Is the patient ventilated without spontaneous efforts? 
 Is the patient ventilated in nonprotective ventilation (TV at least 8ml/kg)? 
 Is the patient in sinus rhythm ( or other regulated rhythm)? 
 How is Ecw versus El? 
 Is the patient unaffected by serious valvular disease? 
 Is the patient unaffected by right ventricle dysfunction or severe left ventricle 
dysfunction? 
 How is the patient’s IAP ? 
 Which treshhold will you use for your binary decision? 
 Have you established your patient’s compliance in order to standardize the VE? 
 Have you established that the patient’s heart rate/respiratory rate ratio is > 3.6?
Guytonian approach to shock - mean systemic filling pressure centered

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Guytonian approach to shock - mean systemic filling pressure centered

  • 1. SHOCK A GUYTONIAN APPROACH 2013 Bucharest-SUUB
  • 2. POISEUILLE’S LAW  I = ↑ / R (τhm’s law)  Q = (P1- P2) / R  CO = (MAP - PRA) / SVR  VR = (PMS - PRA) / RV
  • 3. ARCHETYPAL REDUCTIONISTIC NEED OF A FUNCTIONAL VENOUS HEMODYNAMIC POLE Weber E. 1850
  • 4. BASIC THEORETICAL IMPLICATIONS OF A HEMODYNAMIC VENOUS POLE  Small changes (as absolute values) in PRA, RV, PMS determine large changes in VR  Steady state - CO = VR ĺ CO (for constant dp/dt) depends on Pms (VR) and is adjusted (for variable dp/dt) through pump performance (inotropism,lusitropism,cronotropism)  ↑R’s physiology ĺ PMS / stressed blood volume + unstressed / RV
  • 5. MEAN SYSTEMIC FILLING PRESSURE  Stopped flow ĺ mean arterial pressure Ļ and large venous vessels pressure Ĺ ĺ as these two come closer to each other ĺ PMS  PMS = VS / CMS  PMS ≠ MAP
  • 6. BASIC BICOMPARTMENTAL MODEL OF Qr=5 Cv Pv=2 Pump Resistance Qh=5 Pa=102 Ca Qr=5 Cv Pv=2 Qh=0 Pa=102 Ca Qh=0 Pa=7 Ca Cv Pv=6 Qh=1 Pa=26 Ca Qr =1 MSFP Pump Resistance Pump Pump Resistance Resistance Cv Qr=0 Pv=7 • Pa-Pv=R∙Q • Pms=V/Cs • V=Va+Vv • Cs=Ca+Cv • Va=Pa∙Ca • Vv=Pv∙Cv • ΔPa=Pa-Pms=Vtr/Ca • ΔPv=Pms-Pv=Vtr/Cv • Cv/Ca=19 0 120 7 0 2 6 Pv 7 26 102 Pa Pa Pv 0 CO C O = 0 C O =1 CO=5 Modified from Levy 2007
  • 7. STRESSED / UNSTRESSED BLOOD VOLUME  V0 = blood volume needed to fill up the circulatory system just to the point where stress ( transmural pressure ) would be created  VS = blood volume that would begin to create stress ( transmural pressure ) if it were added up to V0 Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
  • 8. COMPLIANCE vs CAPACITANCE  Pms = VT - V0 / C ( ΔP= ΔV/C ) C = static, mechanical item, almost unadjustable  Pms = VT / Cp ( ΔP= VT / Cp ) Cp = dynamic, tone dependent - variable, sympathetically mediated item  VS►◄ V0  Pms is influenced by spontaneous (Δtemperature ) / therapeutic variation of Cp ( nitroglycerine ) ( VS ►◄ V0) or of VT  One easy example – vasopressors Ĺ VS by adjusting the capacitance (Ĺ Pms) of the reservoir compartment - splanchnic compartment ĺ Ĺ VR  VS ≈ 20-30 % (1,5 L)  C ≈ 0.187L∙mmHg-1  Pms ≈ 8-10 mmHg Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
  • 9. COMPLIANCE vs CAPACITANCE Elastance=tgı=ΔP/ΔV Compliance=1/tgı=ΔV/ΔP=V2-V1 =Vt-Vo=Vs/P Capacitance=Vt/P Modified from Jacobsohn 2013 σ
  • 13. VENOUS RESISTANCE RV = 8ηl / πr4 RV is influenced by the size of the venous circulation ĺ venous circ. time constant is determined by vascular volume / flux ( L∙min∙L-1 = min ) - (IJ = C∙R) Vasopressors could ĺ redistribute blood from one teritory to another ĺ from IJslow la IJfast ĺ Ļ RV si Ĺ VR Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
  • 15. VENOUS RETURN ON GRAPHS Starling Resistor Thoracic- Abdominal interface Pabd>Ppl Pleuro-vascular interface – PPVent. Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
  • 16. VENOUS RETURN ON GRAPHS tg α = slope α
  • 17. VASCULAR FUNCTION CURVES IN A BUNDLE Ȗ α ȕ α α Pms↑ Rv↓ Normal Rv↑ Pms↓ RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE VENOUS RETURN
  • 18. FRANK STARLING CURVE 0 inotropism ↓ afterload↑ RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE CARDIAC OUTPUT
  • 19. DIDACTICISM WITH A TASTE OF MATHEMATICAL COMPROMISE Y Y O X O X Y O X CO RAP ivasc Pms CO RAP tm CO RAP ? Pms Right shift in case of increasing Pextramural but with constant inotropism. RIGHT
  • 20. TREATMENTS AND THEIR HEMODYNAMIC CONSEQUENCES A B C ↓ Rv ↑ Pms D ↑Vt,↑Vs normal ȕ α α RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE CO / VR BLOOD vs CRISTALOID / COLOID 0 1 2 1 2 3 Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
  • 21. normal ↑Rv+↑Pms(↑Vs) ↑Rv A C B D RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE CO / VR 0 VASOPRESSORS ȕ α α 1 2 3 1 2 Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
  • 22. RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE CO / VR 0 ↓Rv ↓Rv+↓Pms ↓Vs normal C A B D α α ȕ INODILATORS 1 2 1 2 3 Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
  • 23. ↑Rv+↑Pms (↑Vs) normal ↑Rv B A C D INOVASOPRESSORS 0 RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE CO / VR α α ȕ 1 2 3 1 2 Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
  • 24. HYPOVOLEMIC SHOCK Mixed hemodynamic impact: inotropism and capacitance Starting point sensibility ( SIRS – increasing incidence ) Lusitropism might get affected during prolonged illness MSFP is maintained through capacitive recruitment and interstitial shift
  • 25. A B C 3 D E ↓Rv normal fluid shift ↓Pms (↓Vt) α α α ȕ RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE CO / VR 0 1 2 3 1 2 4 Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
  • 26. CARDIOGENIC SHOCK Primary hemodynamic impact: inotropism SIRS as a negative prognostic factor – hyperdynamic phenotype ( dynamic elastance PPV/SVV ↓ ) MSFP modulation is of secondary importance in favour of inotropic modulators Lusitropism has become a hallmark and requires therapeutic attitude Catecholaminergic spareness when possible ( levosimendan ?, omecamtiv mecarbil ?, istaroxime ?, metabolic modulation – HDI )
  • 27. Rv↓and Pms ↓(Dtx/Mil) + fluid shift+adm. Pms↑ through fluid shift+adm. normal A B C D E α ȕ α RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE CO / VR 0 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
  • 28. SEPTIC SHOCK Most complex hemodynamic impact: cardiogenic as well as vascular Cardiogenic impact: inotropism,lusitropism Vascular impact: capacitance, SVR/Eadyn and the reflection coefficient (glycocalyx) variable hemodynamic MSFP dependent phenotype Hemorheological consequences opening new therapeutic targets (Kenyeres) Microvascular - macrohemodynamics dissociation Unveiling guytonian reductionism
  • 29. RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE CO / VR A C B D E F Pms-N Rv-↓ normal Pms-↓ Rv-↓ Pms-↓ Rv-N 0 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
  • 30. OBSTRUCTIVE SHOCK TENSION PTX Vascular hemodynamic impact – Starling resistor at the pleural-vascular interface or at the pericardial-vascular/heart interface Secondary cardiac impact – RV afterload Therapeutics – typically mechanical
  • 31. normal Plateau shift Rv↑ Pms↑(fluid,SS) plateau shift plateau shift Rv↑ afterload ↑ A A1 B C D E F 0 RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE CO / VR SHIFT PLATEAU Ppl α ȕ α 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
  • 32. HEART LUNG INTERACTION in very few words Vascular plateau shift similar to obstructive shock Hemodynamic profile related to MSFP and the crossing point on the vascular-cardiac graph ESPVR dependent hemodynamic impact PVR dependent impact ( West zone profile ) Ecw ( IAP included ) relative to El dependent hemodynamic impact Prone position impact Lung-heart-kidney cross - talk Energy shift by lessening WOB
  • 33. Rv↑ Pms↑ (fluid,SS) normal Rv↑ Rv↑ Pms↓ dehydration Right shift SHIFT PLATEAU Right shift ++ 1 2 A B E C D F 1 2 3 4 3 0 Ppl+ Ppl++ RIGHT ATRIAL PRESSURE CO / VR α α ȕ α 4 Modified from Jacobsohn 2013
  • 34.
  • 35. 1959 Ca V  Ca Cv Ra Pms   V  Ca Cv Pms   Ca C P  Rv Ra D    Heart Lung Rv Cv Ra Rv Ca Cv Pa Pra     Va Vv Ca Cv Pms     Ca Pa Cv Pv Ca Cv Pms   Pv    Pa Pv Ra D    Pv RAP Rv D        Ca (Pv Ra D) Cv (RAP Rv D) Ca Cv Pms   RAP        Ca (Pv Ra D) Cv (RAP Rv D) Pms RAP   Ca Cv           Ca (Pv RAP) Cv Rv D Ca Ra D Ca Cv Pms RAP            Ca Rv D Cv Rv D Ca Ra D Ca Cv Pms RAP    Rv C Ca Ra C Pms RAP D       Ca C P  Rv Ra D   
  • 36. 1959 Ca C P  Rv Ra D    Cv Ra,Ca Rv VR ml/min %∙initial value 50 100 150
  • 37. 1993 Rc Ra LV RV Rv Rc Ca Ra Cv Rv Ca Cv Model parameters Ees mmHg/ml Vo ml Tes ms Τ ms Ra dyn∙s∙cm-5 Rc dyn∙s∙cm-5 Rv dyn∙s∙cm-5 Rt dyn∙s∙cm-5 Ca ml/mmHg Cv ml/mmHg Hr beat/min Vt ml Vs ml Vu ml Why does pulmonary venous pressure rise after onset of LV dysfunction: a theoretical analysis
  • 40. UNICORNS IN ICU VOLEMIA
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  • 42. PPV IVCI SVV ΔVpeak PEPV SVCI PLR SPV Hold Exp RSVT Fluid responsiveness is function of system performance. ΔABF Volemia is just a (VOLUME) state. Volemia is linked to TBW.
  • 43. Searching for performance (fluid responsiveness) in statics… REDV LEDA PAOP LVEDP PVC LEDV ITBV GEDV REDA Or reductionism at its absolute funniest.
  • 44. P R E S S U R E V O L U M E DYNAMIC STATIC VOLEMIA
  • 45. DAXOR -volume/static- Albumin I 131 Vx Vy Cx dCx/dt
  • 46. t Radioisotope DAXOR Regression to time 0 Blood volume Injecting Measuring tgα + + _ _ Mixing BV PV RBCV CLI
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  • 48. Guytonian view on volemia -pressure/dynamic-functional- active-effective (Parkin) -RVR and Cv/Ca dependent- ‘anatomical’-passive (Pinsky)
  • 49. AMERICAN MSFP  MSFP-Pcv=Rv•Dc  MSFP-Pcv1=Rv•Dc1  MSFP-Pcvβ=Rv•Dcβ  2 unknowns Rv and MSFP  2 equations  Rv=(Pcv2-Pcv1)/(Dc1-Dc2) Maas,Pinsky 2009  MSFP-Pcv1=Rv•Dc1 Dc1 Pcv1
  • 50. AMERICAN COMPLIANCE  C= ΔV/ΔP  C= ΔV/Pmsfa  C= (ΔV+Vx)/Pmsfb  C= Vx/(Pmsfb-Pmsfa) Vx Pmsf a Pmsfb Maas,Pinsky 2009 α α
  • 51. AUSTRALIAN MSFP -modified demonstration- Pa  Pv  Ra Q Pv  RAP  Rv Q Pa Ca  Pv Cv  Pms  (Ca Cv) Flux equations Volume equation C v C a x  Ra  RvQ RAPCa  (Rv Q RAP) Cv  Pms  (Ca Cv) (Ra  Rv) QCa Cv Rv Q RAP(Ca Cv)  Pms(Ca Cv) x  24 :1 RAP     C (R R ) C R a a v v v ms     (R R ) R x   Q R x Q SVR 1 MAP   Q R x   Pmsa  0,96RAP  0,04MAP  c CO 1 : 25 R v R a    R v R a SVR c0.3,1.2 C P Q tot   RAP 1 x P Q a V v ms     RAP x 1 x 1 P v ms       ) x 1 RAP(1 x 1 x 1 P v ms     
  • 52. AUSTRALIAN MSFP Pmsa  0,96RAPact  0,04MAPact  c COact  R x x 1 c v   1 25 R v 24  R a C v   C x a  c      SVRst 0.038 SVRst 1 26 0.96 24 SVR  25 26 
  • 53. AUSTRALIAN MSFP SVRst st MAP CO st MAPst = 94.17+0.19γ•age CI  4.50.99 CIst=4.5•(0.99age-15)=COst/BSA BSA=0.007184•(height0.725)•(weight0.425)  0.038 MAP CI BSA    c 0.038 SVR st st st 
  • 55. HEART PERFORMANCE STATE ARTERIAL TONE STATE VOLUME STATE
  • 56. Circulatory dynamic variables Volume state Tone state Performance state Blood volume Unstressed volume Stressed volume Compliance Venous resistance Chronotropy Dromotropy Inotropy Lusitropy SVR MAP-RAP=Pms•Eh•SVR/RVR
  • 57. MSFP MCFP There ain’t no time for summertime blues
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  • 63. Fluid unresponsiveness-you do not want to go there AP↓ N Microcirculation Microcirculation VD N VC VP↑ P mmHg P mmHg A V A V
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  • 71. In a world of PPV or SVV… is there any room left for basic physiology?
  • 72. Trending MSFP and Eh in PPV’s world  Is the patient ventilated without spontaneous efforts?  Is the patient ventilated in nonprotective ventilation (TV at least 8ml/kg)?  Is the patient in sinus rhythm ( or other regulated rhythm)?  How is Ecw versus El?  Is the patient unaffected by serious valvular disease?  Is the patient unaffected by right ventricle dysfunction or severe left ventricle dysfunction?  How is the patient’s IAP ?  Which treshhold will you use for your binary decision?  Have you established your patient’s compliance in order to standardize the VE?  Have you established that the patient’s heart rate/respiratory rate ratio is > 3.6?