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13C NMR
Those seminars are designed to answer most of the questions
CCRMN users often ask, or to let them know some less usual
experiments. If it doesn’t fit your needs, please let us know !
Practical NMR seminars
Centre Commun de RMN de l'université Lyon1,
bâtiment Lederer, 1 rue Victor Grignard, 69616 Villeurbanne
ccrmn@univ-lyon1.fr http://ccrmn.univ-lyon1.fr
13C : about magnetic fields
Test tube 10% Ethyl Benzene/CDCl3, 1 scan RD=150s, zgpg30
300MHz
SiNo 46
400MHz
SiNo 80
500MHz
SiNo=100
13C : low sensitivity
1st spectrum
2nd spectrum
Sum of the 2 spectra
13C : about the price ..."
 Spectrometer choice:
spectro 300 400 500
sensibilité 13
C 110 190 290
prix 6 7 8
prix 13
C 5mg 24 14 8
prix 13
C 10mg 12 7 4
prix 13
C 100mg 1 1,2 1,3
Tell us the mass in the tube, or NS
Tell us what you want
factor of 2 in Si/No en sensibilité =>
factor of 4 in acquisition time
WE analysis : 15% off
Collaboration : 70% off
Setup of a new experiment is free
13C : about resolution
standart processing LB = 1Hz
Si/No = 221
simple FT
Si/No = 93
13C : pulse sequences
Tube test di-bromo-propanoic-acid/CDCl3, 500MHz, 32 scans RD=60s, AQ=1s
Si/No
2219
6335
77 83
260150
zggd
zgig
zgpg
RD AQ
13C
1Hzg
RD AQ
13C
1H
RD AQ
13C
1H
RD AQ
13C
1H
13C : pulse sequences
Tube test di-bromo-propanoic-acid/CDCl3, 500MHz, 32 scans RD=60s, AQ=1s
zgig no NoE no decoupling
Si/No=83
zgpg with NoE and decoupling
Si/No=260
RD AQ
13C
1Hzg : no NoE no decoupling
Si/No=22
RD AQ
13C
1H
RD AQ
13C
1H
RD AQ
13C
1H
zggd : with NoE no decoupling
Si/No=63
Test tube Ethyl Benzene/CDCl3, 500MHz, sonde BBFO, 1 scan RD=60s, AQ=1s
zggd : with NoE no decoupling
Si/No = 31
zgpg : with NoE and decoupling
Si/No=178
RD AQ
13C
1H
RD AQ
13C
1H
13C observation
13C : coupling constants measurements
13C : coupling constants measurements
Tube test Ethyl Benzene/CDCl3, 500MHz, sonde BBFO, 8 scans RD=60s, AQ=1s
HSQC 1D
Si/No = 27
1H observation
ZG
Si/No = 21 000
Tube IMP PEG / D2O, 500MHz, 8192 scans RD=2s, AQ=1,4s
Zhou, JMR, 187(2007) p.225
Bi Waltz 256
Waltz 16
RD AQ
13C
1H
zgpg
Si/No=10 500
Si/No=11 700
About decoupling
About decoupling
RD AQ
Observation channel
Decoupling channel
BBFO probe
(all sepctrometers)
BBI probe
(500 MHz only)
Optimisation on 13C and X nuclei
19F on X channel
Canal 1 : 1H only
Canal 2 : « X » 31P 109Ag et 19F
Optimisée 1H
Fluor sur le canal 1H
Canal 1 : 1H and 19F
Canal 2 : « X » 31P 109Ag
X spectra (including 13C, 19F) {1H}
spectre 1H {X ou 19F}
X spectra {1H or 19F}
1H ou 19F spectra {X}
About decoupling
Sondes BBFO : 13C{1H}
Sonde BBI : 13C{19F}
Requires a probe change + rewiring to change decoupling nucleus
13C : DEPT
13C {1H}
13C {19F}
13C -1H DEPT
13C -19F DEPT
Requires a probe change + rewiring to change decoupling nucleus
BBFO probe on the 500MHz : 13C – 1H expt
BBI probe on the 500MHz : HSQC 19F - 13C
13C : 2D 13C-19F
BBI probe on the 500MHz : HSQC 19F - 13C
Requires a probe change + rewiring to change decoupling nucleus
13C : 2D 13C-19F
Sonde BBI : 13C{19F}
J = 60 Hz
J = 270 Hz
Requires a probe change + rewiring to change decoupling nucleus
13C : 2D 19F-19F
Noesy 19F-19F
13C : 2D 13C-19F
Sonde BBI : 13C{19F}
Requires a probe change + rewiring to change decoupling nucleus
edited 13C pulse sequences
63 63
100
110
250
230
210
PENDANT
JMOD ou APT
DEPT sp Q
DEPT 135 sp
Di Bromo Propanoic Acid 100mg/CDCl3 32 scans RD=60s
RD
AQ
13C
1H
=1/nJ =1/nJ
RD
AQ
13C
1H
=1/nJ =1/nJ
JMOD ou APT
DEPT
=1/nJ
J=145 Hz default value
NS multiple of 32
edited 13C pulse sequences
• Peak sign = relative value
• J=145 Hz default value, can be changed upon request
edited 13C pulse sequences
ccrmn.univ-lyon1.fr

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Rmn 13C

  • 1. 13C NMR Those seminars are designed to answer most of the questions CCRMN users often ask, or to let them know some less usual experiments. If it doesn’t fit your needs, please let us know ! Practical NMR seminars Centre Commun de RMN de l'université Lyon1, bâtiment Lederer, 1 rue Victor Grignard, 69616 Villeurbanne ccrmn@univ-lyon1.fr http://ccrmn.univ-lyon1.fr
  • 2. 13C : about magnetic fields Test tube 10% Ethyl Benzene/CDCl3, 1 scan RD=150s, zgpg30 300MHz SiNo 46 400MHz SiNo 80 500MHz SiNo=100
  • 3. 13C : low sensitivity 1st spectrum 2nd spectrum Sum of the 2 spectra
  • 4. 13C : about the price ..."  Spectrometer choice: spectro 300 400 500 sensibilité 13 C 110 190 290 prix 6 7 8 prix 13 C 5mg 24 14 8 prix 13 C 10mg 12 7 4 prix 13 C 100mg 1 1,2 1,3 Tell us the mass in the tube, or NS Tell us what you want factor of 2 in Si/No en sensibilité => factor of 4 in acquisition time WE analysis : 15% off Collaboration : 70% off Setup of a new experiment is free
  • 5. 13C : about resolution standart processing LB = 1Hz Si/No = 221 simple FT Si/No = 93
  • 6. 13C : pulse sequences Tube test di-bromo-propanoic-acid/CDCl3, 500MHz, 32 scans RD=60s, AQ=1s Si/No 2219 6335 77 83 260150 zggd zgig zgpg RD AQ 13C 1Hzg RD AQ 13C 1H RD AQ 13C 1H RD AQ 13C 1H
  • 7. 13C : pulse sequences Tube test di-bromo-propanoic-acid/CDCl3, 500MHz, 32 scans RD=60s, AQ=1s zgig no NoE no decoupling Si/No=83 zgpg with NoE and decoupling Si/No=260 RD AQ 13C 1Hzg : no NoE no decoupling Si/No=22 RD AQ 13C 1H RD AQ 13C 1H RD AQ 13C 1H zggd : with NoE no decoupling Si/No=63
  • 8. Test tube Ethyl Benzene/CDCl3, 500MHz, sonde BBFO, 1 scan RD=60s, AQ=1s zggd : with NoE no decoupling Si/No = 31 zgpg : with NoE and decoupling Si/No=178 RD AQ 13C 1H RD AQ 13C 1H 13C observation 13C : coupling constants measurements
  • 9. 13C : coupling constants measurements Tube test Ethyl Benzene/CDCl3, 500MHz, sonde BBFO, 8 scans RD=60s, AQ=1s HSQC 1D Si/No = 27 1H observation ZG Si/No = 21 000
  • 10. Tube IMP PEG / D2O, 500MHz, 8192 scans RD=2s, AQ=1,4s Zhou, JMR, 187(2007) p.225 Bi Waltz 256 Waltz 16 RD AQ 13C 1H zgpg Si/No=10 500 Si/No=11 700 About decoupling
  • 11. About decoupling RD AQ Observation channel Decoupling channel BBFO probe (all sepctrometers) BBI probe (500 MHz only) Optimisation on 13C and X nuclei 19F on X channel Canal 1 : 1H only Canal 2 : « X » 31P 109Ag et 19F Optimisée 1H Fluor sur le canal 1H Canal 1 : 1H and 19F Canal 2 : « X » 31P 109Ag X spectra (including 13C, 19F) {1H} spectre 1H {X ou 19F} X spectra {1H or 19F} 1H ou 19F spectra {X}
  • 12. About decoupling Sondes BBFO : 13C{1H} Sonde BBI : 13C{19F} Requires a probe change + rewiring to change decoupling nucleus
  • 13. 13C : DEPT 13C {1H} 13C {19F} 13C -1H DEPT 13C -19F DEPT Requires a probe change + rewiring to change decoupling nucleus BBFO probe on the 500MHz : 13C – 1H expt BBI probe on the 500MHz : HSQC 19F - 13C
  • 14. 13C : 2D 13C-19F BBI probe on the 500MHz : HSQC 19F - 13C Requires a probe change + rewiring to change decoupling nucleus
  • 15. 13C : 2D 13C-19F Sonde BBI : 13C{19F} J = 60 Hz J = 270 Hz Requires a probe change + rewiring to change decoupling nucleus
  • 16. 13C : 2D 19F-19F Noesy 19F-19F
  • 17. 13C : 2D 13C-19F Sonde BBI : 13C{19F} Requires a probe change + rewiring to change decoupling nucleus
  • 18. edited 13C pulse sequences 63 63 100 110 250 230 210 PENDANT JMOD ou APT DEPT sp Q DEPT 135 sp Di Bromo Propanoic Acid 100mg/CDCl3 32 scans RD=60s
  • 19. RD AQ 13C 1H =1/nJ =1/nJ RD AQ 13C 1H =1/nJ =1/nJ JMOD ou APT DEPT =1/nJ J=145 Hz default value NS multiple of 32 edited 13C pulse sequences
  • 20. • Peak sign = relative value • J=145 Hz default value, can be changed upon request edited 13C pulse sequences

Editor's Notes

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