“INTERTEXTUALITY 
and the Discourse Community” 
Written by, James Porter Rhetoric Review 1986 
Presentation by, Dr. Iris D. Ruiz
CHALLENGES THE MISCONCEPTION OF THE 
FREE WRITER/LONELY WRITER 
-The idea of Intertextuality 
challenges the idea of the Writer as 
a free and uninhibited spirit. 
-The writer is always situated in 
many discourses at once (the 11 
kinds texts on next slide) 
-(35) According to this view, authorial intention is less 
significant than social 
context; the writer is simply a part of a discourse 
tradition, a member of a team, 
and a participant in a community of discourse that 
creates its own collective 
meaning. Thus the intertext constrains writing.
Writer as a “Collector of 
fragments” (34). 
When we piece together our thoughts on a topic, 
these parts are essentially made up of the 
following: 
1. Texts….What kind? 
2. Visual Texts (Digital, Cultural, and Mundane) 
3. Personal Texts (Literal) (Pathos) 
4. Academic Texts (Ethos) (Discourse) 
5. Social Commentary/Media (Digital Texts) 
6. Personal Experience (Empirical Evidence) 
7. Outside Voices offering their experience 
8. Artistic Texts (Constraints) 
9. Literary Texts (Romantic, Post-Modern) 
10. Religious Texts (Various) 
11. Historical Texts (Various)
V 
Visual Religious Intertext
The Web of Meaning 
-Vgotsky’s “Web of Meaning” postulates 
that all texts are interconnected like a 
spider web. 
-This can be referred to as Logos or the 
way a text is sewn together to create 
meaning. 
-The sources that produces that 
meaning comes from the 11 mentioned 
previously. 
-34 The most mundane manifestation of 
intertextuality is explicit citation, but 
intertextuality animates all discourse 
and goes beyond mere citation.
DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AS 
INTERTEXT 
-Was Thomas Jefferson the real 
author of the Declaration of 
Independence? 
-No. The Declaration of 
independence is an intertextual 
text in that it borrows from a 
pastiche of texts and is sewn 
together to demonstrate a new 
textual creation. 
-Borrowed from John Locke’s 
Social Contract Theory
DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND OUR 
OWN INTERTEXTUAL EXAMPLES 
-And the most memorable 
phrases in the Declaration seem to be least Jefferson's: "That all men are created 
equal" is a sentiment from Euripides which Jefferson copied in his literary commonplace 
book as a boy; "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness" was a 
cliche of the times (late 18th cent), appearing in numerous political documents (Dumbauld). 
-Was Jefferson a creative genius or a blatant plagiarist? 
-Our intertextual examples dealt with the following issues: 
1. We live in America, so we should speak English. 
2. We live in America, so we should know more than one language. 
We used intertextuality as a way to conceive of two authors that can inform these 2 issues. 
• How would Anzaldua and Rodriguez debate these issues? We referred to quotes from the 
texts to respond to one another. For example:
INTERTEXTUALITY AND DISCOURSE 
COMMUNITIES 
• A discourse community is a group of individuals bound by a common interests who 
communicate through approved channels and whose discourse is regulated. 
• p. Some discourse communities are firmly established, such as the scientific community, 
the medical profession, and the justice system 
• An individual may belong to several professional, public, or personal discourse 
communities. Examples would include the community of engineers whose research area 
is fluid mechanics; alumni of the University of Michigan; Magnavox employees; the 
members of the Porter family; and members of the Indiana Teachers of Writing. (39) 
• What are some discourse communities that you all belong to?
IS THERE A SUCH THING AS AN ORIGINAL TEXT? 
• We are free insofar as we do what we can to encounter and learn new codes, to intertwine 
codes in new ways, and to expand our semiotic potential-with our goal being to effect 
change and establish our identities within the discourse communities we choose to enter. 
• We can do this by putting two unrelated voices in common like that of Anzaldua and 
Rodriguez. 
• "The struggle of the student writer is not the struggle to bring out that which is within; it is 
the struggle to carry out those ritual activities that grant our entrance into a closed 
society" (Bartholomae 300).
QUOTES AS INTERTEXT 
• We use quotes to talk to each other. 
• We use quotes to support our own points. 
• We make points with other peoples texts even when our arguments are counter to their 
claims. 
• I.E.: Conversation between two unlikely conversants. 
• Anzaldua says: (108) “I am visible—see this face—yet I am invisible. I both blind them 
with my beak nose and am their blind spot. But I exist, we exist. They’d like to think I have 
melted in the pot. But I haven’t, we haven’t. 
• Rodriguez says: Rodriguez recollects family members’ fears of having children with dark 
skin and his mother’s constant concern that Rodriguez stay out of the sun. At the age of 
eleven or twelve, Rodriguez had attempted to shave off the brown of his skin
CULTURE/IDENTITY AS AN INTERTEXTUAL DEBATE-- 
-- 1ST 2ND 3RD WAVE FEMINISM VS. WOMANISM 
VS. 
I am possessed by a vision: 
that we Chicanas and 
Chicanos have taken back or 
uncovered our true faces, our 
dignity, our self-respect. (109) 
As Gay points out, Beyoncé's a "great feminist" 
who "happens to be sexy" and no longer wears 
pants. It's all about freedom of choice, right? 
Beyonce is a feminist because she says she 
is...

Intertextuality

  • 1.
    “INTERTEXTUALITY and theDiscourse Community” Written by, James Porter Rhetoric Review 1986 Presentation by, Dr. Iris D. Ruiz
  • 2.
    CHALLENGES THE MISCONCEPTIONOF THE FREE WRITER/LONELY WRITER -The idea of Intertextuality challenges the idea of the Writer as a free and uninhibited spirit. -The writer is always situated in many discourses at once (the 11 kinds texts on next slide) -(35) According to this view, authorial intention is less significant than social context; the writer is simply a part of a discourse tradition, a member of a team, and a participant in a community of discourse that creates its own collective meaning. Thus the intertext constrains writing.
  • 3.
    Writer as a“Collector of fragments” (34). When we piece together our thoughts on a topic, these parts are essentially made up of the following: 1. Texts….What kind? 2. Visual Texts (Digital, Cultural, and Mundane) 3. Personal Texts (Literal) (Pathos) 4. Academic Texts (Ethos) (Discourse) 5. Social Commentary/Media (Digital Texts) 6. Personal Experience (Empirical Evidence) 7. Outside Voices offering their experience 8. Artistic Texts (Constraints) 9. Literary Texts (Romantic, Post-Modern) 10. Religious Texts (Various) 11. Historical Texts (Various)
  • 4.
  • 5.
    The Web ofMeaning -Vgotsky’s “Web of Meaning” postulates that all texts are interconnected like a spider web. -This can be referred to as Logos or the way a text is sewn together to create meaning. -The sources that produces that meaning comes from the 11 mentioned previously. -34 The most mundane manifestation of intertextuality is explicit citation, but intertextuality animates all discourse and goes beyond mere citation.
  • 6.
    DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCEAS INTERTEXT -Was Thomas Jefferson the real author of the Declaration of Independence? -No. The Declaration of independence is an intertextual text in that it borrows from a pastiche of texts and is sewn together to demonstrate a new textual creation. -Borrowed from John Locke’s Social Contract Theory
  • 7.
    DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCEAND OUR OWN INTERTEXTUAL EXAMPLES -And the most memorable phrases in the Declaration seem to be least Jefferson's: "That all men are created equal" is a sentiment from Euripides which Jefferson copied in his literary commonplace book as a boy; "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness" was a cliche of the times (late 18th cent), appearing in numerous political documents (Dumbauld). -Was Jefferson a creative genius or a blatant plagiarist? -Our intertextual examples dealt with the following issues: 1. We live in America, so we should speak English. 2. We live in America, so we should know more than one language. We used intertextuality as a way to conceive of two authors that can inform these 2 issues. • How would Anzaldua and Rodriguez debate these issues? We referred to quotes from the texts to respond to one another. For example:
  • 8.
    INTERTEXTUALITY AND DISCOURSE COMMUNITIES • A discourse community is a group of individuals bound by a common interests who communicate through approved channels and whose discourse is regulated. • p. Some discourse communities are firmly established, such as the scientific community, the medical profession, and the justice system • An individual may belong to several professional, public, or personal discourse communities. Examples would include the community of engineers whose research area is fluid mechanics; alumni of the University of Michigan; Magnavox employees; the members of the Porter family; and members of the Indiana Teachers of Writing. (39) • What are some discourse communities that you all belong to?
  • 9.
    IS THERE ASUCH THING AS AN ORIGINAL TEXT? • We are free insofar as we do what we can to encounter and learn new codes, to intertwine codes in new ways, and to expand our semiotic potential-with our goal being to effect change and establish our identities within the discourse communities we choose to enter. • We can do this by putting two unrelated voices in common like that of Anzaldua and Rodriguez. • "The struggle of the student writer is not the struggle to bring out that which is within; it is the struggle to carry out those ritual activities that grant our entrance into a closed society" (Bartholomae 300).
  • 10.
    QUOTES AS INTERTEXT • We use quotes to talk to each other. • We use quotes to support our own points. • We make points with other peoples texts even when our arguments are counter to their claims. • I.E.: Conversation between two unlikely conversants. • Anzaldua says: (108) “I am visible—see this face—yet I am invisible. I both blind them with my beak nose and am their blind spot. But I exist, we exist. They’d like to think I have melted in the pot. But I haven’t, we haven’t. • Rodriguez says: Rodriguez recollects family members’ fears of having children with dark skin and his mother’s constant concern that Rodriguez stay out of the sun. At the age of eleven or twelve, Rodriguez had attempted to shave off the brown of his skin
  • 11.
    CULTURE/IDENTITY AS ANINTERTEXTUAL DEBATE-- -- 1ST 2ND 3RD WAVE FEMINISM VS. WOMANISM VS. I am possessed by a vision: that we Chicanas and Chicanos have taken back or uncovered our true faces, our dignity, our self-respect. (109) As Gay points out, Beyoncé's a "great feminist" who "happens to be sexy" and no longer wears pants. It's all about freedom of choice, right? Beyonce is a feminist because she says she is...