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1
Issue
 As shown below, for DDR, the CLK frequency is half of
data frequency. So, desense is seen on channels
surrounding (533/ 2 * 7 = DCS 1800 ; 533/2 *8 =W/L-B1)
when DDR is running at 533 MHz[1-3].
 And channels surrounding (400/2 * 9, = DCS 1800 ;
400/2 * 10 = 2000 MHz, right above the high band of PCS
1900 and W/L-B2) when DDR is running at 400 MHz[1-2].
(533/2)*N (533/2)*(N+1)
(400/2)*N (400/2)*(N+1)
Channel
Level
2
Issue
 In some design, DDR chip is on baseband chip(POP-
Package on Package), DDR noise is coupled to
baseband chip, noise then transfers to baseband chip
RX I/Q pins and is carried to RF chip[1-2].
Transceiver
BaseBand
Chip
RX IQ
DDR Noise
3
Mitigation
 Locate a LC filter near baseband chip on RX I/Q
signal[1,2].
Transceiver
BaseBand
Chip
RX IQ
DDR Noise
 Nevertheless, the shunt capacitor should NOT be too
large.
4
Mitigation
 As show below, the wider the LTE signal bandwidth is,
the wider the baseband I/Q signal bandwidth will be.
 Take 150 pF shunt capacitor for example, chances are
that the sensitivity of 15/20 MHz bandwidth LTE signal
may degrade because I/Q signal is attenuated.
5
Reference
[1] MSM8x26/MSM8x28 + WTR2605 DDR Desense Issue, Qualcomm
[2] MSM8926/MSM8928 Chipset DDR Desense Issue, Qualcomm
[3] Analysis of GSM ORFS Issue, slideshare
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DDR Desense Issue

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  • 2. Issue  As shown below, for DDR, the CLK frequency is half of data frequency. So, desense is seen on channels surrounding (533/ 2 * 7 = DCS 1800 ; 533/2 *8 =W/L-B1) when DDR is running at 533 MHz[1-3].  And channels surrounding (400/2 * 9, = DCS 1800 ; 400/2 * 10 = 2000 MHz, right above the high band of PCS 1900 and W/L-B2) when DDR is running at 400 MHz[1-2]. (533/2)*N (533/2)*(N+1) (400/2)*N (400/2)*(N+1) Channel Level 2
  • 3. Issue  In some design, DDR chip is on baseband chip(POP- Package on Package), DDR noise is coupled to baseband chip, noise then transfers to baseband chip RX I/Q pins and is carried to RF chip[1-2]. Transceiver BaseBand Chip RX IQ DDR Noise 3
  • 4. Mitigation  Locate a LC filter near baseband chip on RX I/Q signal[1,2]. Transceiver BaseBand Chip RX IQ DDR Noise  Nevertheless, the shunt capacitor should NOT be too large. 4
  • 5. Mitigation  As show below, the wider the LTE signal bandwidth is, the wider the baseband I/Q signal bandwidth will be.  Take 150 pF shunt capacitor for example, chances are that the sensitivity of 15/20 MHz bandwidth LTE signal may degrade because I/Q signal is attenuated. 5
  • 6. Reference [1] MSM8x26/MSM8x28 + WTR2605 DDR Desense Issue, Qualcomm [2] MSM8926/MSM8928 Chipset DDR Desense Issue, Qualcomm [3] Analysis of GSM ORFS Issue, slideshare 6