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Cold Climate Air Source Heat Pumps: Study
Update
Ben Schoenbauer, Senior Research Engineer
Better Buildings: Better Business Conference
March 2, 2017
Pg. 2
What We Do
• Energy Program Design & Delivery
• Engineering Services
• Lending Center
• Public Policy
• Research
• Education and Outreach
Pg. 3
Acknowledgements
• These projects are supported in part by grants from the
Minnesota Department of Commerce, Division of
Energy Resources through a Conservation Applied
Research and Development (CARD) program
• The heat pump project was also supported by Great
River Energy and the Electric Power Research Institute
Pg. 4
Learn about…
• The energy savings potential for ASHPs, as well as the
potential for offsetting the reliance on delivered fuels in areas
where natural gas is unavailable
• The differences in ASHP installed performance compared to
the manufacturer specified performance
• The applicability of both technologies to Minnesota’s housing
stock and the process that can be used to determine where
the best potential exists for each technology
Pg. 5
www.mncee.org
Cold Climate Air
Source Heat Pump
Field Assessment
Pg. 6
Agenda
• Cold Climate Air Source Heat Pump
• What is different?
• Opportunity
• Installation and operation
• Preliminary results
• Conclusions
Pg. 7
Cold Climate Air-Source Heat Pump?
• An ASHP uses a refrigerant system
involving a compressor, condenser, and
evaporator to absorb heat at one place and
release it at another.
• Delivery of both heating and cooling via
forced air distribution
• New generation systems can operate as low
as -13 °F
• ASHPs have the potential to deliver energy
and peak saving as well as reduce reliance
on delivered fuels.
Pg. 8
Opportunity
• Winter of 2013/2014 saw delivered fuel shortages in MN
• Delivered fuel expensive or unavailable
• Compensation with electric resistance space heaters
• Market:
• Delivered fuel are the primary space heating fuel for more than 40%
of homes in MN, IA, SD, ND (RECS, 2009)
• Over 25% of Midwest homes rely on fuels other than natural gas for
space heating (RECS, 2009)
• Over 47% of homes in the US rely on fuels other than natural gas for
space heating (RECS, 2009)
Pg. 9
• Primary Heating with LP1
• Metro, < 4%
• Outstate, up to 40%
• Primary Heat Sources2
• Utility gas, 67%
• Electricity, 16%
• LP, 10%
• Fuel Oil, 3%
• Wood, 3%
Source: Levenson-Faulk, Annie. 2015. “Propane Conversion Strategies: Energy Alternatives
for Minnesota Users of Propane Gas.” St. Paul, MN: Legislative Energy Commission
1 U.S. Census Bureau. American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates - 2009-2013
2 U.S. Census Bureau. American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates - 2010-2014
Opportunity - Minnesota
Pg. 10
Utilities and Rebates
Pg. 11
Study Overview
• Field Study
• 6 ccASHP in a variety of MN residences
• 3 installed for the 2015-2016 heating
season
• Monitor installed field performance of
ASHP and backup
• Incorporate into Conservation
Improvement Program (CIP)
• Climate zones 6 & 7
Pg. 12
Instrumentation
1 2 3
4
5
6 7
8 11
12
13
14
15
Power Measurements:
1) Outdoor unit
2) Indoor unit
3) Indoor fan
4) Reversing valve
Temperatures:
5) Supply Air
6) Return Air
7) Mechanical area ambient
8) Conditioned space
Additional:
9) Back up fuel consumption
10) Delivered air flow
11) NOAA data
Pg. 13
Installation
• Important Issues:
• Equipment
• Sizing
• Operation
• Integration with back-up systems
Pg. 14
Site Equipment
Site Number ASHP System ASHP Size ASHP Type Backup
1*
Carrier Infinity with Greenspeed
[25VNA048A003] 4 ton Ducted LP Cond. Furnace
2*
Bryant Extreme Heat Pump
[280ANV048] 4 ton Ducted LP Cond. Furnace
3*
Carrier Infinity with Greenspeed
[25VNA036A003] 3 ton Ducted LP 80% Furnace
4
Trane XV20i
[4TWV0036A] 3 ton Ducted LP Cond. Furnace
5
Mitsibishi Ductless Hyper Heat
[MUZ-FH18NAH] 1.5 ton Ductless Electric Resistance
6
Mitsibishi Ductless Hyper Heat
[MSZ-FH12NA]
1 ton
(2 units) Ductless Electric Resistance
* Installed during 2015-2016 heating season
Pg. 15
Manufacturer Specified Performance
NEEP | Cold Climate Heat Pump Specification
Pg. 16
Cold Climate Specification
Pg. 17
System Design: Sizing
The OAT for the systems
to switch to back up:
4 ton ~3 F
3 ton ~10 F
2 ton ~19F
Percentage of heating
load meet by ASHP:
4 ton ~ 86%,
3 ton ~ 77%
2 ton ~ 60%
3 °F
10 °F
19 °F
3 ton
4 ton
2 ton
House heating load
Targeted a maximum change-over temp of 10 F
Pg. 18
Operation
• Switchover set point:
• Ducted Systems: 10 degrees F
• Ductless Systems: -13 degrees F
• Controls:
• Ducted Systems: automated controls to bring up backup
• Ductless Systems: manual action by homeowner
• Interaction with back-up systems
• Ducted Systems: Integrated installs with shared controls
• Ductless Systems: Separate systems
Pg. 19
Furnace Integration – Keep or Replace?
• Issues:
• Air handler requires a multi-stage fan to achieve the full capability of
the ccASHPs
• Furnace and heat pump require integrated controls
• Proposed Solutions:
• New condensing furnace with control integration
• New 80% AFUE with multi-stage fan with control integration
• Retrofit existing system (future?)
• Plenum electric resistance heater
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Ductless
Pg. 21
Ductless: Install Location
Performance: Ducted Systems
Pg. 23
System Operation
• Heating system has 3 modes of operation
• ASHP heating
• Furnace heating
• Defrost
Outdoor Fan OFF
Refrigerant in reverse
Furnace ONDefrost
Pg. 24
ASHP and Furnace Cycle Efficiency, Site 2
• Without propane:
• COPs 1.5 to 3.5
• Furnace SS Efficiency
• 90% +
• Defrost reduces COP
to < 0.5
• ASHP lockout at 10 F
Pg. 25
System COP vs OAT
Pg. 26
System COP vs Furnace runtime
Pg. 27
ASHP Performance
• Rated COPs of
3.0-3.5 at 47 F
• COP observed
• 1.5-3.5 (site 1 & 2)
• 1-3.5 (site 3)
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Example: Capacity on a 17 ⁰F day
At 18:45
OAT = 15 F
House load = 15,300 Btu/hr
ASHP Output = 16,700 Btu/hr
ASHP Sup Temp = 89 F
Airflow = 734 CFM
Pg. 29
Meeting the Load
Performance: Ductless Systems
Pg. 31
Daily Performance
Pg. 32
Ductless with Backup
Pg. 33
Ducted v Ductless
• Heat pump only events have comparable COPs
• Ducted systems
• have larger capacities than single head ductless
• have larger airflows
• Ductless systems
• provided a smaller fraction of the homes energy (by design)
• operated at lower outdoor temperatures
Pg. 34
System Airflow
Pg. 35
Air Temperatures
Pg. 36
Energy Use Vs OAT Models
Pg. 37
Preliminary Results
• Compared to LP furnaces the ccASHPs
• Reduced between 40% and 65% of site energy consumption
• Reduced total heating costs 19% to 35%
• On average ccASHP met 84% of the homes heating loads
• Reduced propane consumption by around 60%, up to 89% at one site
• Compared to Electric Resistance Heat
• Provided more efficient space heating (COP of 1.6, compared to 1.0)
• Savings are largely dependent on usage and install location
Pg. 38
Conclusions
• Systems should sized for heating, typically results in 1-ton
larger system that if sized for cooling
• With proper sizing ccASHPs are capable of meeting the loads in
typical MN homes at or below 10 ⁰F outdoor temps.
• Preliminary results show ccASHP COPs of 1.5-3.5 and
annual system COPs between 1.4 and 1.8.
Pg. 39
Conclusions: LP
• ccASHPs will reduce delivered fuel consumption enough to
avoid costly winter refueling in most MN homes.
• 60% to 89% reduction
• Estimate annual usage of for a most homes should be under 375 gal
Pg. 40
Future Needs
• There is still room for improvement:
• Reduce unnecessary back-up heating
• Defrost?
• Lower change over point?
• Reduce upfront installation costs
• Systems with new furnaces cost $15,000
• New LP furnaces with modulating fans ~$5,500
• NREL database ccASHP only ~$7,000
• Costs are much higher than incremental equipment costs compared to
AC systems
Ben Schoenbauer:
bschoenbauer@mncee.org
Pg. 42
Policy Work
Pg. 43
Policy Analysis – Minnesota context
• Lack of structure for achieving delivered fuel savings from
ccASHPs for electric utilities
• The fuel switching concern – should not apply in these
scenarios
• Precedents: low income CIP
• New program suggestions
• Net BTU analysis
• Target homes that do not use utility natural gas
Pg. 44
Policy Analysis – Minnesota context
• Kushler, Marty. (2016). Analysis of the Policy Context and
Potential for an Air Source Heat Pump Pilot Program to be
Incorporated into Minnesota’s Energy Conservation Program
Structure for Cooperative Electric Utilities.
• mncee.org/heat_pumps
Pg. 45
ASHP Event w. Defrost
Pg. 46
Annual Energy Use and Costs
Baseline ccASHP Savings per Year
LP Use
(Gal) LP Cost
LP Use
(Gal) LP Cost
Elec. Use
(kWh)
Elec.
Cost Total Cost Cost [%]
Energy
(KBtu) Energy % Propane %
Site 1 1022 $1,320 372 $480 5,406 $649 $1,129
$191
[14%] 41,130 44% 64%
Site 2 928 $1,199 102 $131 5,978 $718 $849
$350
[29%] 55,338 65% 89%
Site 3 1123 $1,450 539 $696 4,051 $487 $1,183
$267
[18%] 39,606 39% 52%
• Payback? TBD! Still gathering data on the incremental cost of replacement
• Assumed costs: LP $1.29/gal, Electric $0.12/kWh

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Cold Cliamte Air Source Heat Pumps: Study Update

  • 1. Cold Climate Air Source Heat Pumps: Study Update Ben Schoenbauer, Senior Research Engineer Better Buildings: Better Business Conference March 2, 2017
  • 2. Pg. 2 What We Do • Energy Program Design & Delivery • Engineering Services • Lending Center • Public Policy • Research • Education and Outreach
  • 3. Pg. 3 Acknowledgements • These projects are supported in part by grants from the Minnesota Department of Commerce, Division of Energy Resources through a Conservation Applied Research and Development (CARD) program • The heat pump project was also supported by Great River Energy and the Electric Power Research Institute
  • 4. Pg. 4 Learn about… • The energy savings potential for ASHPs, as well as the potential for offsetting the reliance on delivered fuels in areas where natural gas is unavailable • The differences in ASHP installed performance compared to the manufacturer specified performance • The applicability of both technologies to Minnesota’s housing stock and the process that can be used to determine where the best potential exists for each technology
  • 5. Pg. 5 www.mncee.org Cold Climate Air Source Heat Pump Field Assessment
  • 6. Pg. 6 Agenda • Cold Climate Air Source Heat Pump • What is different? • Opportunity • Installation and operation • Preliminary results • Conclusions
  • 7. Pg. 7 Cold Climate Air-Source Heat Pump? • An ASHP uses a refrigerant system involving a compressor, condenser, and evaporator to absorb heat at one place and release it at another. • Delivery of both heating and cooling via forced air distribution • New generation systems can operate as low as -13 °F • ASHPs have the potential to deliver energy and peak saving as well as reduce reliance on delivered fuels.
  • 8. Pg. 8 Opportunity • Winter of 2013/2014 saw delivered fuel shortages in MN • Delivered fuel expensive or unavailable • Compensation with electric resistance space heaters • Market: • Delivered fuel are the primary space heating fuel for more than 40% of homes in MN, IA, SD, ND (RECS, 2009) • Over 25% of Midwest homes rely on fuels other than natural gas for space heating (RECS, 2009) • Over 47% of homes in the US rely on fuels other than natural gas for space heating (RECS, 2009)
  • 9. Pg. 9 • Primary Heating with LP1 • Metro, < 4% • Outstate, up to 40% • Primary Heat Sources2 • Utility gas, 67% • Electricity, 16% • LP, 10% • Fuel Oil, 3% • Wood, 3% Source: Levenson-Faulk, Annie. 2015. “Propane Conversion Strategies: Energy Alternatives for Minnesota Users of Propane Gas.” St. Paul, MN: Legislative Energy Commission 1 U.S. Census Bureau. American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates - 2009-2013 2 U.S. Census Bureau. American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates - 2010-2014 Opportunity - Minnesota
  • 11. Pg. 11 Study Overview • Field Study • 6 ccASHP in a variety of MN residences • 3 installed for the 2015-2016 heating season • Monitor installed field performance of ASHP and backup • Incorporate into Conservation Improvement Program (CIP) • Climate zones 6 & 7
  • 12. Pg. 12 Instrumentation 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 11 12 13 14 15 Power Measurements: 1) Outdoor unit 2) Indoor unit 3) Indoor fan 4) Reversing valve Temperatures: 5) Supply Air 6) Return Air 7) Mechanical area ambient 8) Conditioned space Additional: 9) Back up fuel consumption 10) Delivered air flow 11) NOAA data
  • 13. Pg. 13 Installation • Important Issues: • Equipment • Sizing • Operation • Integration with back-up systems
  • 14. Pg. 14 Site Equipment Site Number ASHP System ASHP Size ASHP Type Backup 1* Carrier Infinity with Greenspeed [25VNA048A003] 4 ton Ducted LP Cond. Furnace 2* Bryant Extreme Heat Pump [280ANV048] 4 ton Ducted LP Cond. Furnace 3* Carrier Infinity with Greenspeed [25VNA036A003] 3 ton Ducted LP 80% Furnace 4 Trane XV20i [4TWV0036A] 3 ton Ducted LP Cond. Furnace 5 Mitsibishi Ductless Hyper Heat [MUZ-FH18NAH] 1.5 ton Ductless Electric Resistance 6 Mitsibishi Ductless Hyper Heat [MSZ-FH12NA] 1 ton (2 units) Ductless Electric Resistance * Installed during 2015-2016 heating season
  • 15. Pg. 15 Manufacturer Specified Performance NEEP | Cold Climate Heat Pump Specification
  • 16. Pg. 16 Cold Climate Specification
  • 17. Pg. 17 System Design: Sizing The OAT for the systems to switch to back up: 4 ton ~3 F 3 ton ~10 F 2 ton ~19F Percentage of heating load meet by ASHP: 4 ton ~ 86%, 3 ton ~ 77% 2 ton ~ 60% 3 °F 10 °F 19 °F 3 ton 4 ton 2 ton House heating load Targeted a maximum change-over temp of 10 F
  • 18. Pg. 18 Operation • Switchover set point: • Ducted Systems: 10 degrees F • Ductless Systems: -13 degrees F • Controls: • Ducted Systems: automated controls to bring up backup • Ductless Systems: manual action by homeowner • Interaction with back-up systems • Ducted Systems: Integrated installs with shared controls • Ductless Systems: Separate systems
  • 19. Pg. 19 Furnace Integration – Keep or Replace? • Issues: • Air handler requires a multi-stage fan to achieve the full capability of the ccASHPs • Furnace and heat pump require integrated controls • Proposed Solutions: • New condensing furnace with control integration • New 80% AFUE with multi-stage fan with control integration • Retrofit existing system (future?) • Plenum electric resistance heater
  • 23. Pg. 23 System Operation • Heating system has 3 modes of operation • ASHP heating • Furnace heating • Defrost Outdoor Fan OFF Refrigerant in reverse Furnace ONDefrost
  • 24. Pg. 24 ASHP and Furnace Cycle Efficiency, Site 2 • Without propane: • COPs 1.5 to 3.5 • Furnace SS Efficiency • 90% + • Defrost reduces COP to < 0.5 • ASHP lockout at 10 F
  • 26. Pg. 26 System COP vs Furnace runtime
  • 27. Pg. 27 ASHP Performance • Rated COPs of 3.0-3.5 at 47 F • COP observed • 1.5-3.5 (site 1 & 2) • 1-3.5 (site 3)
  • 28. Pg. 28 Example: Capacity on a 17 ⁰F day At 18:45 OAT = 15 F House load = 15,300 Btu/hr ASHP Output = 16,700 Btu/hr ASHP Sup Temp = 89 F Airflow = 734 CFM
  • 33. Pg. 33 Ducted v Ductless • Heat pump only events have comparable COPs • Ducted systems • have larger capacities than single head ductless • have larger airflows • Ductless systems • provided a smaller fraction of the homes energy (by design) • operated at lower outdoor temperatures
  • 36. Pg. 36 Energy Use Vs OAT Models
  • 37. Pg. 37 Preliminary Results • Compared to LP furnaces the ccASHPs • Reduced between 40% and 65% of site energy consumption • Reduced total heating costs 19% to 35% • On average ccASHP met 84% of the homes heating loads • Reduced propane consumption by around 60%, up to 89% at one site • Compared to Electric Resistance Heat • Provided more efficient space heating (COP of 1.6, compared to 1.0) • Savings are largely dependent on usage and install location
  • 38. Pg. 38 Conclusions • Systems should sized for heating, typically results in 1-ton larger system that if sized for cooling • With proper sizing ccASHPs are capable of meeting the loads in typical MN homes at or below 10 ⁰F outdoor temps. • Preliminary results show ccASHP COPs of 1.5-3.5 and annual system COPs between 1.4 and 1.8.
  • 39. Pg. 39 Conclusions: LP • ccASHPs will reduce delivered fuel consumption enough to avoid costly winter refueling in most MN homes. • 60% to 89% reduction • Estimate annual usage of for a most homes should be under 375 gal
  • 40. Pg. 40 Future Needs • There is still room for improvement: • Reduce unnecessary back-up heating • Defrost? • Lower change over point? • Reduce upfront installation costs • Systems with new furnaces cost $15,000 • New LP furnaces with modulating fans ~$5,500 • NREL database ccASHP only ~$7,000 • Costs are much higher than incremental equipment costs compared to AC systems
  • 43. Pg. 43 Policy Analysis – Minnesota context • Lack of structure for achieving delivered fuel savings from ccASHPs for electric utilities • The fuel switching concern – should not apply in these scenarios • Precedents: low income CIP • New program suggestions • Net BTU analysis • Target homes that do not use utility natural gas
  • 44. Pg. 44 Policy Analysis – Minnesota context • Kushler, Marty. (2016). Analysis of the Policy Context and Potential for an Air Source Heat Pump Pilot Program to be Incorporated into Minnesota’s Energy Conservation Program Structure for Cooperative Electric Utilities. • mncee.org/heat_pumps
  • 45. Pg. 45 ASHP Event w. Defrost
  • 46. Pg. 46 Annual Energy Use and Costs Baseline ccASHP Savings per Year LP Use (Gal) LP Cost LP Use (Gal) LP Cost Elec. Use (kWh) Elec. Cost Total Cost Cost [%] Energy (KBtu) Energy % Propane % Site 1 1022 $1,320 372 $480 5,406 $649 $1,129 $191 [14%] 41,130 44% 64% Site 2 928 $1,199 102 $131 5,978 $718 $849 $350 [29%] 55,338 65% 89% Site 3 1123 $1,450 539 $696 4,051 $487 $1,183 $267 [18%] 39,606 39% 52% • Payback? TBD! Still gathering data on the incremental cost of replacement • Assumed costs: LP $1.29/gal, Electric $0.12/kWh

Editor's Notes

  1. I’ve been at the Center for Energy and Environment for a month shy of 10 years and I am currently a Senior Research Engineer. But instead of talking about my background I’d like to say a bit about our organization. CEE is a nonprofit that is involved in a variety of energy efficiency services including program design & delivery; engineering services; research; education & outreach; public policy; and loans. For example, the One-Stop Efficiency Shop lighting program has worked with over 10k businesses resulting in a reduction of over 100 MW of demand We have served over 25,000 residents through our single and MF programs CEE has originated more than 25,000 loans resulting in over $190 million in community rehabilitation Our research tends to focus on emerging technologies or services to improve our programs. For example, we ran the sound insulation program to treat about 13,000 house around the Minneapolis airport and through that program came our interest in combustion safety testing of water heaters and furnaces – and out of that grew our interest in power and direct vent combination systems as an alternative to natural draft appliances. That was also an interest of the LIWX agencies in our area who were installing high efficiency furnaces and then had to deal with orphan water heaters that often had a spillage problem, but they could only replace these with minimum efficiency power-vent water heaters. Center for Energy and Environment also focuses on creating opportunities to communicate research and knowledge to energy and building experts through… webinars, forums, blogs posts, and social media as well as data visualizations and other tools that help make information more applicable.
  2. Under “research” click on the link for “research Projects” to get the 1-page summary for these studies Also find results on the DER’s website.
  3. The outdoor unit includes an outdoor heat exchanger (1), a compressor (2) and a fan. The indoor unit contains an indoor heat exchanger (3) and a fan (4) that distributes warm or cool air to your duct system.
  4. Propane conservation strategies - legislative energy commission
  5. Definitely an incomplete list Most rebates are cooling dominated and do not reflect the full benefit of the heating capabilities of new ccASHPs Most rebates also require electricity to be primary heating fuel
  6. Monitor installed field performance of ASHP and backup Installed performance (COP, capacity, etc) Installed energy savings vs backup Customer satisfaction and delivered comfort Degree Day (yearly) and Design temps Duluth 9325 (HDD), -18 (winter), 84 (dry bulb summer), 70 (wet bulb summer) Minneapolis 7,472 (HDD), -11 (winter), 91 (dry bulb summer), 73(wet bulb summer) Rochester 7,868 (HDD), -13 (winter), 88 (dry bulb summer), 73 (wet bulb summer)
  7. Switchover set point: 10 degrees F Controls: automated controls to bring up backup Interaction with back-up systems Integrated installs with shared controls
  8. Ductless systems cannot operate below -13F. Typical installs do not lock them out. They will produce heat whenever possible. If they do not produce enough heat, the back up source will provide the additional heat. The only reason you would lock out a ductless system is if the delivered air temperature was too cool (ie heating the space with 80F air may “feel” cold) or your back-up became more efficient or less costly than the ASHP.
  9. Issues: Air handler requires a multi-stage fan to achieve the full capability of the ccASHPs Most 80% AFUE and older condensing furnaces have a fixed fan speed Furnace and heat pump require integrated controls Solutions include: 1) installing a new condensing furnace (expensive), 2) retrofit existing fan (possible, but has several challenges), 3) installing a new low cost (80%) furnace with a better fan (multi-stage), in some cases installing electric resistance booster heat (expensive to install to meet load below switch over) is possible
  10. Heat event time range (minutes): Defrost  ASPH LP Furn eff if fist 12 min not SS Min 5.0 5.0 9.3 Q1 14.1 10.2 14.4 Median 22.1 10.2 19.4 0.807376 Q3 41.0 20.1 34.5 0.84785 Max 125.7 100.1 842.6 *Defrost cycle length above account for whole time the outdoor unit is on, so that means even when the HP is running in heating mode and the defrost kicks in for a little while. Just defrost (min) Min 2.2 Q1 3.7 Median 4.9 Q3 5.3 Max 8.9 --an event starts when out air is being delivered and stops when the airflow stops (fan stops). That means that an event with propane and ASHP use can have the systems running back to back in series, not necessarily in parallel -Reasons for fuel use above 15F - ASHP in freeze protection - controls to boost system capacity with propane (?) - controls to get a warmer delivered air temp (?) -an event starts when out air is being delivered and stops when the airflow stops. That means that an event with propane and ASHP use can have the systems running back to back in series, not necessarily in parallel -Reasons for fuel use above 15F - ASHP in freeze protection -freeze protection efficiencies below 80% due to heating/defrosting the outdoor coil. -Furnace efficiency is also impacted by ashp. Larger coil on the indoor unit increases the transient time for these systems. Often take as long as 10 minute cycles before reaching s-s eff
  11. Overall goals in Minnesota from the Next Generation Energy Act of 2007 to reduce the use of fossil fuels per capita 2015 – Propane Bill, allowing for natural gas to heat a building where not previously available. Most fuel switching issues have been centered around electric and natural gas, so should not be an issue
  12. ACEEE paper includes ~2 page summary of policy work https://www.mncee.org/getattachment/Resources/Projects/Cold-Climate-Air-Source-Heat-Pump-Field-Assessment/ACEEE-Co-opASHP-Report_Final_2016-06-23.pdf.aspx
  13. Cheap propone built into these assumptions. The cost benefit sky rockets if propane costs go up