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1. I FC L A
H els ink i, 10-11 J une 2010
L eg a l C ouns el / A dvok a t
L a urits A . J ørg ens en
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2. • Introduction to Carlsberg Group and Carlsberg Group Legal
• Case Study:
• Background: Carlsberg’s European IT outsourcing set-up and strategy
(timeline)
• Renegotiation and partly retendering – why? A process!
• Carlsberg’s perception of “expected vs. realized” benefits of outsourcing
and; why did we end up in this situation?
• Focus on quality
• Focus on pricing structure and savings
• Change in scope of the outsourcing agreement and change in Carlsberg’s
European IT organisation
• What triggered the wish for renegotiation?
• Renegotiation – the timeline and process
• Preparation
• The Result - what did the parties get?
• The Result – learnings from a legal perspective
• Questions?
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3. This is Carlsberg Group today
No. 1
in Northern & Eastern Europe and
fourth largest brewer in the world
150
markets around the world
500
different beer brands
43,000
employees on three continents
12,000,000,000
Litres of beer sold in 2009
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4. Carlsberg geography (2009)
A balance between growth markets + mature markets
NORTHERN AND WESTERN EASTERN EUROPE ASIA
EUROPE
43% 44% 13%
OF TOTAL VOLUME OF TOTAL VOLUME OF TOTAL VOLUME
41% 52% 7%
OF EBIT OF EBIT OF EBIT
Beer volume: 50.2 m.hl Beer volume: 51.3 m.hl Beer volume: 14.5 m.hl
Net revenue: DKK 36.5bn Net revenue: DKK 18.5bn Net revenue: DKK 4.2bn
EBITDA: DKK 6.4bn EBITDA: DKK 6.6bn EBITDA: 0.9bn
Operating profit: DKK 4.2bn Operating profit: DKK 5.3bn Operating profit: DKK 666m
OBJECTIVE
Improve competitiveness Ensure profitable growth Build growth platform
and earnings
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5. Carlsberg Group Legal (HQ)
• 7 qualified lawyers (Danish, Scottish and German). App. 25 lawyers based
in subsidiaries around the world.
• Each lawyer has certain key account responsibilities within HQ. For me
those are:
• Carlsberg IT: Projects, outsourcing, software purchase, consultant
agreements
• Group Supply Chain: Transfer Pricing / Inter-company Services,
Sourcing and Licensing Agreements
• Real Property: Development of closed brewery sites and sale/lease of
real property
• Export, License & Duty Free (ExLiD): international license production
agreements, brewing/filling agreements and distribution agreements
with third parties
• Each lawyer has specific country responsibilities – day to day contact with
subsidiary lawyers (Germany, Belgium, Switzerland, Italy, India, Nepal and
Sri Lanka)
• Projects: M/A, etc.
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6. Carlsberg’s European IT outsourcing
set-up and strategy - timeline
• June 2005: Outsourcing Agreement signed with IBM Danmark
• 2005 – 2007: Transition and transformation based on fixed prices
• 2008 – 2009: Day to day services based on a combination of fixed and
variable prices
• 2009 – 2010: renegotiation and partly retendering
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7. Carlsberg’s European IT outsourcing
set-up and strategy
2005 Outsourcing Agreement covered:
• Services
• Network Services
• Data Centre Services
• Desktop Services
• Service Desk
• Scope
• 7 years
• 11 countries in Europe
• App. 1000 servers
• App. 7500 users
• App. 170 locations
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8. Carlsberg’s European IT outsourcing
set-up and strategy - renegotiation
Why renegotiate in 2009/2010? – the timing was right:
• Need for a changes in the pricing structure (after ended
transformation/consolidation)
• General focus on savings
• Focus on quality (problems in specific delivery areas, processes and
governance structures)
• Need for access to innovation and new technology
• Change in scope (Business Standardisation Programme (BSP), Scottish &
Newcastle acquisition)
• Other….
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9. Carlsberg’s perception of “expected vs.
realized” benefits of outsourcing (first 2-3 years)
High
?
Realised effect of outsourcing
Standardization and consolidation
Cost savings and transparency on IT cost
Free-up of CB resources
Access to new technology
Access to resources and competencies
Higher quality of IT Services
Low
Low Expected effect of Outsourcing High
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10. Why did we end up in this situation?
Many reasons but bottom line was that fixing it would require changes on both
sides - including proper legal follow-up!
Carlsberg IT Service Provider
Lack in fixing
service delivery
Lack of focus on issues
Lack of proper
contract service quality Lack of focus on
Commitment to
management delivered by service quality
improve quality
service provider
?
Act as a partner Not enough Investing in
focus on improvements
processes High
Immature Act as a partner
organisation
Revisit of
Realised effect of outsourcing
sourcing Standardization and consolidation
strategy
Cost savings and transparency on IT cost
Free-up of CB resources
Access to new technology
Access to resources and competencies
Higher quality of IT Services
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Low Expected effect of Outsourcing High
11. Focus on quality (1)
• Quality issues discussed over a period of time 2008/2009:
• Network Services (remedy plan executed in 2008/2009)
• RFS process
• Discussions on scope of services (alignment of expectations of both
Service Provider and Carlsberg)
• Security / back-up – more focus on IT security from Carlsberg
• Price needs to match Quality?!
• What to do from a contract management (legal) point of view?
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12. Focus on quality – Network Services –
example of an article in the Danish Business
Journal
• Carlsberg lider tab efter it-nedbrud (www.borsen.dk) (IT break down (”Network Services”))
• 14-10-2009 13:11 af Mia Salling
• Det her er ikke godt nok, og det har store konsekvenser for Carlsberg. Så kontant er meldingen fra Carlsbergs CEO Kenneth Egelund Schmidt, efter at
bryggerigigantens IBM-it-systemer i nat gik ned. Visse dele er stadig ikke oppe at køre.
Borsen.dk erfarer, at Carlsberg har en aftale med IBM om, at der i tilfælde af it-nedbrud er et backup-system, som skal overtage med det samme,
men at dette ikke er sket efter nattens nedbrud.
"It er et meget kritisk område for os. Vores leveringsapparat har været fuldstændig ramt, og vi bruger mange kræfter manuelt for at kompensere for
det. Det vil betyde et driftstab," siger Kenneth Egelund Schmidt til borsen.dk.
Hvor stort et tab det løber op i, vil direktøren dog ikke give et bud på.
"Jeg vil afvente og se regnskabet, når vi har gjort op, hvad tabet får af økonomiske konsekvenser".
Ifølge Borsen.dk's oplysninger er det er Carlsbergs SAP-økonomisystem og mail, der har været ramt, men nu kører igen.
Dataanalyse- og kundestyringssystemerne kører efter sigende stadig ikke.
It-nedbruddet var forårsaget af en strømafbrydelse hos leverandøren IBM, som også lammede dankortsystemerne samt Mærsk og Danske Bank.
Muligt leverandørskift (”Potential change of Service Provider”)
Et lignende it-nedbrud fra IBM skete sidste år, hvor Carlsberg også var ramt, men Kenneth Egelund Smith vil ikke komme ind på, om
man hos Carlsberg har tænkt sig at skifte leverandør. Han afviser dog ikke helt tanken.
"Selvfølgelig er det noget, man overvejer, når man har en leverandør, der ikke lever op til aftalen, men nu vil vi afvente dialogen
med IBM. Det er en meget kompliceret ting at skifte leverandør, så det er ikke noget, man bare lige gør."
Kræver kompensation (”Compensation”)
IBM skal ifølge Kenneth Egelund Schmidt dog ikke slippe alt for billigt.
"Da vi får driftstab ved det her, vil vi kræve kompensation."
Han understreger, at IBM siden sidste års nedbrud har forsøgt at råde bod på skaderne, men at der stadig er plads til forbedringer.
"De krav, som vi har stillet til stabile systemer, er ikke indfriet endnu. Resultaterne er ikke kommet i den hast, som Carlsberg har
ønsket sig, og det taler vi fortsat med IBM om," siger CEO'en.
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13. Change in pricing structure / focus
on savings
• The need for a simpler and more transparent pricing structure (fixed and
variable prices)
• What services do the fixed prices cover?
• Resource Units (“RU”) – more detailed descriptions of the services
included in specific prices (SAP / Server Capacity / Housing)
• Request for Services (“RFS”) process – more detailed described one-
time-charges, IMACs (changes/support) and Technical Catalogue
Requests (“TCR”).
• More centralized invoicing to apply to centrally delivered services,
including specification of invoice base for a specific month and
described process to ensure correct invoicing
• SAVINGS!
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14. Change in future scope of the
Outsourcing Agreement
• Business Standardisation Programme (BSP)
• “One Tap – Different Flavours” – (“Faster, Smarter, Leaner”)
• Processes (end-to-end process)
• IT (common IT systems (SAP etc.))
• Organisation
• Governance
• BSP is being rolled out over the next 3 years in Western Europe, Nordic and South
Eastern Europe
• BSP is setting the future with a common IT platform (strategic importance to both a
Service Provider and Carlsberg)
• It’s a huge project!
• Scottish & Newcastle acquisition:
• New countries in Western Europe, Brasseries Kronenbourg (France) & Mythos
Brewery, (Greece)
• New countries in Eastern Europe (potential future scope), Baltika (Russia),
Slavutitch (Ukraine), Derbes (Kazakhstan), Carlsberg Uzbekistan.
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15. Carlsberg’s European IT outsourcing
strategy – internal changes
• Carlsberg IT has initiated a consolidation project named "One-CIT". This
project covers most European countries (17):
• The overall objectives are:
• Enable and support the "GloCalisation" of IT.
• Improve competitiveness and earnings in Northern and Western Regions in Europe.
• To use full potential of IT resources in Europe.
• To be able to support the future European Carlsberg business model.
• To create transparency of IT costs across Europe.
• To get the most of out the money spend on IT.
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16. Carlsberg’s European IT outsourcing
strategy – changes
• These objectives drive a need for changes to the future IT outsourcing
strategy for the Carlsberg Group:
• Single / multi sourcing
• Country / region specific?
• Specific on type of services?
• Larger scope
• Etc.
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17. What triggered the wish for
renegotiation / retendering?
• The key triggers for Carlsberg:
• Savings;
• Quality;
• Scope; and
• One-CIT
• Timing is essential! The timing has to be planned in details from both a technical and
legal perspective
• Which “tools” are available in the Outsourcing Agreement?
• Default situations;
• Proactive Remedies, Trigger Events
• Benchmarking
• Price negotiation triggers
• Carlsberg had with the 2005 Outsourcing Agreement good “tools” and a good
basis for the negotiation of a strengthened new agreement!
• Ole Horsfeldt, Gorrissen Federspiel, acts as external IT-lawyer for Carlsberg
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18. Renegotiation – the timeline and
process
• 2008 – quality issues – the parties are in “legal mode”
• 2009 – Benchmarking – the importance of having an useable benchmarking
mechanism in place
• Mid 2009 – price negotiations phase 1:
• Try to set the scene and try to take the driver’s seat as customer
• Set out clear goals
• Set a tight timeline
• Structured process!
• End 2009 / beginning 2010 – price negotiations phase 2:
• Change from pure price negotiations to;
• Change of scope
• Extension of Term
• Change of sourcing strategy (Multi sourcing)
• More Service Providers being brought into the process on equal terms
and conditions (BSP / other countries)
• Possible to make price comparisons on specific services
• Pressure on prices with more bidders
• Sanity check!
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19. Carlsberg worked during 2008/2009 with
the Service Provider to identify where to
focus …
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20. … and Carlsberg made adjustments
internally (to organisation and strategy)
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21. The result – the new Outsourcing
Agreement
What did the Service Provider get……:
• Extended Term until end 2016 – 4 more years
• Extended scope BSP (future platform)
• Transparency in pricing structure and more detailed definitions, RUs etc. (to the benefit of both
parties)
What did Carlsberg get……:
• Better prices
• Change of scope – all Network Services (except of internal data centre network) taken out of the
scope as of end 2010 (planned). Carlsberg is in a tender process to find a new service provider at
the moment
• More legal / commercial tools to drive better quality – some are:
• Strengthened Proactive Remedies
• Updated Fast Track Dispute Resolution
• Clearer calculation of Termination Charges / Hardware Residual fees in case of termination for
convenience
• Strengthened provisions on cooperation obligations btw. difference service providers (multi
sourcing (new Network provider))
• Improved technology and innovation provisions (Service Provider to be more proactive)
• RFS governance and process
• Strengthened benchmarking provision (made more clear and useable)
• Strengthened audit provisions (Carlsberg Internal Audit)
• Improved penalty system based on objective KPIs and SLAs
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22. “Carlsberg chooses IBM again despite NW
break downs”
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23. The result – learnings from a legal
perspective
• Don’t underestimate the need for extensive preparation of the process and the need
for allocation of right resources (internal / external)
• Don’t hesitate to go in “legal mode” – the tools already negotiated are there to be
used!!
• The Legal function should be part of the contract management team and participate
in relevant meetings (be part of the governance structure)
• Plan to renegotiate (i) after transformation/transition and (ii) every app. 2-3 years –
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• Negotiate the “standard terms” in the main agreement as soon as possible in the
process
• Be part of as many work streams as possible during the process – including in the
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(schedules)
• It is the experience that commercial/technical resources do not always use the
correct definitions in e.g. technical RUs which can lead to misunderstandings and
disputes…..
• Set up a document handling system (sharepoint or similar) so that all involved parties
negotiate and work on the correct document versions!!
• Other…
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