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PhD-education in a 'publish or
perish' perspective
K. K. Haugen
Molde University College
NORWAY

The 1st. Research School Conference
NHH – Bergen, August 28-29, 2009
Outline
• Focus on scientific publishing as a part
of PhD-education
• Is it good?
• Does it produce better PhD’s?
• If not, why?
• What to do…..
”publish or perish”
Publish or perish
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Publish or perish" refers to the pressure to publish
work constantly to further or sustain a career in academia.
The competition for tenure-track faculty positions in
academia puts increasing pressure on scholars to publish
new work frequently.
”publish or perish”- the origin
Origin
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The phrase is thought to have originated around 1950 with,
Dr. Kimball C. Atwell III, then a geneticist at Columbia
University. Ironically, Atwood never published the phrase
himself; thus, evidence of his coining the phrase remains
anecdotal. As the story goes, Atwood had only to wait a month
before he heard it delivered in an address by a visiting lecturer,
who afterward told Atwood he heard the phrase from a participant
in Atwood's originating conversation.
’Research’
• Answers to previous questions need
some notion on what research and
hence (PhD) - research education is
about
• Personally I would like:
– Research:

90% creativity
10% publishing
PhD’s now and before
• Now: 4 papers, published either at
conferences or (best) in scientific
journals
• Previously: A monograph totally
unpublished (just like mine finished in
1991)
The publishing process:
• Lengthy – a typical example (one of my relatively recent papers):
– Initial submission:
– Referee reports (2):

5/10 – 2005
10/2 – 2006 (not bad!)

– Resubmission:
– Referee reports (accept):

23/5 – 2006
22/2 – 2007 (rather bad!)

– Proofing:
– Back and forth:

11/4 – 2007
15/2 – 2008 (not typical!)

– April 2008:
≅ 3 years

:

Published! (not bad at all)
PhD scholarship 3-4 years
Publishing – consequences (1)
• The fact that it takes time, of course makes
up some obvious logistical problems for PhDstudents; it is perhaps better to go for a ”bad”
journal or a special issue?
• Both would normally increase acceptance
probability as well as minimize process time.
(a ”good” strategy?)
Publishing – consequences (2)
• Far more serious:
– Again, my sample is limited, but in my experience,
none (of more than 20 papers I have written and
published) have changed at all (as a consequence
of refereeing) related to:’
•
•
•
•

Ideas
Methodolgy
Mathematical modelling
Conclusions
Publishing is not creative
• Hence, I would say that the publishing
process itself is the opposite of beeing
creative. I would use words like:
– Boring
– Detailed
– Lengthy
– Tedious
– Not funny at all
Modern PhD’s
• 3,4 or 5 papers. Many have been through
conferences some are published, typically in
bad journals, supervisor is very often coauthor on most papers (who has done what?)
• Very few ideas, typically, one basic
mathematical model described in different
ways with small tweaks and twists in different
papers
• Is this good research? Is this a system
making good researchers? Where are the
good ideas?
Conclusions:
• I am very sceptical to the kind of PhDeducation we seem to observe today
• Keep creativity by minimizing publishing within PhDprogrammes.
• Let PhD-students take chances, risk something, and
even fail.
• Be extremely careful with supervisor co-authorship.
• ”Publish or perish” comes soon enough – after the PhDdefence.
• Let the ”young” (and still) creative students be creative
while they (still) have the potential.

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Bergen2009

  • 1. PhD-education in a 'publish or perish' perspective K. K. Haugen Molde University College NORWAY The 1st. Research School Conference NHH – Bergen, August 28-29, 2009
  • 2. Outline • Focus on scientific publishing as a part of PhD-education • Is it good? • Does it produce better PhD’s? • If not, why? • What to do…..
  • 3. ”publish or perish” Publish or perish From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "Publish or perish" refers to the pressure to publish work constantly to further or sustain a career in academia. The competition for tenure-track faculty positions in academia puts increasing pressure on scholars to publish new work frequently.
  • 4. ”publish or perish”- the origin Origin From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The phrase is thought to have originated around 1950 with, Dr. Kimball C. Atwell III, then a geneticist at Columbia University. Ironically, Atwood never published the phrase himself; thus, evidence of his coining the phrase remains anecdotal. As the story goes, Atwood had only to wait a month before he heard it delivered in an address by a visiting lecturer, who afterward told Atwood he heard the phrase from a participant in Atwood's originating conversation.
  • 5. ’Research’ • Answers to previous questions need some notion on what research and hence (PhD) - research education is about • Personally I would like: – Research: 90% creativity 10% publishing
  • 6. PhD’s now and before • Now: 4 papers, published either at conferences or (best) in scientific journals • Previously: A monograph totally unpublished (just like mine finished in 1991)
  • 7. The publishing process: • Lengthy – a typical example (one of my relatively recent papers): – Initial submission: – Referee reports (2): 5/10 – 2005 10/2 – 2006 (not bad!) – Resubmission: – Referee reports (accept): 23/5 – 2006 22/2 – 2007 (rather bad!) – Proofing: – Back and forth: 11/4 – 2007 15/2 – 2008 (not typical!) – April 2008: ≅ 3 years : Published! (not bad at all) PhD scholarship 3-4 years
  • 8. Publishing – consequences (1) • The fact that it takes time, of course makes up some obvious logistical problems for PhDstudents; it is perhaps better to go for a ”bad” journal or a special issue? • Both would normally increase acceptance probability as well as minimize process time. (a ”good” strategy?)
  • 9. Publishing – consequences (2) • Far more serious: – Again, my sample is limited, but in my experience, none (of more than 20 papers I have written and published) have changed at all (as a consequence of refereeing) related to:’ • • • • Ideas Methodolgy Mathematical modelling Conclusions
  • 10. Publishing is not creative • Hence, I would say that the publishing process itself is the opposite of beeing creative. I would use words like: – Boring – Detailed – Lengthy – Tedious – Not funny at all
  • 11. Modern PhD’s • 3,4 or 5 papers. Many have been through conferences some are published, typically in bad journals, supervisor is very often coauthor on most papers (who has done what?) • Very few ideas, typically, one basic mathematical model described in different ways with small tweaks and twists in different papers • Is this good research? Is this a system making good researchers? Where are the good ideas?
  • 12. Conclusions: • I am very sceptical to the kind of PhDeducation we seem to observe today • Keep creativity by minimizing publishing within PhDprogrammes. • Let PhD-students take chances, risk something, and even fail. • Be extremely careful with supervisor co-authorship. • ”Publish or perish” comes soon enough – after the PhDdefence. • Let the ”young” (and still) creative students be creative while they (still) have the potential.