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Sean Tierney - RCSI & AMNCH, Tallaght, Dublin WMAI, Galway, October 2011 Surgical interventions in Chronic Wounds
Problem
Solution Moffat et al BMJ 1992
Limerick trial O'Brien et al Br J Surg 2003
Limerick trial - cost O'Brien et al Br J Surg 2003
Topical preparations http://www2.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab001103.html Last assessed as up-to-date: October 14. 2008
When healed ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
When healed ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Last assessed as up-to-date: August 23. 2000
Venous surgery * Gohel et al. B J Surg 2005 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Role of Surgery * Gohel et al. British Journal of Surgery 2005; 92: 291–297 Healing Recurrence
Role of surgery Superficial venous  disease
Causes of Ulceration ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],* O Brien et al. Ir J Med Sci 2000 17% Prevalence Overall  0.12% >70Y  1.03%
Arterial disease ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Arterial disease ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Lothian group, Callam et al, BMJ 1987
Quantifying arterial perfusion
What now ? ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Moffat et al BMJ 1992 * Cautiously & in consultation/agreed local protocol/guidelines
Arterial disease ,[object Object]
Arterial interventions ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Role of surgery Treat arterial disease Superficial venous  disease
Diabetes ESCHAR Lancet 2004
Diabetes ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Infection ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Hansson C  Acta Derm Venereol. 1995
Infection Inconclusive Last assessed as up-to-date: November 4. 2009
Treating infection ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Risk of malignancy ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Baldursson et al Br J Dermatol 1995
Risk of malignancy D R Miller et al  Phlebology 2004 0/35 9/24 4/17 (n=76) 0% 37% 24% Malignancy/ Bowens Inflammatory features Non-healing suspicious Indication
Exclude malignancy ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Biopsy
Biopsy ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],University  of Queensland
Role of surgery Malignancy Biopsy Treat arterial disease Superficial venous  disease
Progression/dermatitis ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Progression/dermatitis ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Dystrophic subcutaneous calcification Meidinger NEJM 2008
Role of surgery Malignancy Excision Calcification Biopsy Treat arterial disease Superficial venous  disease
Venous ulceration & lymphoedema ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Ramundo J WOCON 2005
Lymphoedema in vascular clinic ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Gethin et al 2010 (epub)
Venous ulceration & lymphoedema ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Ramundo J WOCON 2005
Accelerating healing ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Jones JE, Nelson EA. 2009
Role of surgery Malignancy Dystrophic  calcification Biopsy Excision &  grafting Treat arterial disease Superficial venous  disease
 
Indications for referral ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Indications for referral ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Indications for referral ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Indications for referral ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Indications for referral ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Indications for referral ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Indications for referral ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Referral pathways
Outreach clinic
 

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Wound management Association Ireland 2011

Editor's Notes

  1. Elevated ABIs often indicate vascular calcification and this will ferquently co-exist with neuropathy. These patients are at risk for neuropathic foot ulcers and should be screened. Toe pressure are a better measure of perfusion in this patient group. In general, in our wound care guidelines, we recommend referral of known diabetics with leg ulcers for a vascular surgery opinion. However, where the ABIs are normla and the pulss are easily palpable we would ususally proceed with compression therapy. We do not rely on ABIs in those without palpable pusles and check toes pressures which requires equipment not usually found in community clinics in Ireland.
  2. Bacterial contamination is common – no correlation between these results and the outcomes and there is no need to treat. In fact, there is no need to send swabs at all as this incurrs unecessary cost and increases the risk that patients will be inappropriately treated with antibiotics on eh absis of swab results.
  3. The vast majority of venous ulcers are benign. There is a risk of malignant transformation in long standing venous ulcers – the so called Marjolins ulcer. This is no common and typically would occur in a very long standing ulcer. It is much more common for a primary (or even metastatic skin cancer to be misdiagnosed or mistreated as a venous ulcer. It is not possible to exclude malignancy based on appearance of the ulcer and any ulcer that faisl to progress with compression therapy or fails to heal within a reasonable time period should have a punch biopsy performed under local anaesthesia. Where there are facilities and expertise, this could be done in a nurse lead clinic or other community setting but, at least in our healthcare system, this will usually require referral to a hospital setting. This data from professor Harding’s wound care group shows that the incidence of unsuspected malignancy is quite high. In this small study, the ulcers were divided into three groups based on the indication for biopsy. As you can see, the ulcers which did not look suspicious for malignancy were more likely to harbour either a cancer or in situ carcinoma. The lesson of this study, and the bitter lessons of experience in any leg ulcer clinic is to biopsy liberally. We would propose that any ulcer which does not progress in 8 weeks or heal in 12 weeks should be biopsied.
  4. A french group…
  5. A french group…