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MASTER
CLASS
VANCOUVER, BC ~ APRIL 25 - 26, 2024
DIGIMARCONCANADAWEST.CA | #DigiMarConCanadaWest
Podcast Marketing
Master Class
Roger Nairn
CO-FOUNDER AND CEO
JAR AUDIO
Podcast ROI: Aligning Business Goals with Brand Storytelling
Podcast ROI:
Aligning Business Goals with
Brand Storytelling
By Roger Nairn
CEO of JAR Audio
A Story
My biggest marketing failure.
I want you to avoid the same
mistakes I made.
• How to balance creative storytelling with your
marketing goals
• What unbalanced content looks like
• What balanced content looks like
• How to make your content perform better
You'll Learn
Hi, I'm Roger!
• 22+ years in advertising
• Agency owner
• Former TEDxVancouver board
member
• Live in Vancouver
Most of today's marketing content isn’t
doing the job it needs to do.
Content
Marketing content is either
overly creative.
Content
Marketing content is either
overly creative.
Or too focused on the brand.
There is a much better way.
Being the thing people enjoy
(Creativity)
Thesis
For your marketing to be successful,
You need to strike a balance between:
Being the thing people enjoy
(Creativity)
Your business objectives
(Business)
Thesis
For your marketing to be successful,
You need to strike a balance between:
Thesis
If you over index on business...
Thesis
If you over index on creativity...
How do you achieve balance?
Business
Be crystal clear on your
business objective.
Business
"Think with the end in mind."
—
Stephen Covey
Creativity
Create content that is:
• Empathetic
• Engaging
• Remarkable
Creativity
“We need to stop interrupting
what people are interested in
and be what people are
interested in.”
—
Craig Davis
Formerly of JWT
Creativity
"Whoever puts out the most
interesting content to capture
attention will
ultimately win.”
—
Nick Sharma
"The DTC Guy"
These are the stakes.
Balance
If you find the right balance the
outcome will be:
• A relationship is fostered
• You build trust with your audience
...and THAT will turn into business.
AirBnB
San Francisco tax
Rating
What would their seesaw rating be?
Rating
What would their seesaw rating be?
BUSINESS
CREATIVITY
Lottery
National Campaign
Lottery
What would the rating be?
Lottery
What would the rating be?
BUSINESS
CREATIVITY
Eggs
Cross-Border Campaign
Eggs
What would the rating be?
Eggs
What would the rating be?
BUSINESS
CREATIVITY
Skechers
Super Bowl
Skechers
What would the rating be?
Skechers
What would the rating be?
BUSINESS
CREATIVITY
Brand X
Super Bowl
Shift4Shop
What would the rating be?
Shift4Shop
What would the rating be?
BUSINESS
CREATIVITY
What does balance look like?
Amazon
Small business owners
Amazon
Host on the same journey
Amazon
This Is Small Business
Amazon
This Is Small Business
Amazon
Brand lift study
Amazon
What would the rating be?
Amazon
What would the rating be?
Cirque du Soleil
Shut down through COVID
Cirque du Soleil
Audience data (existing + new)
Cirque du Soleil
Tap into their creativity
Cirque du Soleil
Cirque du Sound
Cirque du Soleil
Creative guide
Cirque du Soleil
Engaging guests
Cirque du Soleil
Cirque du Sound
Cirque du Soleil
What would the rating be?
Cirque du Soleil
What would the rating be?
Lush
Targeting Gen Y & Z
Lush
Spoke to their social audience
Lush
Self Care & Social Justice
Lush
The Sound Bath
Lush
Engaging host
Lush
Enjoy in the bath...end with a
meditation
Lush
The Sound Bath
Lush
What would the rating be?
Lush
What would the rating be?
Actions you can take
Actions you can take
Conduct a quarterly review
of your content.
Put an image of a seesaw
up on your wall.
Judge if your content is
balanced.
Ask yourself:
"As a brand, are we a net
giver, or a net taker?"
"What unique knowledge
does our company have
that can be of value to our
audience?"
"Are we audience focused
or brand focused?"
Actions you can take
• Get clear on your business objective
• Understand your audience
• Be the thing that’s interesting
Recap
Balance
“Nobody reads ads. People read
what interested them, and
sometimes it’s an ad.”
—
Howard Luck Gossage
Copywriter
Balance
“Nobody reads ads. People read
what interested them, and
sometimes it’s an ad.”
—
Howard Luck Gossage
Copywriter
Balance
“Nobody reads ads. People read
what interested them, and
sometimes it’s an ad.”
—
Howard Luck Gossage
Copywriter
Balance
“Nobody reads ads. People read
what interested them, and
sometimes it’s an ad.”
—
Howard Luck Gossage
Copywriter
Balance
“Nobody reads ads. People read
what interested them, and
sometimes it’s an ad.”
—
Howard Luck Gossage
Copywriter
Balance
“Nobody reads ads. People read
what interested them, and
sometimes it’s an ad.”
—
Howard Luck Gossage
Copywriter
listens to a
brand's podcast listen to
a brand's podcast
Roger Nairn
Handsome Man
Amazing things happen when you stay balanced.
Thank you!
Roger Nairn, CEO of JAR Audio
Podcast Production Agency
jaraudio.com
Podcast Marketing Master Class - Roger Nairn

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Podcast Marketing Master Class - Roger Nairn