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How much time does an EMU or Electric Loco
save on the peninsula corridor from SJ to SF?
Aren't Electric Locos almost as good as EMUs?
Clem Tillier
clem@tillier.net
http://caltrain-hsr.blogspot.com
2017-02-26
Assumptions
Start at SJ Diridon
20 intermediate stops
End at SF 4th
& King
Speed limit = 79 mph (Case A) or 110 mph (Case B)
Station dwell = 45 sec
Schedule pad = 7%
Simulate 3 different trains:
Case 1 – Diesel – MP36 + 6 Bombardier cars + 600 pax
Mass = 488 t, Power = 2.7 MW
Power-to-weight = 5.5 kW/t, Adhesion factor 27%
Case 2 – Electric loco – Siemens ACS-64 + 6 Bombardier cars + 600 pax
Mass = 452 t, Power = 6.4 MW
Power-to-weight = 14.2 kW/t, Adhesion factor 22%
Case 3 – Electric multiple unit – Stadler KISS 6 + 600 pax
Mass = 382 t, Power = 6.0 MW
Power-to-weight = 15.7 kW/t, Adhesion factor 42%
Case 1 – Diesel Loco 79 mph
1:09:29 * 1.07 + 20 * 0:45 = 1:29:21
Case 2A – Electric Loco 79 mph
1:08:13 * 1.07 + 20 * 0:45 = 1:28:00
Case 2B – Electric Loco 110 mph
1:07:05 * 1.07 + 20 * 0:45 = 1:26:46
Case 3A – EMU 79 mph
56:26 * 1.07 + 20 * 0:45 = 1:15:23
Case 3B – EMU 110 mph
54:14 * 1.07 + 20 * 0:45 = 1:13:02
Why does Electric Loco suck?
● Rail friction coefficient is assumed 0.2 (rain)
● The electric loco's adhesion factor is low, which
prevents the available power from being laid to the rail.
– Diesel is adhesion-limited to 23 mph and out-pulls the
electric loco to that speed thanks to its higher weight on
driving axles
– Electric loco is adhesion-limited to 73 mph due to its low
weight on driving axles (98 t). At 43 mph it is only
laying down 3.8 MW to the rail... it is rarely able to use
its full power capability, and acts like a diesel
– EMU is adhesion-limited to 43 mph and can lay down a
full 6 MW above that speed. EMU reaches 43 mph in
about half the distance of the Electric Loco.
Acceleration side-by-side
EMU: reference time 2:18
0 – 79 mph standing start, timed to 2.5 miles on flat track
Electric loco: minus 20 sec
Diesel loco: minus 28 sec
Summary
Electric Loco provides less than 1/3 the trip time savings of EMU
110 mph speed limit doesn't help much compared to 79 mph
EMU is the right
technology choice
for Caltrain

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Diesel vs Elecloco_vs_emu

  • 1. How much time does an EMU or Electric Loco save on the peninsula corridor from SJ to SF? Aren't Electric Locos almost as good as EMUs? Clem Tillier clem@tillier.net http://caltrain-hsr.blogspot.com 2017-02-26
  • 2. Assumptions Start at SJ Diridon 20 intermediate stops End at SF 4th & King Speed limit = 79 mph (Case A) or 110 mph (Case B) Station dwell = 45 sec Schedule pad = 7% Simulate 3 different trains: Case 1 – Diesel – MP36 + 6 Bombardier cars + 600 pax Mass = 488 t, Power = 2.7 MW Power-to-weight = 5.5 kW/t, Adhesion factor 27% Case 2 – Electric loco – Siemens ACS-64 + 6 Bombardier cars + 600 pax Mass = 452 t, Power = 6.4 MW Power-to-weight = 14.2 kW/t, Adhesion factor 22% Case 3 – Electric multiple unit – Stadler KISS 6 + 600 pax Mass = 382 t, Power = 6.0 MW Power-to-weight = 15.7 kW/t, Adhesion factor 42%
  • 3. Case 1 – Diesel Loco 79 mph 1:09:29 * 1.07 + 20 * 0:45 = 1:29:21
  • 4. Case 2A – Electric Loco 79 mph 1:08:13 * 1.07 + 20 * 0:45 = 1:28:00
  • 5. Case 2B – Electric Loco 110 mph 1:07:05 * 1.07 + 20 * 0:45 = 1:26:46
  • 6. Case 3A – EMU 79 mph 56:26 * 1.07 + 20 * 0:45 = 1:15:23
  • 7. Case 3B – EMU 110 mph 54:14 * 1.07 + 20 * 0:45 = 1:13:02
  • 8. Why does Electric Loco suck? ● Rail friction coefficient is assumed 0.2 (rain) ● The electric loco's adhesion factor is low, which prevents the available power from being laid to the rail. – Diesel is adhesion-limited to 23 mph and out-pulls the electric loco to that speed thanks to its higher weight on driving axles – Electric loco is adhesion-limited to 73 mph due to its low weight on driving axles (98 t). At 43 mph it is only laying down 3.8 MW to the rail... it is rarely able to use its full power capability, and acts like a diesel – EMU is adhesion-limited to 43 mph and can lay down a full 6 MW above that speed. EMU reaches 43 mph in about half the distance of the Electric Loco.
  • 9. Acceleration side-by-side EMU: reference time 2:18 0 – 79 mph standing start, timed to 2.5 miles on flat track Electric loco: minus 20 sec Diesel loco: minus 28 sec
  • 10. Summary Electric Loco provides less than 1/3 the trip time savings of EMU 110 mph speed limit doesn't help much compared to 79 mph EMU is the right technology choice for Caltrain