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Entering the
Conversation
Think about an activity…
 Think about an activity that you do well—play
basketball, cook, even something like driving a
car.
 All of these activities require learning a series of
complicated moves, moves that may have been
difficult or foreign to you at first.
 The same goes for writing—good writers learn
a series of moves, which makes them strong
writers.
 Learning writers must learn these moves of
basic academic writing.
Stating your own idea as a
response to others
 “they say_____; I say __________.”
 This is the most important template we will
focus on
 It expresses not only where you get your ideas,
but where you are going with your own ideas
 Strong writers are constantly participating in a
discourse; this template allows us to
acknowledge what others have said
Establishing a context for the
thesis
 In academic writing, you are often asked
to respond to a particular text, argument,
etc.
 You may have to agree or disagree with
an argument, or extend or expand on it.
 No matter what you are asked to do with
an argument, you must always begin by
showing where your new ideas are
coming from. This is the polite and
academic thing to do.
May it
be my
turn to
share
an idea
please?
What is the context?
 The context is the background to your
argument.
 You need it as a springboard to launch
into your own argument.
 You also need it to show that you are
aware of the ongoing conversation
around you.
Figure 1
The characters in
The Sopranos are
very complex!
Why is he
telling us
this?
Yeah
so?!
Huh?
Figure 2
Some say that The
Sopranos presents
caricatures of Italian
Americans. However,
the characters in the
series are very complex!
Hmmm…
Good
point!
I never
thought of
that!
Excerpt from MLK’s “ Letter
from Birmingham Jail”
 MLK’s letter consists primarily of eloquent
responses to a public statement by 8 clergymen
deploring the civil rights protest he was leading.
 His letter is structured almost entirely of
summary and response.
 “You deplore the demonstrations taking place in
Birmingham. But your statement, I am sorry to
say, fails to express a similar concern for the
conditions that brought about these
demonstrations.”
Continued…
 His speech is so thoroughly structured,
that it almost plays out in this formula:
 King’s critics
 King’s response
 King’s critics
 King’s response
 And so forth
Example about American
patriotism
 Here’s an opening to an essay about American
patriotism by the social critic Katha Pollitt, who
uses her own daughter’s comment to represent
the national fervor of post 9/11 patriotism:
 “My daughter, who goes to high school only blocks away
from the former World Trade Center, thinks we should fly
the American flag out our window. Definitely not, I say:
The flag stands for jingoism and vengeance and war.
She tells me I’m wrong—the flag means standing
together and honoring the dead and saying no terrorism.
In a way we’re both right…
Ways of Responding
 From our textbook we will use a variety
of templates—ones that apply to
agreeing, disagreeing, and so forth.
 For example:
 She argues_______, and I agree
because_____________.”
 Her argument that ________ is supported
by research showing that___________.
 You will be expected to apply these
templates throughout your essays
It isn’t just a thesis statement
or part of your introduction…
 A good essay not only refers to the
author and text in the intro, but continues
to call back to the text/refer to it
throughout the entire essay.
 This shows that you are constantly
aware of your conversation, and that you
didn’t just waltz in and take over.
It’s all about me
and my
world!!!!You’re a
jerk!
Imagine how ignorant you
sound…
Amy Brown argues that it is
important to speak more than
one type of English. Great
idea Brown, thanks. Now
back to me…which reminds
me about me and this one
time me me
me….blahblahblahblahblahbl
albhalbhskfjslkajg…
Imagine how courteous and
smart you sound!
Brown argues that it is
necessary to speak more
than one English. That
reminds me of how I use
different Englishes when
I’m in different situations.
For example…
Hmmm…Brown also
mentions that the
language with her mother
is “intimate,” and even
how it has become the
way she speaks with her
boyfriend. I know I do the
same with my boyfriend.
For example,…
Wrap Up—Putting in your oar:
 As you can see, the point of establishing
the conversation gives you a place to
enter in a way that makes you seem like
a respectful and well read scholar.
 We do this as a way of agreeing,
disagreeing with others, or challenging a
standard way of thinking, or in other
words:
 TO START CONTROVERSY!!!

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  • 2. Think about an activity…  Think about an activity that you do well—play basketball, cook, even something like driving a car.  All of these activities require learning a series of complicated moves, moves that may have been difficult or foreign to you at first.  The same goes for writing—good writers learn a series of moves, which makes them strong writers.  Learning writers must learn these moves of basic academic writing.
  • 3. Stating your own idea as a response to others  “they say_____; I say __________.”  This is the most important template we will focus on  It expresses not only where you get your ideas, but where you are going with your own ideas  Strong writers are constantly participating in a discourse; this template allows us to acknowledge what others have said
  • 4. Establishing a context for the thesis  In academic writing, you are often asked to respond to a particular text, argument, etc.  You may have to agree or disagree with an argument, or extend or expand on it.  No matter what you are asked to do with an argument, you must always begin by showing where your new ideas are coming from. This is the polite and academic thing to do. May it be my turn to share an idea please?
  • 5. What is the context?  The context is the background to your argument.  You need it as a springboard to launch into your own argument.  You also need it to show that you are aware of the ongoing conversation around you.
  • 6. Figure 1 The characters in The Sopranos are very complex! Why is he telling us this? Yeah so?! Huh?
  • 7. Figure 2 Some say that The Sopranos presents caricatures of Italian Americans. However, the characters in the series are very complex! Hmmm… Good point! I never thought of that!
  • 8. Excerpt from MLK’s “ Letter from Birmingham Jail”  MLK’s letter consists primarily of eloquent responses to a public statement by 8 clergymen deploring the civil rights protest he was leading.  His letter is structured almost entirely of summary and response.  “You deplore the demonstrations taking place in Birmingham. But your statement, I am sorry to say, fails to express a similar concern for the conditions that brought about these demonstrations.”
  • 9. Continued…  His speech is so thoroughly structured, that it almost plays out in this formula:  King’s critics  King’s response  King’s critics  King’s response  And so forth
  • 10. Example about American patriotism  Here’s an opening to an essay about American patriotism by the social critic Katha Pollitt, who uses her own daughter’s comment to represent the national fervor of post 9/11 patriotism:  “My daughter, who goes to high school only blocks away from the former World Trade Center, thinks we should fly the American flag out our window. Definitely not, I say: The flag stands for jingoism and vengeance and war. She tells me I’m wrong—the flag means standing together and honoring the dead and saying no terrorism. In a way we’re both right…
  • 11. Ways of Responding  From our textbook we will use a variety of templates—ones that apply to agreeing, disagreeing, and so forth.  For example:  She argues_______, and I agree because_____________.”  Her argument that ________ is supported by research showing that___________.  You will be expected to apply these templates throughout your essays
  • 12. It isn’t just a thesis statement or part of your introduction…  A good essay not only refers to the author and text in the intro, but continues to call back to the text/refer to it throughout the entire essay.  This shows that you are constantly aware of your conversation, and that you didn’t just waltz in and take over. It’s all about me and my world!!!!You’re a jerk!
  • 13. Imagine how ignorant you sound… Amy Brown argues that it is important to speak more than one type of English. Great idea Brown, thanks. Now back to me…which reminds me about me and this one time me me me….blahblahblahblahblahbl albhalbhskfjslkajg…
  • 14. Imagine how courteous and smart you sound! Brown argues that it is necessary to speak more than one English. That reminds me of how I use different Englishes when I’m in different situations. For example… Hmmm…Brown also mentions that the language with her mother is “intimate,” and even how it has become the way she speaks with her boyfriend. I know I do the same with my boyfriend. For example,…
  • 15. Wrap Up—Putting in your oar:  As you can see, the point of establishing the conversation gives you a place to enter in a way that makes you seem like a respectful and well read scholar.  We do this as a way of agreeing, disagreeing with others, or challenging a standard way of thinking, or in other words:  TO START CONTROVERSY!!!