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Engaging Students with
Discussion Forums
Samar Mohammed
Mary Power
Scott Anderson
Centre for Teaching Excellence
Session Outline
• General uses of discussions on campus
• Specific examples from courses
• Discussion
Some General Uses of Forums
Course management:
• sign up for projects -- everyone can see
who has what topic/prof can easily see full
list
• "ask your TA" or "ask the Prof"
• graded forums
• course/instructor feedback forums
Some more common uses of forums
Community building:
• introduce yourself
• group collaboration space (projects)
• use to find a group (e.g. study group;
special interest group)
• community groups (external to courses)
Some General Uses of Forums
Engagement:
• wide open board -- posting for current
affairs (posting for current affairs)
• group discussion (e.g. topic/question of
the week) - summary posted to whole class
• peer review of paper (or sections)
• ask the presenters - discussion board
Physics 111
• Phys 111 Fall 2012 and 2013 (900 students)
• Phys 111 Winter 2013 (400 students)
• One 50 minute tutorial slot for each student
(tutorials staffed by 10 TAs in Fall, 4 in Winter with
1 or 2 lead TAs responsible for managing the
online details)
Instructors epiphany:
Eric Mazur - peer instruction
Karen Cummings - group work with context rich questions
Development of a Problem Solving Assessment Tool for Introductory Physics Students, K. Cummings, and T.
French, Proceedings of the National Physics Education Research Conference, Rochester, NY, pp 87-91,
August (2001)
Peer Instruction: From Harvard to Community Colleges Nathaniel Lasry, Eric Mazur and Jessica Watkins Am.
J. Phys., 76, 1066-1069 (2008).
Course structure
• Group sign up – tutorial not mandatory (10% optional
weighting)
Used self-enrolment group option - 200 member max therefore
multiple groups necessary
Course structure
• Students then randomly assigned to groups of 3 or 4
within tutorial section - WEEKLY.
• Students submit a reading assignment to discussion
board restricted to each small group
• In tutorial – students discuss their posts then solve
complex, context rich problems with group.
• Post tutorial – survey to evaluate group members,
weekly quiz
Challenges:
• no easy way to generate groups from a subset of
students (i.e. those registered for the Group Problem
Class or even those in a particular tutorial section)
• no easy way to create a survey with data specific to
teams / team members (for example questions like “Did
Joe Student attend the class?”)
Group Assignment
1. Export registration list
and generate groups in
Excel. Provides group
number and member letter
(program written in C)
2. Sign up individual
students to their respective
groups on LEARN (in
house group tool)
• Pre-tutorial writing assignment – “week in
summary” submitted to group discussion
Post Group work
• Survey - to assess their team mates
contribution in order to be eligible for bonus
marks, their own mark is controlled by their
colleagues
• Online quiz (individual work mandatory for all)
- to assess the learning of the weeks material
Survey Assessment
1. Students reference
Team Member List on
LEARN (generated from
Excel).
2. Students fill
out survey.
Identical week
to week.
Syde 543
Activities:
• Researcher Profile
• Expert Panel
• Mid-Course Feedback
Researcher Profile Activity
1. Students post to a general discussion topic “A” the name
of the researcher they selected.
2. Each student submits his/her draft to a discussion topic
“B”- 1 page limit
3. Each student reviews and provides constructive feedback
to three of his/ her classmates profiles. There was a limit
of three feedbacks per initial posting.
4. Each student posts a final profile to a discussion topic “C”
highlighting the changes that were made due to feedback
received.
Discussion Topic A
Discussion Topic B- Draft and Feedback
Discussion Topic C- Final Submission
Instructor’s Experience
“The use of discussion forums had the advantage
of keeping each student’s activities visible to the
entire class, a key goal for the assignment. It also
was relatively easy to setup and manage for the
instructor, with minimal involvement needed to
manage conflicts in selection of researchers, and a
clear and easy way of assessing whether parts of
the assignment were completed on time.”
J. Histon, U. of Waterloo, Using Online Learning Tools to Support Increased Engagement in
Human Factors Courses: The Researcher Profile Assignment, HFES, Oct. 2013
Expert Panel
• Using LEARN, students sign up with a partner to
be members of an expert panel using discussion
Topic A- maximum 2 pairs per week.
• Each pair prepares a 2 page summary of the
topic to submit to the instructor.
• Remaining members of the class post 2
questions for the expert panel to discussion
forum B prior to class
• Expert panel leads discussion in class
Discussion Topic A Sign-up sheet
Expert Panel Discussions Forum B
Mid-course Feedback
Grading – GEOG 203
• 165 students
• 9 Tutorial sections
• 5 TAs
• Critical reflection on readings and class
• Post first board for each Tutorial section
• Weekly submission for 10 weeks (90
discussion boards) – worth 20% overall
Weekly Forums
“Topics” (Boards) for each
Tutorial section
Default Naming of “Topics”
& Renaming
Manually set “Post First”
for each Topic
Manually set “Assessment”
for each Topic
Must have separate Grade
items for each “Topic”
Grid View
Grid View
Reading View
Grading Detail
Assess Topic
Assess Topic - Users
Assess Topic - Assessments
Grading Detail – Assess Topic
Gradebook
Grading Detail – Gradebook
TAs Preferences Differ
• Grade directly from the board
• Use Gradebook
– use separate browser to view messages and
grades
• Use Excel (and upload)
– File format for uploading finicky
Viewing Grade / Feedback
• If grading in the discussion boards
(Topics), it MUST be linked to the
gradebook otherwise there is no way for
students to view the grade and feedback
Acknowledgements
We thank the instructors below for allowing
us to use examples from their classes:
• Joe Sanderson – PHYS 111
• Jonathan Histon – SYDE 543
• Steffanie Scott – GEOG 203
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U Waterloo - Using Discussions - Presentation at D2L Ignite 2013

  • 1. Engaging Students with Discussion Forums Samar Mohammed Mary Power Scott Anderson Centre for Teaching Excellence
  • 2. Session Outline • General uses of discussions on campus • Specific examples from courses • Discussion
  • 3. Some General Uses of Forums Course management: • sign up for projects -- everyone can see who has what topic/prof can easily see full list • "ask your TA" or "ask the Prof" • graded forums • course/instructor feedback forums
  • 4. Some more common uses of forums Community building: • introduce yourself • group collaboration space (projects) • use to find a group (e.g. study group; special interest group) • community groups (external to courses)
  • 5. Some General Uses of Forums Engagement: • wide open board -- posting for current affairs (posting for current affairs) • group discussion (e.g. topic/question of the week) - summary posted to whole class • peer review of paper (or sections) • ask the presenters - discussion board
  • 6. Physics 111 • Phys 111 Fall 2012 and 2013 (900 students) • Phys 111 Winter 2013 (400 students) • One 50 minute tutorial slot for each student (tutorials staffed by 10 TAs in Fall, 4 in Winter with 1 or 2 lead TAs responsible for managing the online details)
  • 7. Instructors epiphany: Eric Mazur - peer instruction Karen Cummings - group work with context rich questions Development of a Problem Solving Assessment Tool for Introductory Physics Students, K. Cummings, and T. French, Proceedings of the National Physics Education Research Conference, Rochester, NY, pp 87-91, August (2001) Peer Instruction: From Harvard to Community Colleges Nathaniel Lasry, Eric Mazur and Jessica Watkins Am. J. Phys., 76, 1066-1069 (2008).
  • 8. Course structure • Group sign up – tutorial not mandatory (10% optional weighting) Used self-enrolment group option - 200 member max therefore multiple groups necessary
  • 9. Course structure • Students then randomly assigned to groups of 3 or 4 within tutorial section - WEEKLY. • Students submit a reading assignment to discussion board restricted to each small group • In tutorial – students discuss their posts then solve complex, context rich problems with group. • Post tutorial – survey to evaluate group members, weekly quiz
  • 10. Challenges: • no easy way to generate groups from a subset of students (i.e. those registered for the Group Problem Class or even those in a particular tutorial section) • no easy way to create a survey with data specific to teams / team members (for example questions like “Did Joe Student attend the class?”)
  • 11. Group Assignment 1. Export registration list and generate groups in Excel. Provides group number and member letter (program written in C) 2. Sign up individual students to their respective groups on LEARN (in house group tool)
  • 12. • Pre-tutorial writing assignment – “week in summary” submitted to group discussion
  • 13. Post Group work • Survey - to assess their team mates contribution in order to be eligible for bonus marks, their own mark is controlled by their colleagues • Online quiz (individual work mandatory for all) - to assess the learning of the weeks material
  • 14. Survey Assessment 1. Students reference Team Member List on LEARN (generated from Excel). 2. Students fill out survey. Identical week to week.
  • 15. Syde 543 Activities: • Researcher Profile • Expert Panel • Mid-Course Feedback
  • 16. Researcher Profile Activity 1. Students post to a general discussion topic “A” the name of the researcher they selected. 2. Each student submits his/her draft to a discussion topic “B”- 1 page limit 3. Each student reviews and provides constructive feedback to three of his/ her classmates profiles. There was a limit of three feedbacks per initial posting. 4. Each student posts a final profile to a discussion topic “C” highlighting the changes that were made due to feedback received.
  • 18. Discussion Topic B- Draft and Feedback
  • 19. Discussion Topic C- Final Submission
  • 20. Instructor’s Experience “The use of discussion forums had the advantage of keeping each student’s activities visible to the entire class, a key goal for the assignment. It also was relatively easy to setup and manage for the instructor, with minimal involvement needed to manage conflicts in selection of researchers, and a clear and easy way of assessing whether parts of the assignment were completed on time.” J. Histon, U. of Waterloo, Using Online Learning Tools to Support Increased Engagement in Human Factors Courses: The Researcher Profile Assignment, HFES, Oct. 2013
  • 21. Expert Panel • Using LEARN, students sign up with a partner to be members of an expert panel using discussion Topic A- maximum 2 pairs per week. • Each pair prepares a 2 page summary of the topic to submit to the instructor. • Remaining members of the class post 2 questions for the expert panel to discussion forum B prior to class • Expert panel leads discussion in class
  • 22. Discussion Topic A Sign-up sheet
  • 25. Grading – GEOG 203 • 165 students • 9 Tutorial sections • 5 TAs • Critical reflection on readings and class • Post first board for each Tutorial section • Weekly submission for 10 weeks (90 discussion boards) – worth 20% overall
  • 27. “Topics” (Boards) for each Tutorial section
  • 28. Default Naming of “Topics” & Renaming
  • 29. Manually set “Post First” for each Topic
  • 31. Must have separate Grade items for each “Topic”
  • 37. Assess Topic - Users
  • 38. Assess Topic - Assessments
  • 39. Grading Detail – Assess Topic
  • 41. Grading Detail – Gradebook
  • 42. TAs Preferences Differ • Grade directly from the board • Use Gradebook – use separate browser to view messages and grades • Use Excel (and upload) – File format for uploading finicky
  • 43. Viewing Grade / Feedback • If grading in the discussion boards (Topics), it MUST be linked to the gradebook otherwise there is no way for students to view the grade and feedback
  • 44. Acknowledgements We thank the instructors below for allowing us to use examples from their classes: • Joe Sanderson – PHYS 111 • Jonathan Histon – SYDE 543 • Steffanie Scott – GEOG 203