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What can you create by taking things away? Tantek Çelik, former CTO at Technorati:  “The more options you have in an interface, the less usable it becomes.” SIMPLICITY Aan de voorkant: interface Aan de achterkant: API
 
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JP Rangaswami - British Telecom JP Rangaswami  British Telecom Confused in Calcutta
Enterprise 2.0  = relinquishing control  = opposite culture of large enterprises It is an issue of trust Why is there a BCC button?  You will hide the conversation… Focus on output not input No punch clocks The four key enterprise apps: Search:  open & wildcard  Subscribe  to information: rss Fullfillment  & service: booking meeting room, flight etc Conversation : collaborative tools
kids of today adopt technology much quicker then you
They have their own interface and tool, their laptop, their fone. The web to share. Let them use facebook, hvyes etc to share and develop value. Focus on output, not input, they do it differently then you. Yesterday:  you had 1 job in yr life Now:  you have 7 jobs in yr life Tomorrow:  he will have 7 jobs, but at the  same time ..they  can  multi task Generation M:  they don't need to be teached the tools, the enterprise needs to learn from them to share en develop 100 years ago: use the company pen to fill in the ledgers Now new kids: wil never use the company pen....that would be a waste
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Phillipe Starck
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Phillipe Starck Design = politieke statement.  If you agree, you have to pay
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Phillipe Starck Invisibility Dematerialisme  Minimal = the essence.
Phillipe Starck Product design is bedoeld  om een vriend een beter  leven te geven...  Maak de zin af: Internet /e-mail design is bedoeld om...
N E X T
Marc Canter - Broadband Mechanics (moderator) Tariq Krim - Netvibes Hans Peter Brondmo - Plum Patrick Chanezon - Google Susan Kish - European Energy Forum
The network is the computer  – the people are on the network History: connect computers (HTTP), make it look nice (AJAX) Now: connect people (OpenSocial= open widget) Open is a matter of survival Nobody want to be open. There is no clear path to monitazation social  initiatives are  politics , you need  majority Why will a company open up it data? If you dont somebody will  (FB vs MySpace..) Dit wil de gebruiker : When can we re-use our netwerk profile information?
Social Software will solve the corporate silo problem,  the exctutives dont known about yet Question & Challange: Will the consumer trust you with his data? And how will vendors respect each other gained consumer trust? Man on the moon type problem  –  long  term  project
FILMPJE Open social is not dataportability
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Jason Calacanis “ Internet pollution and how to stop it”
Jason Calacanis Mahalo
What is Mahalo? A  spam free  &  human-powered  search engine
Jason Calacanis Wat betekent dit op  z’n hawaiiaans? A: Hello B: Proost C: Thank you  Mahalo
Jason Calacanis Usenet = onbruikbaar  geworden omdat het  een spam platform  is geworden. Mahalo
Search engines gaan dezelfde kant op! Google: 6 van de 10 resultaten bevatten spam
Search engines gaan dezelfde kant op! Seth Godin: Squido bevat veel ‘gestolen’ informatie
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Goede voorbeelden Yelp, Linkedin (no fake people), Techmeme en Bloglines Yelp
Is adverteren SPAM? En hoe zien we dat in ons werk? Hoe definieert RS: SPAM?
N E X T
Doc Searls VRM / Cluetrain Manifesto
Bullshit will loose leverage Web 2.0: Why is adwords progress? Advertising will pay for everything? It wont scale for ever.  I still get non relevent ads on my profile page. It still about eye balls for advertisers =  old model ! Waste of eyeball is moving from tv & paper Advertising as we know it will die
Markets will be understood in terms of relationships Markets are all of these things:  transactions, conversations & relationships The killer app is relation ships, not advertising NOW  wil merry to the value constellation:  I want to notify the market now of my car rental intention. A personal RFP. I want vendors to remember my old 5 year long relationship which I terminated We want to manage vendors at least as well as they manage us. Agreements needs to go both ways. no more one way legaleze. Thats what we call VRM The live web is more important then the Web X.n Its one yr foon, yr pictures, yr profile, NOW. Google search is history, blog search is now. Ken mn historie en mn context Geen commercial boodschappen als ik een help desk bel met een probleem.
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Sushi Sessie 24 Januari 2008 Le Web 3 Mlf & Ms

  • 1. Sushi Sessie MLF & MS Moderne marketing met moderne middelen in 2008 verslag en observaties van Le Web 3 07
  • 2. Samen onze visie ontwikkelen 17.00 tot 18.45 Samen eten
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  • 6. What can you create by taking things away? Tantek Çelik, former CTO at Technorati: “The more options you have in an interface, the less usable it becomes.” SIMPLICITY Aan de voorkant: interface Aan de achterkant: API
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  • 15. N E X T
  • 16. JP Rangaswami - British Telecom JP Rangaswami British Telecom Confused in Calcutta
  • 17. Enterprise 2.0 = relinquishing control = opposite culture of large enterprises It is an issue of trust Why is there a BCC button? You will hide the conversation… Focus on output not input No punch clocks The four key enterprise apps: Search: open & wildcard Subscribe to information: rss Fullfillment & service: booking meeting room, flight etc Conversation : collaborative tools
  • 18. kids of today adopt technology much quicker then you
  • 19. They have their own interface and tool, their laptop, their fone. The web to share. Let them use facebook, hvyes etc to share and develop value. Focus on output, not input, they do it differently then you. Yesterday: you had 1 job in yr life Now: you have 7 jobs in yr life Tomorrow: he will have 7 jobs, but at the same time ..they can multi task Generation M: they don't need to be teached the tools, the enterprise needs to learn from them to share en develop 100 years ago: use the company pen to fill in the ledgers Now new kids: wil never use the company pen....that would be a waste
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  • 27. Phillipe Starck Design = politieke statement. If you agree, you have to pay
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  • 31. Phillipe Starck Invisibility Dematerialisme Minimal = the essence.
  • 32. Phillipe Starck Product design is bedoeld om een vriend een beter leven te geven... Maak de zin af: Internet /e-mail design is bedoeld om...
  • 33. N E X T
  • 34. Marc Canter - Broadband Mechanics (moderator) Tariq Krim - Netvibes Hans Peter Brondmo - Plum Patrick Chanezon - Google Susan Kish - European Energy Forum
  • 35. The network is the computer – the people are on the network History: connect computers (HTTP), make it look nice (AJAX) Now: connect people (OpenSocial= open widget) Open is a matter of survival Nobody want to be open. There is no clear path to monitazation social initiatives are politics , you need majority Why will a company open up it data? If you dont somebody will (FB vs MySpace..) Dit wil de gebruiker : When can we re-use our netwerk profile information?
  • 36. Social Software will solve the corporate silo problem, the exctutives dont known about yet Question & Challange: Will the consumer trust you with his data? And how will vendors respect each other gained consumer trust? Man on the moon type problem – long term project
  • 37. FILMPJE Open social is not dataportability
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  • 40. Jason Calacanis “ Internet pollution and how to stop it”
  • 42. What is Mahalo? A spam free & human-powered search engine
  • 43. Jason Calacanis Wat betekent dit op z’n hawaiiaans? A: Hello B: Proost C: Thank you Mahalo
  • 44. Jason Calacanis Usenet = onbruikbaar geworden omdat het een spam platform is geworden. Mahalo
  • 45. Search engines gaan dezelfde kant op! Google: 6 van de 10 resultaten bevatten spam
  • 46. Search engines gaan dezelfde kant op! Seth Godin: Squido bevat veel ‘gestolen’ informatie
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  • 48. Goede voorbeelden Yelp, Linkedin (no fake people), Techmeme en Bloglines Yelp
  • 49. Is adverteren SPAM? En hoe zien we dat in ons werk? Hoe definieert RS: SPAM?
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  • 51. Doc Searls VRM / Cluetrain Manifesto
  • 52. Bullshit will loose leverage Web 2.0: Why is adwords progress? Advertising will pay for everything? It wont scale for ever. I still get non relevent ads on my profile page. It still about eye balls for advertisers = old model ! Waste of eyeball is moving from tv & paper Advertising as we know it will die
  • 53. Markets will be understood in terms of relationships Markets are all of these things: transactions, conversations & relationships The killer app is relation ships, not advertising NOW wil merry to the value constellation: I want to notify the market now of my car rental intention. A personal RFP. I want vendors to remember my old 5 year long relationship which I terminated We want to manage vendors at least as well as they manage us. Agreements needs to go both ways. no more one way legaleze. Thats what we call VRM The live web is more important then the Web X.n Its one yr foon, yr pictures, yr profile, NOW. Google search is history, blog search is now. Ken mn historie en mn context Geen commercial boodschappen als ik een help desk bel met een probleem.
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