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How to Focus on
Customer Success to
GrowYour Agency
with Michelle Frechette
Head of Customer Success at GiveWP
Hello!
I’m Michelle Frechette
I am here because I love the WordPress
Community, and I love helping others
grow their businesses, whether for profit
or nonprofit.
2
Head of Customer Success, GiveWP
What isn’t Customer Success?
⦁ It’s not support (exactly)
⦁ It’s not sales (really)
⦁ It’s not marketing (but kinda)
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What is Customer Success?
⦁ It’s support adjacent
⦁ Help your customers find what they need
⦁ It’s sales adjacent
⦁ Are we a good fit for the customer?
⦁ It’s marketing adjacent
⦁ We help marketing understand the
customer
4
What is Customer Success?
⦁ It’s definitely communication
⦁ It’s definitely onboarding
⦁ It’s definitely hand holding
⦁ It’s definitely celebrating
⦁ It’s definitely tied to your own income
5
HowYour Customers’
Success Is Your Success
Successful customers = happy customers
Happy customers = renewals/new projects
Happy customers = Referrals
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What Works vs.
What Helps
“Good. Better. Best.
Never rest, until your Good is
Better, and your Better is Best.
~Mother Goose
8
Satisfied
Satisfied customers might
come back, but they also might
look for the next best deal, or
cheaper solution.
When we move from what works to
what helps, we move from satisfied to
delighted.
Delighted
Delighted customers become
brand loyal, and in turn, brand
ambassadors. These are the
customers who sing your
praises to others, and
recommend your work.
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When you delight customers...
● Sales become easier.
● You sell to clients who are a good fit.
● Relationships are built.
● Renewals are seamless.
● Recommendations abound.
● Your bottom line is better.
10
Let’s look at 5 ways to delight customers
Have a product or service
that is worth paying for …
and paying for again.
1
“
Maintaining a customer is less
expensive than attaining a
customer
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Good Product/Service
Customers who will look for
other good products/services
that will beat your price
When people buy our services, we
celebrate - we should celebrate
renewals even more!
Great Product/Service
Customers will stay rather than
take the time and effort to
move elsewhere and build a
new relationship.
13
Be human
2
“
Real relationships happen
between people, not between a
person and a business
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Businesses are impersonal
Would you rather chat with a
bot, get a recorded message,
receive an automated email?
Humans are relatable
Humans make a difference
Or chat with a human, get a
person on a phone call, and get
an authentic email reply?
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⦁ Don’t wait until a customer has a problem, do periodic outreach
to check in and see how they’re doing
⦁ Proactive check-ins delight customers (most of the time)
⦁ Take calls, answer email, but within boundaries
⦁ Not personal phone number
⦁ Not outside of work hours
⦁ Set appropriate expectations in your contracts
Outreach & Availability
17
Invest in the tools and
people you need to
support your clients in a
human way
3
“Hiring people and then not
giving them the tools to do their
job is like asking a surgeon to
remove your child’s tonsils with
a spoon on your kitchen counter
Not advised
19
(But ask your team what they need to feel successful, too)
⦁ Phone numbers that aren’t their personal numbers.
(I use aircall.io for my team)
⦁ Email ticketing system that still allows personalization.
(We use HelpScout)
⦁ CRM for tracking and email automation.
(We use ActiveCampaign)
⦁ Interoffice real time communication. (Like Slack)
⦁ Other things like Zoom accounts, headphones, mics, comfy
chairs, etc. It all matters.
Tools for Human Productivity
20
What can you do to add value?
⦁ Newsletters with ideas
⦁ Blog posts
⦁ Webinars/Training/Workshops
⦁ Social media shout-outs, tips, ideas
⦁ Consultations on their services, website, products
Value Added
21
Don’t say “thank you”
too much
4
“
Some things are so common
they lose meaning and aren’t
even noticed
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(Or rather, when I do, and when I don’t)
⦁ I don’t thank people for their business
⦁ I don’t thank people for using my services
⦁ I don’t thank people for asking me questions
⦁ I don’t thank people for meeting with me
⦁ I do thank people for giving me something I ask for
⦁ I do thank people for grace when needed
⦁ I do thank people for generosity
Why I Stopped Saying “Thank You”
24
Use empowerment language
⦁ Congratulations on your purchase of…
⦁ Welcome to the ________ family/community
⦁ I'm so excited for you!
⦁ Amazing things are about to happen
⦁ Congratulations on taking the next step in your success
⦁ Let’s get started on building your...
What I say Instead of “Thank You”
25
Don’t apologize unless
you did something wrong
5
“
Apologies are not fixes,
but they can be liabilities
27
(Or rather, when I do, and when I don’t)
⦁ I don’t apologize when we’re not a good fit
⦁ I don’t apologize when I have to say “no”
⦁ I don’t apologize when the customer’s mistake leads to issues
⦁ I don’t apologize when it wasn’t our/my fault
⦁ I do apologize if we made a mistake
⦁ I do apologize if I’m late to a meeting
⦁ I do apologize when it’s appropriate to apologize
Why I Stopped Saying “I’m Sorry”
28
Use language that fits and even helps
⦁ It’s unfortunate that this didn’t work out
⦁ It doesn’t see that we’re a good fit for your needs, but here’s
someone/something that might work for you
⦁ I'm unable to process a refund for you
⦁ I see what happened, and we can help fix it
⦁ Although this wasn’t caused by us/our team/our product, let’s
see if we can help you find a solution
Instead of “I’m Sorry”
29
30
And did I mention
to be human?
Resources
⦁ Aircall.io
⦁ HelpScout.net
⦁ ActiveCampaign.com
⦁ Twitter.com/michelleames
⦁ GoWP.com
⦁ gowp.com/creating-happiness/customer-success/
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32
Thank you for
being here!
Any questions?
You can find me at @michelleames &
michelle@givewp.com

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How to Focus on Customer Success to Grow Your Agency

  • 1. How to Focus on Customer Success to GrowYour Agency with Michelle Frechette Head of Customer Success at GiveWP
  • 2. Hello! I’m Michelle Frechette I am here because I love the WordPress Community, and I love helping others grow their businesses, whether for profit or nonprofit. 2 Head of Customer Success, GiveWP
  • 3. What isn’t Customer Success? ⦁ It’s not support (exactly) ⦁ It’s not sales (really) ⦁ It’s not marketing (but kinda) 3
  • 4. What is Customer Success? ⦁ It’s support adjacent ⦁ Help your customers find what they need ⦁ It’s sales adjacent ⦁ Are we a good fit for the customer? ⦁ It’s marketing adjacent ⦁ We help marketing understand the customer 4
  • 5. What is Customer Success? ⦁ It’s definitely communication ⦁ It’s definitely onboarding ⦁ It’s definitely hand holding ⦁ It’s definitely celebrating ⦁ It’s definitely tied to your own income 5
  • 6. HowYour Customers’ Success Is Your Success Successful customers = happy customers Happy customers = renewals/new projects Happy customers = Referrals 6
  • 8. “Good. Better. Best. Never rest, until your Good is Better, and your Better is Best. ~Mother Goose 8
  • 9. Satisfied Satisfied customers might come back, but they also might look for the next best deal, or cheaper solution. When we move from what works to what helps, we move from satisfied to delighted. Delighted Delighted customers become brand loyal, and in turn, brand ambassadors. These are the customers who sing your praises to others, and recommend your work. 9
  • 10. When you delight customers... ● Sales become easier. ● You sell to clients who are a good fit. ● Relationships are built. ● Renewals are seamless. ● Recommendations abound. ● Your bottom line is better. 10 Let’s look at 5 ways to delight customers
  • 11. Have a product or service that is worth paying for … and paying for again. 1
  • 12. “ Maintaining a customer is less expensive than attaining a customer 12
  • 13. Good Product/Service Customers who will look for other good products/services that will beat your price When people buy our services, we celebrate - we should celebrate renewals even more! Great Product/Service Customers will stay rather than take the time and effort to move elsewhere and build a new relationship. 13
  • 15. “ Real relationships happen between people, not between a person and a business 15
  • 16. Businesses are impersonal Would you rather chat with a bot, get a recorded message, receive an automated email? Humans are relatable Humans make a difference Or chat with a human, get a person on a phone call, and get an authentic email reply? 16
  • 17. ⦁ Don’t wait until a customer has a problem, do periodic outreach to check in and see how they’re doing ⦁ Proactive check-ins delight customers (most of the time) ⦁ Take calls, answer email, but within boundaries ⦁ Not personal phone number ⦁ Not outside of work hours ⦁ Set appropriate expectations in your contracts Outreach & Availability 17
  • 18. Invest in the tools and people you need to support your clients in a human way 3
  • 19. “Hiring people and then not giving them the tools to do their job is like asking a surgeon to remove your child’s tonsils with a spoon on your kitchen counter Not advised 19
  • 20. (But ask your team what they need to feel successful, too) ⦁ Phone numbers that aren’t their personal numbers. (I use aircall.io for my team) ⦁ Email ticketing system that still allows personalization. (We use HelpScout) ⦁ CRM for tracking and email automation. (We use ActiveCampaign) ⦁ Interoffice real time communication. (Like Slack) ⦁ Other things like Zoom accounts, headphones, mics, comfy chairs, etc. It all matters. Tools for Human Productivity 20
  • 21. What can you do to add value? ⦁ Newsletters with ideas ⦁ Blog posts ⦁ Webinars/Training/Workshops ⦁ Social media shout-outs, tips, ideas ⦁ Consultations on their services, website, products Value Added 21
  • 22. Don’t say “thank you” too much 4
  • 23. “ Some things are so common they lose meaning and aren’t even noticed 23
  • 24. (Or rather, when I do, and when I don’t) ⦁ I don’t thank people for their business ⦁ I don’t thank people for using my services ⦁ I don’t thank people for asking me questions ⦁ I don’t thank people for meeting with me ⦁ I do thank people for giving me something I ask for ⦁ I do thank people for grace when needed ⦁ I do thank people for generosity Why I Stopped Saying “Thank You” 24
  • 25. Use empowerment language ⦁ Congratulations on your purchase of… ⦁ Welcome to the ________ family/community ⦁ I'm so excited for you! ⦁ Amazing things are about to happen ⦁ Congratulations on taking the next step in your success ⦁ Let’s get started on building your... What I say Instead of “Thank You” 25
  • 26. Don’t apologize unless you did something wrong 5
  • 27. “ Apologies are not fixes, but they can be liabilities 27
  • 28. (Or rather, when I do, and when I don’t) ⦁ I don’t apologize when we’re not a good fit ⦁ I don’t apologize when I have to say “no” ⦁ I don’t apologize when the customer’s mistake leads to issues ⦁ I don’t apologize when it wasn’t our/my fault ⦁ I do apologize if we made a mistake ⦁ I do apologize if I’m late to a meeting ⦁ I do apologize when it’s appropriate to apologize Why I Stopped Saying “I’m Sorry” 28
  • 29. Use language that fits and even helps ⦁ It’s unfortunate that this didn’t work out ⦁ It doesn’t see that we’re a good fit for your needs, but here’s someone/something that might work for you ⦁ I'm unable to process a refund for you ⦁ I see what happened, and we can help fix it ⦁ Although this wasn’t caused by us/our team/our product, let’s see if we can help you find a solution Instead of “I’m Sorry” 29
  • 30. 30 And did I mention to be human?
  • 31. Resources ⦁ Aircall.io ⦁ HelpScout.net ⦁ ActiveCampaign.com ⦁ Twitter.com/michelleames ⦁ GoWP.com ⦁ gowp.com/creating-happiness/customer-success/ 31
  • 32. 32 Thank you for being here! Any questions? You can find me at @michelleames & michelle@givewp.com