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JD and CAE in Goats –
Surveillance Meeting
Adelaide, October, 2019
Presentation by Dr Sandra Baxendell, goatvetoz
Johne’s disease = paratuberculosis
● Caused by Mycobacterium avian subspecies
paratuberculosis often abbreviated to Map or
MAP
● MAP also = Market Assurance Program
● See johnes.org and subscribe to emails
Scouring isn’t the typical sign in
goats as it is with cattle
Goats with JD can just look like a
skinny goat
(photos thanks to NSW Dept)
Clinical JD in goats DAFWA
Justify It’s Not Johne’s
● JD in goats causes
wasting and generally
no scouring – just like
CAE and worms
PM signs – but easy to miss
(photos thanks to Victorian Dept)
Need to get lymph node stained
Johne’s disease goats also get
worms
Most JD goats have high WECs or
large worm burdens when PMed
Gut becomes a JD bacteria factory
Johne’s disease blood tests
No test can pick up JD early
Stage Clinical signs Positive with Normal
Blood Tests
Shedding in
Faeces
Early
incubation/silent
infection
None None No
Subclinical none Possible Yes but low
numbers
Clinical Weight loss Yes Yes- high
numbers
Advanced Emaciation,
dehydration,
clumped faeces,
intermittent
diarrhoea
Yes Yes-extremely
high numbers
Johne’s disease – long incubation
(Ontario Dept - http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/livestock/sheep/facts/johnsdis.htm)
First Australian Goat Herd with Johne’s disease detected
Incubating Johne’s disease but not yet positive on blood test
Rest of herd
5 goats emaciated & destroyed
over 5 months
5 out of 24 goats with positive blood test
??????????????????????????????????????????????????
Johne’s disease tests = herd tests
Testing an individual goat before
buying = false sense of security
Which kid will introduce JD into your
herd ?
How could your herd get Johne’s
● Kids and young animals are most at risk but
adults can still get it
● Milk or colostrum esp. if dirty from manure
● Manure (even on boots or from floods)
● Feedlot/saleyard manure on pastures
BUT
Most diseases are bought & paid for i.e. new
stock (cattle, sheep, goats or alpaca)
The way most Johne’s gets into a
herd
JD deregulation in Australia
● MAP no longer available for cattle (still there for
goats)
● J-BAS or Dairy Assurance Score 1-8 in cattle
● Free movement between eastern states and SA
● No quarantine for JD & not told if the herd you
bought from gets JD
● Now up to individual & possibly their private vet
to manage
Goat with JD 3 years old
Johne’s disease is notifiable but just
affects exports
Overseas Exports
Economics- Vaccination is the most
economic method of control in
cattle, but goats???
Improve Farm Hygiene
5 Reasons to Control JD
● Production losses (earlier in goats
than cattle)
● Animal welfare
● Sale of stock & exports
● Crohn’s disease, MS & type 1
diabetes trigger or cause?
● Global efforts to control JD
CAE - What’s in a Name?
 “Big Knees” &
“Hard Udder” of
unknown cause
 Caprine Arthritis
Encephalitis or
Caprine Retrovirus
 Small Ruminant
Lentivirus
SRLV can cross species barrier
5Main Reasons for Supporting
CAE eradication
1. CAE = a risk to the sheep
industry
Sheep industry will pay 80% of any Maedi-
Visna eradication conflict
5Reasons to eradicate CAE
1. CAE = a risk to the sheep industry
2. Animal welfare concerns
Goat product purchases will suffer like pork
from sow stalls or caged eggs
Welfare – no cure, obvious pain
Deformed legs Wasting & joint peri-arthritis
5Reasons to eradicate CAE
1. CAE = a risk to the sheep industry
2. Animal welfare concerns
3. Globally CAE eradication
progressing
CAE eradication progressing
5Reasons to eradicate CAE
1. CAE = a risk to the sheep industry
2. Animal welfare concerns
3. Global CAE eradication progressing
4. CAE = risk to meat and
fibre goats
Gumtree Adverts
● “Boer cross Saanens
available….. Some 1 and 2
yearlings available but all this
years' drop sold. No kids left.”
● " Buck Wanted". A small dairy
goat herd wanted to hire a
buck and a Boer goat as
indicated as a possible option.
No mention was made of the
CAE status of this herd.
Can we afford to wait ?
CAE = a slow virus & signs take
years +
Clinical Signs vs Viral Load
● Slow virus so clinical
signs may take years
● Serological positive tests
can take up to 3 years
● Some carriers may never
develop clinical signs
● CAE builds up until the
herd “crashes”
Need to Act Now
Before CAE spreads
white blood cells
5Reasons to eradicate CAE
1. CAE = a risk to the sheep industry
2. Animal welfare concerns
3. Global CAE eradication progressing
4. CAE = risk to meat and fibre goats
5. CAEV is like HIV - Mexican
children given CAE positive goats’ milk
developed positive tests to CAE
HIV, another lentivirus
● Monkeys & Chimps to
humans
● Human AIDS/HIV
Will consumers be confident - CAE
is not zoonotic?
Researchers agree to an
association re MAP and human
disease but can’t agree re causation
“If Map was considered as a
murder suspect, it has both the
means and the opportunity.”
From – A Consensus Statement of the
American College of Veterinary
Internal Medicine published 2012
But will health conscious consumers
care?
Youtube videos
www.crohn’s.org- Map highlighted
humanpara.org
Crohn’s & MS now being treated
with MAP antibiotics
New Zealand MapTest
Human Map vaccine trial
MAP Vaccine Facebook group
Youtube video by Crohn’s patient
Permeate free milk
HGP or Hormone Free
Lab grown meat is marketed as
“Clean Meat”
Photo source = https://www.beefcentral.com/news/why-are-some-of-the-worlds-largest-meat-processors-investing-in-lab-
grownmeat/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Beef%20Central%20News%20Headlines%20September%2011%202017&utm_content=Beef%20Central%20News%20Headlines%20September%2011
%202017+CID_9e3f6a835220003f5a12b88533f0c2af&utm_source=eGenerator&utm_term=Click%20here%20for%20full%20story
Nut alternatives Vs Real Milk
Tesco – aiming for 100% suppliers
tested for JD
Right to farm at risk?
Is a Train Wreck coming ?

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JD and CAE Surveillance in Goats

  • 1. © JD and CAE in Goats – Surveillance Meeting Adelaide, October, 2019 Presentation by Dr Sandra Baxendell, goatvetoz
  • 2. Johne’s disease = paratuberculosis ● Caused by Mycobacterium avian subspecies paratuberculosis often abbreviated to Map or MAP ● MAP also = Market Assurance Program ● See johnes.org and subscribe to emails
  • 3. Scouring isn’t the typical sign in goats as it is with cattle
  • 4. Goats with JD can just look like a skinny goat (photos thanks to NSW Dept)
  • 5. Clinical JD in goats DAFWA
  • 6. Justify It’s Not Johne’s ● JD in goats causes wasting and generally no scouring – just like CAE and worms
  • 7. PM signs – but easy to miss (photos thanks to Victorian Dept)
  • 8. Need to get lymph node stained
  • 9. Johne’s disease goats also get worms Most JD goats have high WECs or large worm burdens when PMed
  • 10. Gut becomes a JD bacteria factory
  • 12. No test can pick up JD early Stage Clinical signs Positive with Normal Blood Tests Shedding in Faeces Early incubation/silent infection None None No Subclinical none Possible Yes but low numbers Clinical Weight loss Yes Yes- high numbers Advanced Emaciation, dehydration, clumped faeces, intermittent diarrhoea Yes Yes-extremely high numbers
  • 13. Johne’s disease – long incubation (Ontario Dept - http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/livestock/sheep/facts/johnsdis.htm)
  • 14. First Australian Goat Herd with Johne’s disease detected Incubating Johne’s disease but not yet positive on blood test Rest of herd 5 goats emaciated & destroyed over 5 months 5 out of 24 goats with positive blood test ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
  • 15. Johne’s disease tests = herd tests Testing an individual goat before buying = false sense of security
  • 16. Which kid will introduce JD into your herd ?
  • 17. How could your herd get Johne’s ● Kids and young animals are most at risk but adults can still get it ● Milk or colostrum esp. if dirty from manure ● Manure (even on boots or from floods) ● Feedlot/saleyard manure on pastures BUT Most diseases are bought & paid for i.e. new stock (cattle, sheep, goats or alpaca)
  • 18. The way most Johne’s gets into a herd
  • 19. JD deregulation in Australia ● MAP no longer available for cattle (still there for goats) ● J-BAS or Dairy Assurance Score 1-8 in cattle ● Free movement between eastern states and SA ● No quarantine for JD & not told if the herd you bought from gets JD ● Now up to individual & possibly their private vet to manage
  • 20. Goat with JD 3 years old
  • 21. Johne’s disease is notifiable but just affects exports
  • 23. Economics- Vaccination is the most economic method of control in cattle, but goats???
  • 25. 5 Reasons to Control JD ● Production losses (earlier in goats than cattle) ● Animal welfare ● Sale of stock & exports ● Crohn’s disease, MS & type 1 diabetes trigger or cause? ● Global efforts to control JD
  • 26. CAE - What’s in a Name?  “Big Knees” & “Hard Udder” of unknown cause  Caprine Arthritis Encephalitis or Caprine Retrovirus  Small Ruminant Lentivirus
  • 27. SRLV can cross species barrier
  • 28. 5Main Reasons for Supporting CAE eradication 1. CAE = a risk to the sheep industry Sheep industry will pay 80% of any Maedi- Visna eradication conflict
  • 29. 5Reasons to eradicate CAE 1. CAE = a risk to the sheep industry 2. Animal welfare concerns Goat product purchases will suffer like pork from sow stalls or caged eggs
  • 30. Welfare – no cure, obvious pain Deformed legs Wasting & joint peri-arthritis
  • 31. 5Reasons to eradicate CAE 1. CAE = a risk to the sheep industry 2. Animal welfare concerns 3. Globally CAE eradication progressing
  • 33. 5Reasons to eradicate CAE 1. CAE = a risk to the sheep industry 2. Animal welfare concerns 3. Global CAE eradication progressing 4. CAE = risk to meat and fibre goats
  • 34. Gumtree Adverts ● “Boer cross Saanens available….. Some 1 and 2 yearlings available but all this years' drop sold. No kids left.” ● " Buck Wanted". A small dairy goat herd wanted to hire a buck and a Boer goat as indicated as a possible option. No mention was made of the CAE status of this herd.
  • 35. Can we afford to wait ? CAE = a slow virus & signs take years +
  • 36. Clinical Signs vs Viral Load ● Slow virus so clinical signs may take years ● Serological positive tests can take up to 3 years ● Some carriers may never develop clinical signs ● CAE builds up until the herd “crashes”
  • 37. Need to Act Now Before CAE spreads white blood cells
  • 38. 5Reasons to eradicate CAE 1. CAE = a risk to the sheep industry 2. Animal welfare concerns 3. Global CAE eradication progressing 4. CAE = risk to meat and fibre goats 5. CAEV is like HIV - Mexican children given CAE positive goats’ milk developed positive tests to CAE
  • 39. HIV, another lentivirus ● Monkeys & Chimps to humans ● Human AIDS/HIV
  • 40. Will consumers be confident - CAE is not zoonotic?
  • 41. Researchers agree to an association re MAP and human disease but can’t agree re causation
  • 42. “If Map was considered as a murder suspect, it has both the means and the opportunity.” From – A Consensus Statement of the American College of Veterinary Internal Medicine published 2012
  • 43. But will health conscious consumers care?
  • 47. Crohn’s & MS now being treated with MAP antibiotics
  • 51. Youtube video by Crohn’s patient
  • 54. Lab grown meat is marketed as “Clean Meat” Photo source = https://www.beefcentral.com/news/why-are-some-of-the-worlds-largest-meat-processors-investing-in-lab- grownmeat/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Beef%20Central%20News%20Headlines%20September%2011%202017&utm_content=Beef%20Central%20News%20Headlines%20September%2011 %202017+CID_9e3f6a835220003f5a12b88533f0c2af&utm_source=eGenerator&utm_term=Click%20here%20for%20full%20story
  • 55. Nut alternatives Vs Real Milk
  • 56. Tesco – aiming for 100% suppliers tested for JD
  • 57. Right to farm at risk?
  • 58. Is a Train Wreck coming ?