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Will’s ‘ikkle pitch
About a little thing Will likes
What I’m about to show you is some “Violent,” and/or “Gory” scenes from Saw
and Saw II
I can understand if you do not wish to view these scenes as they are widely
considered unpleasant. But please, don’t make a fuss. Just walk out of the
room, avert you eyes or just think happy thoughts. But don’t make a scene.
If you can’t comply you will be asked to grow some b***s by the speaker.
Some Clips for your delectation
So you maybe wondering why I
presented those clips
• The first clip is from Saw and the Second is from Saw II
and you may have noticed that the second one of
which took a greater focus on the trap and made it
• That was deliberate
• “(Greg)Hoffman said in an interview with Fangoria that
they listened to fans' suggestions. For instance, instead
of only showing the aftermath of a character violently
dying in a flashback, they would allow it to unfold as it
happened. This was in contrast to Saw, in which most
of the violence was implied off-screen.”
This got Will thinking
• Its been stated by countless people that violence
in the media makes people act violent, and there
is mass speculation as weather that’s true
• But, Is it possible that we, as consumers, make
the media violent? The Saw team looked at their
audience to see what they wanted from the
franchise and they answered more gore, so is it
the other way round? Is it both? Is it neither
• A list of domestic Gross of movies from 2012 (Taken from
• 1Marvel's The Avengers BV $623,357,910
• 2 The Dark Knight Rises WB $448,139,099
• 3 The Hunger Games LGF $408,010,692
• 4 Skyfall Sony $304,360,277
• 5The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey WB $303,003,568
• 6The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2 LG/S $292,324,737
• 7 The Amazing Spider-Man $262,030,663
• 8 Brave BV $237,283,207
• 9 Ted Uni.$218,815,487
• 10 Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted P/DW $216,391,482
• 11 Dr. Seuss' The Lorax Uni. $214,030,500
• 12 Wreck-It Ralph BV $189,422,889
• 13 Lincoln BV $182,207,973
• 14 MIB 3 Sony$179,020,854
• 15 Django Unchained Wein. $162,805,434
• 16 Ice Age: Continental Drift Fox $161,321,843
• 17 Snow White and the Huntsman Uni. $155,332,381
• 18 Les Miserables (2012) Uni. $148,809,770
• 19 Hotel Transylvania Sony $148,313,048
• 20 Taken 2 Fox $139,854,287
3 The Hunger Games LGF $408,010,692
15 Django Unchained Wein. $162,805,434
Will that was boring, so please explain.
• Django unchained is arguably one of the most violent films
in recent memory and whilst no one says Hunger Games is,
for something aimed at a teen demographic, the idea of
teens murdering each other is a very harsh and gory
• In addition to this, Quentin Tarintino is often considered
one of the best directors working by people and his films
Kill Bill and Grindhouse are very violent films.
• What this shows is that violence sells, and that over time
consumer audiences will be attracted and intrigued by
violent films, gaining these directors money, so they will
repeat the formula for similar results
Other side of the argument
• The argument that the media makes us violent
is nearly as old as the media itself.
• One piece of evidence for this is the Bobo doll
experiment in which the experimenter would
show one group of children a video of a
woman hitting a doll and the other a tape of
the woman hugging the doll. The group that
saw the woman hitting the doll would also hit
the doll, showing that young childeren at least
would recreate what they saw
Some examples of violence being
influenced by the media.
• James Holmes killed 12 (some sources say 15
but most 12) people in a shooting in aurora
Colorado during a screening of Batman: The
Dark Knight Rises. He was quoted as calling
himself ‘The Joker’ and the violence is
arguably influenced by the manic character.
He is recently trying to get let off the case with
the plea of insanity. This could be supported
by the copy cat theory.
Just because this person has clearly watched
batman movies/ batman comics doesn’t mean
that everyone who does watches/read’s them is
going to turn out to be murderous psychopaths.
These movies have thousands of fans and only
one of them committed mass murder, so the
idea of copy cat violence is one in million,
usually done by them mentally unstable.
I believe that it’s more that we make the media
violent for reasons that I have stated. The media
does desentise us, but doesn’t make stable
people go out and commit horrible acts.
However the more unstable people may take
influence from violent images they see and with
us making the images more violent they become
violent as well.