OS LMS TAC:  What Will We Do with the Leftover $296,397 Clark Shah-Nelson,  Coordinator of Online Education SUNY Delhi College of Technology Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Share-Alike: Clark Shah-Nelson, 2008.
Background SUNY Delhi: over sixty 1, 2, and 4 year programs approximately 2700 students In house WebCT server since 2004 Also hosted courses on SUNY Learning Network Predominantly web-enhanced courses Small but increasing number of fully online / asynchronous courses
Online Courses and Enrollments Growth:
Online Coordinator Began December 2006 Past experience teaching with  E-Education (Jones) (1999-2001) eCollege (2001-2007) Past experience admin/support for: Blackboard (2006) Position described working with WebCT and SLN…
The Task… Research and select a new system Migrate courses Train users Develop orientations, documentation, etc. By end of 2008…   No time for lengthy focus group sessions, LMS comparisons, etc.
Documentation Agile Project Management  Requirements Gathering in Confluence wiki Business, Technical,  Functional Requirements: Integration with Luminis Message Broker for course setup, user enrollment via Banner Match current functions of WebCT  Upload and store media files Online quizzes, discussions, etc.
TCO vs. TAC Total Cost of Ownership:  Include on-going services, support External costs and systems, bandwidth, electricity, exact # of minutes spent on tasks, etc.  Better for analysis for new services/systems? Total Alternative Cost If we change to a new system, what alternative or additional costs will we incur, including staffing?
Total Alternative Cost
Total Alternative Cost
Total Alternative Cost
Total Alternative Cost
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Final Selection  Outsourced Open Source LMS:  Moodle hosted by Moodlerooms, Inc. Do we need to hire more personnel? No. Is the LMS stable and secure? Yes.
Out vs. In Downsides: A bit slower than in house (bandwidth) Help - contact another company rather than the tech around the corner  Upsides: Campus outages not affected Sys Admin focused ONLY on Moodle They purchase and maintain/replace software/machines
Open vs. Enterprise Rich community of user forums, tutorials, resources, bug tracker Less Cost - at all levels Luminis Message Broker Digester - $0 WebCTimport tool - $0 Just as stable and more feature-rich More social networking capability,  Web 2.0 Quicker to gain new features More customizable Did I mention cost?
Timeline March 2007 - Hostmonster account set up with multiple instances of Moodle for training development, experimentation, etc. ($75 /year splurge) May 2007 - Course development server established June 2007 - Initial training modules developed and delivered July 2007 - Begin test Luminis Message Broker / Banner integration Fall 2007 - initial courses developed for Spring 2008 production server October 2007 - establish and test production server Spring 2008 - offer Nursing BSN and Vet Tech courses on production server Spring/Summer 2008 - additional training offered, Summer courses migrated Summer 2008 - Fall courses migrated from WebCT/SLN Fall 2008 - additional training and J-term/Spring course migration
Faculty Members Concerned about training: Took much less time than WebCT to learn Easier to use More features Exciting new possibilities iPod training program Concerned about converting courses: We do that for them Webctimport plugin from moodle.org
Students Love the new system: Easier to navigate than WebCT Like having images of fellow students Easier to follow discussions
Coordinator Faculty are more self-sufficient More fun to administer More focus on training Hosted in expert environment High level of customization More funds for faculty development
Staff More interested in using the LMS for training and staff development See LMS as a way to reach students Involved with Moodle Orientation for students No noticable difference for registration, enrollments, etc.
Administration Left research and decision in our hands Appreciate “international-ness”  Bottom line: Furthering educational mission $$$: The Pot of Gold
The End Questions? Clark Shah-Nelson [email_address] www.delhi.edu  - Confluence wiki documentation http://blogs.nercomp.org/blogs/nac2008/ 2-3-98 - Open Source Conference and Moodle Moot at SUNY Delhi June 19/20, 2008 	 www.delhi.edu/2-3-98/

Nercomp08 LMS Migration

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    OS LMS TAC: What Will We Do with the Leftover $296,397 Clark Shah-Nelson, Coordinator of Online Education SUNY Delhi College of Technology Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Share-Alike: Clark Shah-Nelson, 2008.
  • 2.
    Background SUNY Delhi:over sixty 1, 2, and 4 year programs approximately 2700 students In house WebCT server since 2004 Also hosted courses on SUNY Learning Network Predominantly web-enhanced courses Small but increasing number of fully online / asynchronous courses
  • 3.
    Online Courses andEnrollments Growth:
  • 4.
    Online Coordinator BeganDecember 2006 Past experience teaching with E-Education (Jones) (1999-2001) eCollege (2001-2007) Past experience admin/support for: Blackboard (2006) Position described working with WebCT and SLN…
  • 5.
    The Task… Researchand select a new system Migrate courses Train users Develop orientations, documentation, etc. By end of 2008… No time for lengthy focus group sessions, LMS comparisons, etc.
  • 6.
    Documentation Agile ProjectManagement Requirements Gathering in Confluence wiki Business, Technical, Functional Requirements: Integration with Luminis Message Broker for course setup, user enrollment via Banner Match current functions of WebCT Upload and store media files Online quizzes, discussions, etc.
  • 7.
    TCO vs. TACTotal Cost of Ownership: Include on-going services, support External costs and systems, bandwidth, electricity, exact # of minutes spent on tasks, etc. Better for analysis for new services/systems? Total Alternative Cost If we change to a new system, what alternative or additional costs will we incur, including staffing?
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    Final Selection Outsourced Open Source LMS: Moodle hosted by Moodlerooms, Inc. Do we need to hire more personnel? No. Is the LMS stable and secure? Yes.
  • 14.
    Out vs. InDownsides: A bit slower than in house (bandwidth) Help - contact another company rather than the tech around the corner Upsides: Campus outages not affected Sys Admin focused ONLY on Moodle They purchase and maintain/replace software/machines
  • 15.
    Open vs. EnterpriseRich community of user forums, tutorials, resources, bug tracker Less Cost - at all levels Luminis Message Broker Digester - $0 WebCTimport tool - $0 Just as stable and more feature-rich More social networking capability, Web 2.0 Quicker to gain new features More customizable Did I mention cost?
  • 16.
    Timeline March 2007- Hostmonster account set up with multiple instances of Moodle for training development, experimentation, etc. ($75 /year splurge) May 2007 - Course development server established June 2007 - Initial training modules developed and delivered July 2007 - Begin test Luminis Message Broker / Banner integration Fall 2007 - initial courses developed for Spring 2008 production server October 2007 - establish and test production server Spring 2008 - offer Nursing BSN and Vet Tech courses on production server Spring/Summer 2008 - additional training offered, Summer courses migrated Summer 2008 - Fall courses migrated from WebCT/SLN Fall 2008 - additional training and J-term/Spring course migration
  • 17.
    Faculty Members Concernedabout training: Took much less time than WebCT to learn Easier to use More features Exciting new possibilities iPod training program Concerned about converting courses: We do that for them Webctimport plugin from moodle.org
  • 18.
    Students Love thenew system: Easier to navigate than WebCT Like having images of fellow students Easier to follow discussions
  • 19.
    Coordinator Faculty aremore self-sufficient More fun to administer More focus on training Hosted in expert environment High level of customization More funds for faculty development
  • 20.
    Staff More interestedin using the LMS for training and staff development See LMS as a way to reach students Involved with Moodle Orientation for students No noticable difference for registration, enrollments, etc.
  • 21.
    Administration Left researchand decision in our hands Appreciate “international-ness” Bottom line: Furthering educational mission $$$: The Pot of Gold
  • 22.
    The End Questions?Clark Shah-Nelson [email_address] www.delhi.edu - Confluence wiki documentation http://blogs.nercomp.org/blogs/nac2008/ 2-3-98 - Open Source Conference and Moodle Moot at SUNY Delhi June 19/20, 2008 www.delhi.edu/2-3-98/