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Classroom Discussions
                                       Using Math Talk in Elementary
                                       Classrooms
                                       by Suzanne H. Chapin, Catherine O’Connor, and
                                       Nancy Canavan Anderson
                                       From Online Newsletter Issue Number 11, Fall 2003


Teachers typically are comfortable leading classroom discussions when teaching literature or providing
social studies instruction. They value these discussions and rely on them to support students’ learning.
However, many teachers aren’t as comfortable making use of classroom discussions for mathematics
instruction. In Classroom Discussions: Using Math Talk to Help Students Learn, Grades 1–6
(Math Solutions Publications, 2003), the authors present specific ways to lead classroom discussions
that support students’ mathematics learning and promote their ability to think, reason, and solve prob-
lems. In the book, the authors introduce five important talk moves, each a suggested action they have
found to be effective in supporting mathematical thinking and learning. They illustrate each talk move
with examples of actual classroom discussions and offer guidance to teachers for incorporating them into
their own classroom instruction. Following is a brief introduction to two talk moves presented in the
book—“revoicing” and “asking students to restate someone else’s reasoning.”
Revoicing (“So you’re saying that it’s an odd number?”)
When students talk about mathematics, it’s often very difficult to understand what they say.
Even if their reasoning is sound, it may not appear sound when they try to put their thoughts
into words. Sometimes it’s impossible to tell whether what they have said makes sense at
all. And if you as the teacher have trouble understanding it, there’s not much hope that the
student’s classmates will do any better. Yet given your goals to improve the mathematical
thinking and reasoning of all students, you cannot give up on an especially unclear student.
If the only students whose contributions are taken seriously are those who are easy to under-
stand, few students will ever improve. Deep thinking and powerful reasoning do not always
correlate with clear verbal expression.
Therefore, teachers need a talk move that can help them deal with the inevitable lack of clar-
ity of many student contributions. They need a tool that will allow them to interact with the
student in a way that will continue to involve the student in clarifying his or her own reason-
ing. And they need a tool that will help other students continue to follow along in the face of
the confusion.
One such tool has been called “revoicing.” In a revoicing move, the teacher essentially tries to
repeat some or all of what the student has said and then asks the student to respond and verify
whether or not the teacher’s revoicing is correct, as in the dialogue below.
Ms. Davies has given her third graders a series of numbers and, in a whole-group discussion,
has asked them to say whether the numbers are even or odd. They have established that if you
can divide a number by two evenly, then it is an even number. Philipe has tackled the number
24. His contribution is less than completely clear.

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Classroom Discussions Using Math Talk in Elementary Classrooms, continued


    1. Philipe: Well, if we could use three, then it could go into that, but three is odd. So
    then if it was . . . but . . . three is even. I mean odd. So if it’s odd, then it’s not even.
    2. Ms. D: OK, let me see if I understand. So you’re saying that twenty-four is an odd
    number?
    3. Philipe: Yeah. Because three goes into it, because twenty-four divided by three is
    eight.
After hearing Philipe’s confusing contribution, all Ms. Davies could grasp was that Philipe
might be saying that 24 is odd. She hazards a guess in the form of a revoicing move: “So you’re
saying that twenty-four is an odd number?” By phrasing this guess as a question, she is essen-
tially asking Philipe if her understanding is correct. By using this move, she gives him a chance
to clarify. As it works out, he shows he did intend to claim that 24 is an odd number, and he
gives his reason. By opening this conversational space for Philipe to respond, Ms. Davies has
learned that he has a basic misconception about even and odd numbers. She has gained a foot-
hold in the discussion that she did not have after simply hearing Philipe’s first contribution.
While revoicing is especially useful in situations such as that described here with Philipe, it’s
also an effective move when you understand what a student has said but aren’t sure that the
other students in the class understand. Revoicing can make one student’s idea available to
others, give them time to hear it again, position a student’s claim with respect to a previous
student’s claim in order to create the basis for an ongoing discussion, or focus on a change that
has occurred in the discussion. Revoicing provides more thinking space and can help all stu-
dents track what is going on mathematically.
Asking students to restate someone else’s reasoning (“Can you repeat what he just said in
your own words?”)
In the previous example, the revoicing move was used by the teacher. However, the teacher
can also extend the move to students, by asking one student to repeat or rephrase what an-
other student has said and then immediately following up with the first student. Ms. Davies
used this move to continue the classroom conversation.
    4. Ms. D: Can anyone repeat what Philipe just said in his or her own words? Miranda?
    5. Miranda: Um, I think I can. I think he said that twenty-four is odd, because it can be
    divided by three.
    6. Ms. D: Is that right, Philipe? Is that what you said?
    7. Philipe: Yes.
This move has several potential benefits. First, it gives the rest of the class another rendition
of the first student’s contribution. It gives them more time to process Philipe’s statement and
adds to the likelihood that they will follow the conversation and understand his point. It there-
by supports the teacher’s goal of full access to participation. This move is particularly valuable
for students whose first language is not English. Second, this move provides evidence that the
other students could and did hear what Philipe said. This is important: if students could not or


       150 Gate 5 Road, Suite 101 • Sausalito, CA 94965 • www.mathsolutions.com • (800) 868-9092    2
                  Copyright © 2003 Marilyn Burns Education Associates. All rights reserved.
Classroom Discussions Using Math Talk in Elementary Classrooms, continued

did not hear what a speaker said, they cannot easily participate in further exchanges. Finally,
it yet again clarifies the claim that Philipe is making and provides Philipe with evidence that
his thinking is being taken seriously. Over time, as students come to realize that people are
listening closely to what they say, they increasingly make efforts to make their contributions
comprehensible.




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                 Copyright © 2003 Marilyn Burns Education Associates. All rights reserved.

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Math Talk

  • 1. Classroom Discussions Using Math Talk in Elementary Classrooms by Suzanne H. Chapin, Catherine O’Connor, and Nancy Canavan Anderson From Online Newsletter Issue Number 11, Fall 2003 Teachers typically are comfortable leading classroom discussions when teaching literature or providing social studies instruction. They value these discussions and rely on them to support students’ learning. However, many teachers aren’t as comfortable making use of classroom discussions for mathematics instruction. In Classroom Discussions: Using Math Talk to Help Students Learn, Grades 1–6 (Math Solutions Publications, 2003), the authors present specific ways to lead classroom discussions that support students’ mathematics learning and promote their ability to think, reason, and solve prob- lems. In the book, the authors introduce five important talk moves, each a suggested action they have found to be effective in supporting mathematical thinking and learning. They illustrate each talk move with examples of actual classroom discussions and offer guidance to teachers for incorporating them into their own classroom instruction. Following is a brief introduction to two talk moves presented in the book—“revoicing” and “asking students to restate someone else’s reasoning.” Revoicing (“So you’re saying that it’s an odd number?”) When students talk about mathematics, it’s often very difficult to understand what they say. Even if their reasoning is sound, it may not appear sound when they try to put their thoughts into words. Sometimes it’s impossible to tell whether what they have said makes sense at all. And if you as the teacher have trouble understanding it, there’s not much hope that the student’s classmates will do any better. Yet given your goals to improve the mathematical thinking and reasoning of all students, you cannot give up on an especially unclear student. If the only students whose contributions are taken seriously are those who are easy to under- stand, few students will ever improve. Deep thinking and powerful reasoning do not always correlate with clear verbal expression. Therefore, teachers need a talk move that can help them deal with the inevitable lack of clar- ity of many student contributions. They need a tool that will allow them to interact with the student in a way that will continue to involve the student in clarifying his or her own reason- ing. And they need a tool that will help other students continue to follow along in the face of the confusion. One such tool has been called “revoicing.” In a revoicing move, the teacher essentially tries to repeat some or all of what the student has said and then asks the student to respond and verify whether or not the teacher’s revoicing is correct, as in the dialogue below. Ms. Davies has given her third graders a series of numbers and, in a whole-group discussion, has asked them to say whether the numbers are even or odd. They have established that if you can divide a number by two evenly, then it is an even number. Philipe has tackled the number 24. His contribution is less than completely clear. 150 Gate 5 Road, Suite 101 • Sausalito, CA 94965 • www.mathsolutions.com • (800) 868-9092 1 Copyright © 2003 Marilyn Burns Education Associates. All rights reserved.
  • 2. Classroom Discussions Using Math Talk in Elementary Classrooms, continued 1. Philipe: Well, if we could use three, then it could go into that, but three is odd. So then if it was . . . but . . . three is even. I mean odd. So if it’s odd, then it’s not even. 2. Ms. D: OK, let me see if I understand. So you’re saying that twenty-four is an odd number? 3. Philipe: Yeah. Because three goes into it, because twenty-four divided by three is eight. After hearing Philipe’s confusing contribution, all Ms. Davies could grasp was that Philipe might be saying that 24 is odd. She hazards a guess in the form of a revoicing move: “So you’re saying that twenty-four is an odd number?” By phrasing this guess as a question, she is essen- tially asking Philipe if her understanding is correct. By using this move, she gives him a chance to clarify. As it works out, he shows he did intend to claim that 24 is an odd number, and he gives his reason. By opening this conversational space for Philipe to respond, Ms. Davies has learned that he has a basic misconception about even and odd numbers. She has gained a foot- hold in the discussion that she did not have after simply hearing Philipe’s first contribution. While revoicing is especially useful in situations such as that described here with Philipe, it’s also an effective move when you understand what a student has said but aren’t sure that the other students in the class understand. Revoicing can make one student’s idea available to others, give them time to hear it again, position a student’s claim with respect to a previous student’s claim in order to create the basis for an ongoing discussion, or focus on a change that has occurred in the discussion. Revoicing provides more thinking space and can help all stu- dents track what is going on mathematically. Asking students to restate someone else’s reasoning (“Can you repeat what he just said in your own words?”) In the previous example, the revoicing move was used by the teacher. However, the teacher can also extend the move to students, by asking one student to repeat or rephrase what an- other student has said and then immediately following up with the first student. Ms. Davies used this move to continue the classroom conversation. 4. Ms. D: Can anyone repeat what Philipe just said in his or her own words? Miranda? 5. Miranda: Um, I think I can. I think he said that twenty-four is odd, because it can be divided by three. 6. Ms. D: Is that right, Philipe? Is that what you said? 7. Philipe: Yes. This move has several potential benefits. First, it gives the rest of the class another rendition of the first student’s contribution. It gives them more time to process Philipe’s statement and adds to the likelihood that they will follow the conversation and understand his point. It there- by supports the teacher’s goal of full access to participation. This move is particularly valuable for students whose first language is not English. Second, this move provides evidence that the other students could and did hear what Philipe said. This is important: if students could not or 150 Gate 5 Road, Suite 101 • Sausalito, CA 94965 • www.mathsolutions.com • (800) 868-9092 2 Copyright © 2003 Marilyn Burns Education Associates. All rights reserved.
  • 3. Classroom Discussions Using Math Talk in Elementary Classrooms, continued did not hear what a speaker said, they cannot easily participate in further exchanges. Finally, it yet again clarifies the claim that Philipe is making and provides Philipe with evidence that his thinking is being taken seriously. Over time, as students come to realize that people are listening closely to what they say, they increasingly make efforts to make their contributions comprehensible. 150 Gate 5 Road, Suite 101 • Sausalito, CA 94965 • www.mathsolutions.com • (800) 868-9092 3 Copyright © 2003 Marilyn Burns Education Associates. All rights reserved.