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The Chat Shop
Real people. Real conversations.
Maintaining a brand online through
engagement and dialogue
CIPR – The Wild Wild Web
Jonny Everett
The meaning of engagement
and dialogue
Engaging (adj) = interesting

Glance à Skim read à In depth à Sharing à Dialogue



Dialogue = conversation with 2 or more people

To be truly engaging and create dialogue that matters we must make brands remarkable
“Remarkability: The same bias toward art exists in the way
we choose which ideas we’ll share with our friends and
colleagues. No one talks about the boring, the predictable,
or the safe. We don’t risk interactions to spread the word
about something obvious or trite.” 

- Seth Godin, The Icarus Deception
SIX WAYS TO MAKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU

PRINCIPLE 1
Become genuinely interested in other people.

PRINCIPLE 2
Smile.

PRINCIPLE 3
Remember that a person’s name is to that person the sweetest and most
important sound in any language.

PRINCIPLE 4
Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves.

PRINCIPLE 5
Talk in terms of the other person’s interests.

PRINCIPLE 6
Make the other person feel important – and do it sincerely.
SIX WAYS TO MAKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU

PRINCIPLE 1
Become genuinely interested in other people.

PRINCIPLE 2
Smile.

PRINCIPLE 3
Remember that a person’s name is to that person the sweetest and most
important sound in any language.

PRINCIPLE 4
Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves.

PRINCIPLE 5
Talk in terms of the other person’s interests.

PRINCIPLE 6
Make the other person feel important – and do it sincerely.
Encourage others to talk
about themselves
You no longer control the information your consumers access about your brand

You cannot shape their opinion from marketing alone

It is a total experience, influenced by others talking about your brand

Customers will be engaged in dialogue about your brand

It may be negative! How can brands deal with this?


You’ve lost control
The Chat Shop
Real people. Real conversations.
See Principle 2: Smile
How did they react?
Customer (@grahamcummings7): 

"@O2 F**K You! Suck d**k in hell"
O2 response: 

" Maybe later, got tweets to send"
Why’s it important to encourage 
others to talk about themselves?
Business forecast to spend $214.3 BN on advertising in 2011

But…

Only 4% of Americans trust advertising the most as a source for product of 
service information1

More than 60% of consumers are influenced by other consumers’ comments about
companies2
1. Zendesk
2. ClickFox
93% see real-time help being beneficial during their online customer journey*

73% of customers are satisfied with Live Chat, compared with email and 
telephone (both 61%)*

If you encourage your customers to talk about themselves, they’ll 
help you maintain your brand online – for free!
And customers like tools that allow
them to talk about themselves!
*LivePerson
SIX WAYS TO MAKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU

PRINCIPLE 1
Become genuinely interested in other people.

PRINCIPLE 2
Smile.

PRINCIPLE 3
Remember that a person’s name is to that person the sweetest and most
important sound in any language.

PRINCIPLE 4
Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves.

PRINCIPLE 5
Talk in terms of the other person’s interests.

PRINCIPLE 6
Make the other person feel important – and do it sincerely.
What are customers’ interests?
Zendesk
Zendesk
Zendesk
Make your customers feel
like superheroes
How do you maintain a brand online?
So in summary
Encourage others to talk about themselves and
make it easy to do so
(smile when they’re nasty)
Talk in terms of the other person’s interests
Customers are interested in an incredible
customer experience
Maximise key brand experiences to create
great customer dialogue
The Chat Shop
Real people. Real conversations.
Thank You
(You lovely people you!)
@JonnyChats
www.thechatshop.co.uk

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Maintaing a brand online through engagement and dialogue - Jonny Everett, The Chat Shop

  • 1. The Chat Shop Real people. Real conversations. Maintaining a brand online through engagement and dialogue CIPR – The Wild Wild Web Jonny Everett
  • 2. The meaning of engagement and dialogue Engaging (adj) = interesting Glance à Skim read à In depth à Sharing à Dialogue Dialogue = conversation with 2 or more people To be truly engaging and create dialogue that matters we must make brands remarkable
  • 3. “Remarkability: The same bias toward art exists in the way we choose which ideas we’ll share with our friends and colleagues. No one talks about the boring, the predictable, or the safe. We don’t risk interactions to spread the word about something obvious or trite.” - Seth Godin, The Icarus Deception
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  • 5. SIX WAYS TO MAKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU PRINCIPLE 1 Become genuinely interested in other people. PRINCIPLE 2 Smile. PRINCIPLE 3 Remember that a person’s name is to that person the sweetest and most important sound in any language. PRINCIPLE 4 Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves. PRINCIPLE 5 Talk in terms of the other person’s interests. PRINCIPLE 6 Make the other person feel important – and do it sincerely.
  • 6. SIX WAYS TO MAKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU PRINCIPLE 1 Become genuinely interested in other people. PRINCIPLE 2 Smile. PRINCIPLE 3 Remember that a person’s name is to that person the sweetest and most important sound in any language. PRINCIPLE 4 Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves. PRINCIPLE 5 Talk in terms of the other person’s interests. PRINCIPLE 6 Make the other person feel important – and do it sincerely.
  • 7. Encourage others to talk about themselves
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  • 9. You no longer control the information your consumers access about your brand You cannot shape their opinion from marketing alone It is a total experience, influenced by others talking about your brand Customers will be engaged in dialogue about your brand It may be negative! How can brands deal with this? You’ve lost control
  • 10. The Chat Shop Real people. Real conversations. See Principle 2: Smile
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  • 12. How did they react?
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  • 14. Customer (@grahamcummings7): "@O2 F**K You! Suck d**k in hell"
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  • 16. O2 response: " Maybe later, got tweets to send"
  • 17. Why’s it important to encourage others to talk about themselves? Business forecast to spend $214.3 BN on advertising in 2011 But… Only 4% of Americans trust advertising the most as a source for product of service information1 More than 60% of consumers are influenced by other consumers’ comments about companies2 1. Zendesk 2. ClickFox
  • 18. 93% see real-time help being beneficial during their online customer journey* 73% of customers are satisfied with Live Chat, compared with email and telephone (both 61%)* If you encourage your customers to talk about themselves, they’ll help you maintain your brand online – for free! And customers like tools that allow them to talk about themselves! *LivePerson
  • 19. SIX WAYS TO MAKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU PRINCIPLE 1 Become genuinely interested in other people. PRINCIPLE 2 Smile. PRINCIPLE 3 Remember that a person’s name is to that person the sweetest and most important sound in any language. PRINCIPLE 4 Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves. PRINCIPLE 5 Talk in terms of the other person’s interests. PRINCIPLE 6 Make the other person feel important – and do it sincerely.
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  • 24. What are customers’ interests?
  • 28. Make your customers feel like superheroes
  • 29. How do you maintain a brand online? So in summary
  • 30. Encourage others to talk about themselves and make it easy to do so (smile when they’re nasty)
  • 31. Talk in terms of the other person’s interests Customers are interested in an incredible customer experience
  • 32. Maximise key brand experiences to create great customer dialogue
  • 33. The Chat Shop Real people. Real conversations. Thank You (You lovely people you!) @JonnyChats www.thechatshop.co.uk