The document summarizes a discussion from a Stockholm futurists meetup about the concepts of "abundance" and "limits to growth". It outlines Peter Diamandis' view of an abundant future driven by exponential technology versus Paul Gilding's argument for "The Great Disruption" due to planetary limits. The two perspectives map to Jim Dator's "continuation" and "collapse" generic futures. The discussion explores which view to trust given different scientists' assumptions, how values may shift from growth to sufficiency, and whether new technologies appear cool or creepy.