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KIOS GEROBAK
2.0
GEROBAK
MOBILE
LARGE
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DLAB
LARGE 2.0
SUNBURST GEROBAK
1.0
LOTTE
Same size, cheaper,
knockdown
Accommodate low
ceiling spots
Accommodate low
floor area space
Semi mobile, can be
moved if needed
Accommodate indoor
area space
Improvement of Large
1.0. Neon box branding
Refurbish readymade
carts to fit our
products
Very small cart for
indoor, medium cart for
outdoor
Improvement of
Gerobak 1.0. Additional
furniture
Growth Engine
Data Driven
Execution Power
30
Thanks.
Ask me anything!
@sofianhw
Hendra Kwik
T O N I G H T ’ S S P E A K E R
Growth & Product Roadmap
Gustaf Alstromer & Hendra
Y Combinator Partner & Alum
Partner Product Hustler
Payfazz Team
2016-2019
Payfazz Team
2016-2019
Payfazz Team
2016-2019
Payfazz Team
2016-2019
Startups = Growth
Airbnb Growth team 2015
Ycombinator Growth 2005-2019
Payfazz Growth
2016-2019
Payfazz Team
2016-2019
Why is growth important?
Who is this talk really for?
Disclaimer: This advice doesn’t
apply to everyone yet
1.5B
1.25B
1.0B
750M
500M
250M
2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015
Translations
Mobile
Internet.org
Facebook’s growth story
Natural adoption will always slow
down over time but...
You can impact your
growth rate.
Don’t have a growth team if you
haven’t found product-market-fit
1. Identify the metrics that represent the value my
users get from my product
1. Measure the repeat usage of that metrics
Product Market Fit
Measuring product market fit
Company Metric that represent value Ideal frequency
Airbnb Bookings / Stays Annual
Facebook Active users Daily
Gusto Running employee payroll By-weekly/Monthly
Lyft Rides Weekly/Monhtly
Payfazz Transacting Agents Daily/Weekly
Now, measure your retention
Metric
(in %)
Time
Measuring retention. This is a bad product
This is a great product with product market fit.
10% after 1 month. 12% after 12 months.
Shopify
50% after 1 month. 10% after 24 months
Blue Apron
70% after 12 months. 30% after 7 years!
Netflix
60% after 12 months. 38% after 2 years!
Payfazz
Raise your hand if you are
measuring your retention rate
There are also other ways to
measure product market fit
Growth or Marketing?
Growth channels & tactics
Three ways to grow at scale
1. Product Growth / Growth Engineering
3. Performance Marketing
5. Brand Marketing
• You product is a funnel
• Every step in the funnel have drop-off
Product Growth:
Conversion rate optimization
Conversion rate optimization Areas
• Internationalization
• Authentication
• Onboarding
• Purchase conversion
Company Ideal frequency
Is this a rare behaviour that people use Google
to find a solution?
Google SEO & SEM
Do existing users already share your product via
word-of-mouth?
Virality & Referrals
Does having more users improve the
experience?
Virality
Do I already know who each of my future users
are?
Sales
Do my users have high LTV? Paid Acquisition (Facebook, Google etc)
Growth channels to explore
Referrals & Virality
Referrals Word-of-mouth is Airbnb’s largest growth
driver
Referrals is engineered word-of-mouth
Referrals Product
Referrals Funnel
View referrals page
Users sending invites + Sharing
Reach (Invitees Per Inviter) + Sharing
Conversion Rate to New User
Weekly active users who saw entry point
Conversion Rate to New Guest / Host
First time nights
Email Direct Email ImportDirect
Referral
“Hooks”
Invitation
s
Sign
Up
Booking
s
Referrals Invite
email
Social
proof
Social
proof
Exclusivit
y
Urgenc
y
Clear
value
Referrals Invite
email
Paid Growth
Paid Growth
• Don’t do paid growth if you don’t have revenue
• CAC = Customer Acquisition Cost
• CAC / Payback time (Most important metric in online marketing)
• Attribution
• Channels: Facebook, Instagram, Google, Youtube
Search Engine Optimization
What you see
What Google see
SEO - Two main levers
On-page optimization
• Every optimization starts with keyword research.
• Which page am I trying to rank for what keyword?
• SEO Experimentation
Off-page optimization
• Who is linking to you?
Making Decisions
Most of the world will make decisions
by either guessing or using their gut.
They will either be lucky or wrong.
- Mixpanel
Decisions have consequences
Use experimentation to
validate your decisions
Experiment Review
Control Experiment
iOS Sharing Sheet
Metric: Shares
Place your bets
Control Experiment
iOS Sharing Sheet
Metric: Shares
+ 40%
Control:
“Join Joe’s Trip”
Experiment:
“Accept Joe’s Trip Invitation”
Airbnb Trip Invitation Email
Metric: Signups
Control:
“Join Joe’s Trip”
Experiment:
“Accept Joe’s Trip Invitation”
Airbnb Trip Invitation Email
Metric: Signups
+ 14%
Control Square buttons w.
Labels
Sharing Icons
Metric: Shares
Round Buttons
Control Square buttons w.
Labels
Sharing Icons
Metric: Shares
+ 18%
Round Buttons
+ 52%
Product decisions are hard
1. Startup = Growth
2. Measure your retention
3. Choose a north star metric and set a goal
4. Build a culture of experimentation
Summary
Email: hendra.kwik@payfazz.com
Linkedin: Hendra Kwik, IG: @hendra.kwik
Thank you &
Questions
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