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Experiencing beyond experience
This document discusses living in the present moment beyond identification with the ego and mind. It describes how identification with the physical body, mind, intellect and emotions leads to limited and disturbed living marked by endless desires, exhaustion, and eventual death. In contrast, realizing the eternal self/consciousness beyond these identifications through practices like yoga, meditation and surrender leads to unlimited bliss and being established in silence. Vedanta helps one transcend experience and attachments to experience peacefully in any situation.
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Experiencing beyond experience
- 1. ExperiencingExperiencing BeyondBeyond ExperienceExperience Dedicated to theLotus feet of the GuruDedicated to the Lotus feet of the Guru Prabhakar AnanthaswamyPrabhakar Ananthaswamy
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- 3. The Joy ofSheer LivingThe Joy of Sheer Living Are we not Living ……?Are we not Living ……?
- 4. I / Mine Howare we Living?How are we Living?
- 5. Identification Perceiving Pursuing Limited Insecurity CuriousConcern Possess Protect React I
- 6. II Never ending Will-to-KnowNeverending Will-to-Know Never ending Will to doNever ending Will to do Never ending Will to possessNever ending Will to possess ExhaustionExhaustion Eventual deathEventual death
- 7. MineMine Likes Dislikes Hot Cold BeautifulUgly Love Hate Rich Poor Gain Loss Successful Failure Good Bad Ethical Unethical Punya Papa Dharma Adharma Life Death…
- 8. My family My Wealth Myname My Power My city My Country My religion…
- 9. Our PursuitsOur Pursuits •How to build a successful careerHow to build a successful career • How to become richHow to become rich • How to make WealthHow to make Wealth • How to win FriendsHow to win Friends • How to influence peopleHow to influence people • How to say NoHow to say No • Knowledge, Power, Position, Name, Sex,Knowledge, Power, Position, Name, Sex, Money………Money………
- 10. Kama Desire Krodha AngerDeaf Lobha Greed Moha Infatuation Dumb Madha Pride Matsarya Jealousy Blind Outcome…
- 11. ConcernConcern •Concern about Oneself •Health,Career, position, future… •Concern about concerned •Family, nation, religion, organisation… •Concerned about Unconcerned •Unseen, Unknown… Adidaivika, adyatmika, adiboutika
- 12. ConcernConcern CompareCompare ConfusionConfusion ConflictConflict StrikeStrike RevoltRevolt WarWar Fighting for Justice Fightingfor Rights Fighting for Freedom Fighting for Liberation
- 13. CuriosityCuriosity Delusion They won’t letus be our Real Selves Concern Dejection
- 14. MisconceptionMisconception about oneself andthe world outsideabout oneself and the world outside root cause of all problemsroot cause of all problems Ignorance Desire Action Agitation Bondage Helplessness
- 15. How are weLiving…?How are we Living…? • LimitedLimited • RelativeRelative • ChangingChanging • TemporaryTemporary • DisturbedDisturbed – StateState
- 16. Outcome… • DisturbedDisturbed • AgitatedAgitated •StressedStressed • AnxiousAnxious • WorriedWorried • AfraidAfraid • AngryAngry • GossipGossip • FrustratedFrustrated • SuppressedSuppressed • DepressedDepressed • DestructiveDestructive Conditional Happiness (dissipating energy, efficiency comes down)
- 17. Our limited Solutions…Ourlimited Solutions… • Running from pillar to postRunning from pillar to post – AstrologersAstrologers – GodGod • Stress / Time management courseStress / Time management course • Personality developmentPersonality development • When nothing WorksWhen nothing Works – Blame game – Kaliyuga, planets, VaastuBlame game – Kaliyuga, planets, Vaastu – Possessed by evilPossessed by evil
- 18. Experiencing and beyond…Experiencingand beyond… Precondition & Bias –Precondition & Bias – SelfishSelfish -- AgitationAgitation -- UnconditionedUnconditioned Selfless actionSelfless action PeacePeace
- 19. Open system ModelOpensystem Model
- 20. PersonalityPersonality • PhysicalPhysical • EnergyEnergy •MindMind • IntellectIntellect • EmotionEmotion Happy, Elated… Sad, Dejected…
- 21. PhysicalPhysical • ColorColor • HeightHeight •WeightWeight • QualificationQualification • ReligionReligion • NationalityNationality ( food to food)
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- 23. MindMind • UnlimitedUnlimited • UnwantedUnwanted •UnconnectedUnconnected • UnconcernedUnconcerned • UnexplainableUnexplainable • UncontrollableUncontrollable • CrazyCrazy – ThoughtsThoughts Creativity Art, ‘R&D’… Confusion Restlessness Agitation … Space Time Situation
- 24. IntellectIntellect • DataData • InformationInformation •KnowledgeKnowledge • IntelligentIntelligent Dualities Recalling Decision Undirected Intellect is Mind Directed Mind is Intellect… Logic Limitation Space Time Situation
- 25. EGO PersonalityPersonality Consciousness Physical - Doer Mind- Seer / Seen (perceiver) Intellect - Knower / Known / Knowledge Emotion - Enjoyer / Sufferer
- 26. PersonalityPersonality Sum Total ofall the past experience is whatSum Total of all the past experience is what PersonalityPersonality all aboutall about Each layer is subject to change.Each layer is subject to change. ““PersonalityPersonality isis one of Changing and Growingone of Changing and Growing ”” It isIt is DynamicDynamic and notand not StaticStatic..
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- 28. Krishna, Allah, JesusKrishna,Allah, Jesus...... • UnlimitedUnlimited • AbsoluteAbsolute • ChangelessChangeless • PermanentPermanent • Eternal SelfEternal Self • UntouchedUntouched • UnmanifestedUnmanifested • UnseenUnseen • Non IdentificationNon Identification Decay-less Disease-less Death-less Source & Destination Fearless Blissful Peaceful StateState • Pure ConsciousnessPure Consciousness
- 29. Consciousness Intellect Mind Sense organs objects ofthe world Self……?
- 30. AbsoluteAbsolute •Sleep •Involuntary Non IdentificationState •Death •Permanent & Involuntary Non Identification State •Life after death •Waking from the non identification state into a different body mind complex. •Samadhi •Voluntary Non Identification State (Seed)
- 31. RealtiveRealtive • Waking – Involuntaryidentification state (Physical) • DreamingDreaming – Involuntary identification state (Mind)Involuntary identification state (Mind)
- 32. SelfSelf • AbsoluteAbsolute • KshetragnaKshetragna •PurushaPurusha • UnmanifestedUnmanifested • UnlimitedUnlimited • EternalEternal • ChangelessChangeless • Pure consciousnessPure consciousness • Non identifiedNon identified • NirgunaNirguna • RelativeRelative • KshetraKshetra • PrakritiPrakriti • ManifestedManifested • LimitedLimited • TemporaryTemporary • ChangingChanging • Relative consciousnessRelative consciousness • IdentifiedIdentified • SagunaSaguna
- 33. YogaYoga UnionUnion With ThatWith ThatSelfSelf Which isWhich is The base of ExistenceThe base of Existence
- 34. YogaYoga • PhysicalPhysical AsanaAsana •EnergyEnergy PranayamaPranayama • MindMind MeditationMeditation • IntellectIntellect SatsangSatsang • EmotionEmotion Blissful state Yama Niyama Asana Karma Pranayama Pratyahara Dharana Jnana Dhyana Samadi Bhakti
- 35. AsanaAsana Postures to makeone comfortable at thePostures to make one comfortable at the physical levelphysical level
- 36. PranayamaPranayama • Breathing In,Out, HoldingBreathing In, Out, Holding • Conscious BreathingConscious Breathing • Energizing every part of the bodyEnergizing every part of the body
- 37. Lack of Knowledge Unsteady Un steady Cannot Meditate Un Meditative No Peace Without Peace How can there be happiness?!
- 38. MeditationMeditation Peaceful mind needsno mediation Disturbed mind cannot meditate. Yet there is a meditator…
- 39. Control Mind –Sense organs gives way Control sense organs – Mind slips Shift focus Controlling Mind / Sense organs is absurdity
- 40. MeditationMeditation JapaJapa SSYSSY TMTM Yoga NidraYoga Nidra Wedelve deep into ourselves without external aids… It is a limited and temporary solution…
- 41. SatsangSatsang • Company ofRealised PersonCompany of Realised Person • Reveling in the SelfReveling in the Self Open Dynamic (Coping with change) Accept Adapt Forgive Enjoy Forget
- 42. Less and lessto no importance to oneself and world outside – Respect / Don’t hate Not doing anyone a favour but oneself You learn not to disturb the environment because If you disturb the environment you have to live in the disturbed environment I / Mine
- 43. Religion Collection of thoughts Rituals Reunites us with the unlimited Needs no appendages
- 44. SpiritualitySpirituality • Seeing DivineSeeingDivine • Hearing DivineHearing Divine • Listening DivineListening Divine • Thinking DivineThinking Divine Divinity is theDivinity is the UUnlimitednlimited SSelfelf within uswithin us Spirituality is seeing one same unlimitedSpirituality is seeing one same unlimited Divine nature in oneself and in othersDivine nature in oneself and in others Spirituality is grossly misunderstood
- 45. Viveka Discriminate Unreal / Real Temporary/ Permanent Limited / unlimited Relative / Absolute Changing / Changeless Vairagya Detachment Not to - pursue / give importance to the limited, changing, Temporary… …Ananda (eternal happiness) follows
- 46. Pancha mahabhutas: Space, Air,Fire, water, earth Pancha Tanmatras: Sound, Feeling, Sight, Taste, Smell EGO MIND INTELLECT Pancha Jnanedriyas: Ears, Skin, Eyes, Tongue, Nose, Pancha Karmendriyas: Arms, Legs, Voice, excretion, Reproduction Pure Consciousness
- 47. Sat Chit (Ananda) Space..Sound Space, Air .. Sound, Feeling Space, Air, Fire …Sound, Feeling, Form Space, Air, Fire, Water ….Sound, Feeling, Form, Taste Space, Air, Fire, Water, Earth …..Sound, Feeling, Form, Taste, Smell EGO MIND INTELECT Space.. Sound: Ear Space, Air .. Sound, Feeling: Ear, Skin Space, Air, Fire …Sound, Feeling, Form: Ear, Skin, Eyes Space, Air, Fire, Water ….Sound, Feeling, Form, Taste: Ear, Skin, Eyes, Tongue Space, Air, Fire, Water, Earth …..Sound, Feeling, Form, Taste, Smell: Ear, Skin, Eyes, Tongue, Nose Throat Arms Legs Reproduction Excretion ISHWARA Hiranya Garbha JIVA, Individual
- 48. E M I Guru Sravana, Manana, Nidhidyasana (satsanga,Nissanga, Nirmoha, Nischalatatwa, jeevan mukti) Karma Bhakti Jnana Unmanifest Sat, Chit, (Ananda , Shanti, Freedom…) Enjoyer Sufferer Confusion Conflict Strike Revolting War Accident Disease Volcano Tornado Hurricane… Samsara Temporary Changing Perishable Birth Child Youth Middle age Old age Death Bramhacharya Grihasta Vanaprasta Sanyasa Past Present Future Dawn Day Dusk Waking Dreaming Sleep Gunas Dualities Ashanti Samskara Precondition Desire Likes / Dislikes Action Bondage Thought Desire Attachment Anxiety/ Anger Delusion Loss of Memory Destruction Manifest Brahmana Kshatriya Vysya Shudra Seconds, Minutes, Hours, Days, week, Months, Seasons, Years, Life, Kalpas, Yugas Knower Doer Enjoyer/ sufferer Knowledge Power Position Name Sex Wealth Kama Krodha Lobha Moha Mada Matsarya Satya Laoka Tapo Loka Jana Loka Mahar Loka Svar Loka Bhuvar Loka Bhur Loka Atala Vitala Sutala Tala-Tala Rasatala Mahatala Patala Sahasrara Agna Vishuddha Anahata Manipura Svadhishtana Mooladara Satwa Rajas Tamas
- 49. Samsara Gunas Dwandwa Ashanti Samskara Precondition Likes / dislikes Action Bondage Sat,Chit, Ananda Y O G A Bhakti Surrender Prapati Jnana Viveka Vairaghya Thyaga
- 50. Joy of sheerLivingJoy of sheer Living • Living Peacefully without external aids irrespective ofLiving Peacefully without external aids irrespective of situation, time, circumstances, not - complaining, arguingsituation, time, circumstances, not - complaining, arguing Lotus untouched by water and filth around Selfishness Selflessness Limited Unlimited Disturbed Blissful state
- 51. It becomes relevantwhen worldly things become irrelevant… Relevance of Vedic Truths…
- 52. It comes toour rescue irrespective of time, space and situation when worldly things fail to stand by us
- 53. It addresses theentire Universe and not caste, creed, colour, nationality, region, religion or sex… Divine Human Animal
- 54. Veda is experience •Thereis no beginning or end to experience •We get caught up – unending experience •We don’t know how to come out of it Vedanta • Helps in transcending all experience • Going through the experience but untouched by the experience
- 55. Vedanta leads toDivine Consciousness Pure Consciousness Eternal Self
- 56. Vedanta leads toselflessness Self-discipline Self-reliance Fearlessness Detachment, accept and adapt, forgive and forget, compassion and tolerance becomes ones own very nature; one need not cultivate these things
- 57. Vedanta Leads toSilence Peace will be established within, naturally, without any external aids, and is sustained under all circum stances and at all times In between thoughts In between action During Sleep In between lives Non Identification state
- 58. Age old scienceis not an old age pastime It is for the young at threshold of life Vedic truth is the message for any millennium… Rig - Establish in Silence Yagur Sama - Sustain the Silence Atarvana Vedanta its ClassificationsVedanta its Classifications Samhita Brahmana Aranyaka Upanishad
- 59. Vedic TruthsVedic Truths •PanchakoshaPanchakosha • AvastatrayaAvastatraya • GunasGunas • VarnaashramaVarnaashrama • Action based on classificationAction based on classification • Relative/Absolute…Relative/Absolute… •Human beingHuman being •Cultured mindCultured mind •DimensionlessDimensionless •Outcome bharat / BharatiyaOutcome bharat / Bharatiya (Unlimited)(Unlimited)
- 60. Vedanta SacrificeVedanta Sacrifice Yagna RigVeda Hotara Invokes the sacrificial fire Yagur Veda Advaryu Sustains the fire by offering Sama Veda Udgatar sustains the fire by singing the glory PurnahutiPurnahuti BrahmanBrahman VibhutiVibhuti Avadhuta…Avadhuta…
- 61. GoalGoal Concentration Distraction Curiosity Interest Importance Add Value At anycost Effort Effortless action Enjoy
- 62. Desire Fulfill Action One Action Leadsto the other We are caught up in chain of actions Bondage Art of Non-DoingArt of Non-Doing
- 63. Desire Un Fulfilled Fulfill SuppressionFair Means Depression God Destruction Stoop to any action Stopping all desire is like trimming a plant
- 64. Out Come ofDesire Sufferer Enjoyer Mirage Ocean Exhaustion
- 65. Who shuns ActionWhoshuns Action • Lack of knowledgeLack of knowledge • Lack of facilitiesLack of facilities • Body ailmentsBody ailments • Not interestedNot interested • ComplexComplex • Fear of failureFear of failure
- 66. Complex Any thing Newis complex Break the problem into smaller units for which one can give a Solution
- 67. Prerequisite For anaction Knowledge Pros and Cons Plan Execute - One Job at a time
- 68. Doing everything Getting Thingsdone Distributed Action Ignorance Dynamic Arrogance Carelessness Fall
- 69. Body Sense Organs Mind Intellect Time Action toget executed
- 70. Motivation For anyAction Action Money Name Fame Power Status Unique – one in thousand one among thousand
- 71. Problem with Action Lingeringin the past Action I Should have done this I should not have done this No one can do this as I have done I can get more I have prayed God People don’t recognize me Only I can do it I cannot do it – fear of failure Cannot Live without action -Reacting, Bondage
- 72. Act (to forgetoneself and the world outside) Don’t shun action (idle mind is devils workshop) Never Claim (fall- world will go on with or without me) Don’t give importance to fruits of action (freedom) Don’t give importance to doership (Liberation) - Act do not React Not renunciation of action - Renunciation in action
- 73. Consciousness Intellect Mind Sense organs Sense objects LongTerm memory Static Memory Curiosity Interest Importance Value Short term Memory Dynamic memory Refreshing
- 74. • KarmaKarma – ActionAction •Karma phalaKarma phala – Fruits of actionFruits of action • Karma bandanaKarma bandana – ReactingReacting • Karma yogaKarma yoga – Not bound by fruits of actionNot bound by fruits of action • Karma SanyasaKarma Sanyasa – No doership, No motives, yet actingNo doership, No motives, yet acting
- 75. Words – AllWords – All words in right order – Recalling all the words in right order (Medha) Understanding Words – Understanding all the words in right order (Saraswathi) Getting Information Getting established in Knowledge – Wisdom irrespective of time and situation (Sharada)
- 76. Identification based onActionIdentification based on Action • BrahmanaBrahmana – Head, Creative thinking,Head, Creative thinking, thinking of Brahmanthinking of Brahman • KshatriyaKshatriya – Shoulder, Development,Shoulder, Development, ProtectionProtection • VyshyaVyshya – Thighs, Production,Thighs, Production, sustenance / distributionsustenance / distribution • ShudraShudra – Legs, following orders,Legs, following orders, labourlabour I N D I V I D U A L S O C I E T Y
- 77. Karma theoryKarma theory •PrarabhdaPrarabhda – Fruits of action of the past enjoying / sufferingFruits of action of the past enjoying / suffering • SanchitaSanchita – Fruits of action which is in storeFruits of action which is in store • AgamiAgami – Present action bearing fruits laterPresent action bearing fruits later Birth Death Rebirth Realised person is untouched by Prarabhda, Sanchita, Agami…
- 78. Stages of ActionStagesof Action • Kamya-KarmaKamya-Karma – Desire based actionDesire based action • Sat-KarmaSat-Karma – Action for the well being of mankindAction for the well being of mankind • Nish-kamyakarmaNish-kamyakarma – Action to forget oneself and the world outsideAction to forget oneself and the world outside – No motive, no desire, not bound by fruits ofNo motive, no desire, not bound by fruits of actionaction • Na-KarmaNa-Karma – Non identification with actionNon identification with action – Untouched by action and its outcomeUntouched by action and its outcome
- 79. YogaYoga • JnanaJnana – Seeingone self in othersSeeing one self in others • Open for ideasOpen for ideas • BhaktiBhakti – Not me nothing mineNot me nothing mine – Seeing divinity in anything & everythingSeeing divinity in anything & everything • Respect for others action & ideasRespect for others action & ideas • KarmaKarma – There is nothing to loose nor to gainThere is nothing to loose nor to gain – Devote all action and its fruit to the lordDevote all action and its fruit to the lord – To forget oneself and the world outsideTo forget oneself and the world outside
- 80. Mind Sattva Knowledge, Good, Wellbeing of all, Peace… Adharma /dharma , vice/virtue… Rajas Action, Motive, I/ Mine, Gain, Rich/ poor, loss/ gain Tamas Lazy, Dull, Stupor, ill will of others… Beautiful/ ugly, hot/ cold, gossip Sattva Tamas RajasSattva
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- 82. No - MindNo- Mind • Pause between ThoughtsPause between Thoughts • Pause between actionPause between action • SleepSleep – SilenceSilence Non Identification StateNon Identification State (restore energy) “Fill” ( Ocean of energy, knowledge… )
- 83. Non - DoingNon- Doing • No motivesNo motives • No desiresNo desires • Nothing to gain / looseNothing to gain / loose • Well being of othersWell being of others • No doershipNo doership – Yet ActingYet Acting • Not bound by fruits of actionNot bound by fruits of action • Not reactingNot reacting • Non identification with actionNon identification with action – Sun, Moon, Earth, Water, Air, FireSun, Moon, Earth, Water, Air, Fire
- 84. Mind – NoMind – (think better) Action – No action – (efficiency ) Yoga Established in the Goal
- 85. Sa lokhya Turninginward Sa mipya Getting Closer Sa Roopya Getting Idea Sa Yugya Becoming one with it Yoga
- 86. God / SelfGod/ Self - Realisation- Realisation
- 87. GodGod • ArthaArtha – distressdistress •ArtharthiArtharthi – wealthwealth • JignasuJignasu – curiouscurious • JnaniJnani – Knowledge for knowledge sakeKnowledge for knowledge sake
- 88. God Idea -not GodGod Idea - not God Unlimited, Absolute, Eternal Disease less, Decay less, Death less Bliss, Peaceful Imbibe God idea only to become one with it
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- 90. Idol not theIdealIdol not the Ideal Idol step to the Ideal Prema Relative Para Absolute
- 91. Faith - BlindBelief Continued - Belief Devotion - Unswerving Belief Establish Curious Interest Sincerity ( importance) Perseverance (value)
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- 94. OfferingOffering Ego Limited Intellect Dual, Logic &Reasoning Mind Restlessness, Confusion, Agitation
- 95. Pure Consciousness theEternal Self Black Board Ego Intellect Mind Emotion Physical Thinker Doer Enjoyer / Sufferer
- 96. Swadharma (Sat, Chit( Ananda)) E Dharma M I Paradharma Adharma
- 97. Dharma needs noprotectionDharma needs no protection Secret not SacredSecret not Sacred
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- 100. Experiencing and beyond…Experiencingand beyond… Precondition & Bias –Precondition & Bias – SelfishSelfish -- AgitationAgitation -- UnconditionedUnconditioned Selfless actionSelfless action PeacePeace
- 101. Guru “GU” –darkness to“RU” – Light Reveling in eternal Self Age, Caste, Sex, Background… Immaterial YAMA Wisdom in the person makes the person a Guru
- 102. Seeker Quest to RealiseTruth Not interested in worldly things and affairs Does not hate / but respects
- 103. Bramhacharya •Just abstaining fromsex is not bramhacharya •Abstaining (not leaving / but not dwelling) thoughts – Money, power, Knowledge, Position, sex… •Listening, Thinking, Establish…
- 104. Sanyasa •Renouncing not justat Physical plane but at mental plane •Sacrifice ones own interest for the well being of mankind •Wearing saffron robe, growing beard, having a big following – not the signs
- 105. Realisation Realise Absolute self Realisingthat there is nothing new to realise Realising peace / bliss is ones owns nature Realise there is nothing to win or lose Only on Realisation fear, anxiety, worry… ceases to be Only on Realisation death will not bother any more… Jnani Bhakta Karma yoga
- 106. Peace will beestablished within, naturally, without any external aids, and is sustained under all circumstances and at all times Where there is selflessness - detachment, accept and adapt, forgive and forget, compassion, patience, and tolerance, perseverance, contentment, unbiased fearlessness, love, sacrifice, service, becomes ones own very nature; one need not cultivate these things
- 107. …Only then, canyou stop dwelling in the past and future. Then and only then all the struggle, miseries, anxiety, fear and all doubts cease to be. Liberation / Moksha
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