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CONSIDERING MEDICINE?
A doctor is:
Medical Practitioner in Australia
1. Awarded a primary degree in medicine and
surgery after an approved program of study
from an Aust or NZ medical school accredited
by the Aust Med Council.
2. Proof of ID
3. Criminal history check satisfactory
4. Comply with professional indemnity insurance
5. Evidence of English lang skills standard
A doctor is:
Generally registered Medical Practitioner in
Australia
1. Medical Practitioner as above +
2. Completion of an Internship
Medicine, Surgery, Emergency
Total 47 weeks within 3 years
Then there are some great jobs waiting:
Most specialise
Prescribed specialties...
 Addiction Medicine
 Anesthesia
 Dermatology
 Emergency Medicine
 General Practice
 Intensive care medicine: Pediatric
 Medical administration
 Obstetrics and Gynecology: Oncology, Maternal-fetal, Ultrasounds, Reproductive
endocrinology and infertility, Urogynaecology
 Occupational and Environmental medicine
 Ophthalmology
 Pediatrics and child health: Clinical genetics, Community child heath, General,
Neonatal and perinatal, Cardiology, Clinical pharmacology, Emergency, Intensive
care
 Pain Medicine
 Palliative medicine
 Pathology: General, Anatomical, Chemical, Haematology, Immunology,
Microbiology, Forensic
 Physician: Cardiology, Clinical Genetics, Clinical Pharmacology, Endocrinology,
Gastroenterology, General Medicine, Geriatric, Hematology, Immunology, Infectious
diseases, Oncology, Nephrology, Neurology, Nuclear Medicine, Respiratory and
Sleep, Rheumatology
 Psychiatry
 Public health medicine
 Radiation oncology
 Radiology: Diagnostic radiology, Diagnostic ultrasound, Nuclear medicine
 Rehabilitation medicine
 Sexual health medicine
 Sport and exercise medicine
 Surgery: Cardio-thoracic, General, Neurosurgery, Orthopedic, Otolaryngology,
Pediatric, Plastic, Urology, Vascular
 Salary
 Resident AU$60000 - $75000 (up to $90000
with overtime).
 Registrar AU$75000 - $110000 (up to
$130000 with overtime).
 GP AU$150000 – $350000 (up to $400000
with overtime).
 Consultant AU$175000 – $350000 (up to
$400000 with overtime, allowances etc.
 Private consultants Can be more.
Disadvantages
 Debt (about $11,000/year HECS)
 Long and ongoing education
 Can be difficult (training and on the job)
 Can be depressing and stressful (when unable
to help)
 Time consuming
 Long work hours (overtime and on-call)
 A lot of responsibility
 Frustrating with patient non-compliance
 Remember.. You are choosing to become a
doctor, not just a medical student
 Do you love learning?
 Do you enjoy solving challenging problems?
 Are you emotionally resilient?
 Are you interested in helping people?
Poor reasons for choosing
medicine
 Pressure from family/friends/society
 Friend/sibling is studying medicine
 Parents are doctors
 Because you can
 “I got an OP1 and therefore have to do medicine
or law”
 Money and prestige
Medicine entry pathways
1. Undergraduate: Apply for direct entry as a
school leaver – NO UMAT at Griffith
OR
2. Graduate: Study any undergraduate degree and
then sit the GAMSAT
The Griffith MD
 Problem-based learning
 Small group practical and clinical skills sessions
 Many clinical placements
 Seminars and Online support
 Research (an MD/PhD option available)
 Four themes:
 The Doctor and Patient
 Knowledge of health and illness
 The Doctor and Health in the community
 The Doctor and law, ethics and professional practice
Medical degree format
 4 Year Doctorate of Medicine
 First 2 years at Parklands adjacent GCUH
Medical degree format
 4 Year Doctorate of Medicine
 First 2 years at Parklands
 Years 3&4 very clinical
 At different clinical schools
 Year 3: Med, Surg, Aged Care, Cancer care, Child
health Women’s health
 Year 4: Emergency Med, General Practice,
Critical care +
Selective and Elective
Prof. Scott Kitchener
Clinical and Academic Lead, Rural Medicine
Clinical Sub-Dean, Rural Health
Clifton
Year 3
Medicine
Stream
Medicine Aged/Cancer Care Mental Health Break
(Stream 1) 7 weeks 7 weeks 7 weeks 1 week
Surgery
Stream
Surgery Women’s Health Children’s Health SWOT VAC Written
(Stream 2) 7 weeks 7 weeks 7 weeks 1 week Exam
Semester 1
Written
Exam
Break
1 week
Semester 2
Written
Exam
Year 3
Medicine Surgery
Aged/Cancer Care Women’s Health
Mental Health Children’s Health
Griffith graduate MD program Year
3
Longlook
Longlook
Year 4 1 2 3 4 5
Term General
Practice
Elective Emergency
Medicine
Critical
care/Ortho
Selective Exams
Year 4 1 2 3 4 5
Rural Elective
– all
Longlook
students
General Practice
Emergency Medicine
Critical care/Ortho (including at St. Andrews)
Advanced Rural Selective
Exams
Griffith graduate MD program
Year 4
Entry requirements from
school
 OP or ATAR –
 Rural Priority Access Scheme (RPAS)
 English 4SA
 Assumed knowledge of Maths B and a science
(biology, chemistry or physics) but not pre-req.
 Apply through QTAC
NB. Rural students can apply for entry via
RPAS or the regular pathway or both
Entry requirements from
school
>>>Entry to B Med Sci (Nathan or Gold Coast)
with provisional entry to MD following
Anatomy, chemistry, biochemistry, health, genes
and disease, law and ethics, microbiology, physiology,
molecular genetics and psychology
Immunology, infectious disease, pharmacology,
metabolism, biochemistry, and epidemiology
In 6 semesters over 2 years
Entry requirements
postgrad
 Any Bachelor degree from any University
 GPA 5+
 GAMSAT – apply through GEMSAS
(Graduate Entry Medical School Admissions
System)
NB. Rural students can apply for entry via
RPAS or the regular pathway or both
 GUMSAA – Griffith University multi-station
admissions assessment
Rural Priority Access
Scheme
 25% of all places reserved for rural applicants
~ 9 of 36 places at Nathan for BMedSci
~ 9 of 36 places at Parklands for BMedSci
~ 28 of 111 places through GEMSAS path
What is rural?
ASGC-RA 2-5
ASGC-RA on Doctor Connect
ASGC RA 1-2 in detail:
ASGC-RA 1-2 in more detail
Summary
 School entry
 No UMAT
 English
 Rural Priority Access – so reserved rural places
 Graduate entry
 Do what ever degree you like (including at USQ)
 Sit GAMSAT and apply through GEMSAS
 GUMSAA interviews
 Study at Gold Coast, Brisbane, Sunshine
Coast or back on the Downs.

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Considering Medicine

  • 2. A doctor is: Medical Practitioner in Australia 1. Awarded a primary degree in medicine and surgery after an approved program of study from an Aust or NZ medical school accredited by the Aust Med Council. 2. Proof of ID 3. Criminal history check satisfactory 4. Comply with professional indemnity insurance 5. Evidence of English lang skills standard
  • 3. A doctor is: Generally registered Medical Practitioner in Australia 1. Medical Practitioner as above + 2. Completion of an Internship Medicine, Surgery, Emergency Total 47 weeks within 3 years Then there are some great jobs waiting:
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  • 9. Prescribed specialties...  Addiction Medicine  Anesthesia  Dermatology  Emergency Medicine  General Practice  Intensive care medicine: Pediatric  Medical administration  Obstetrics and Gynecology: Oncology, Maternal-fetal, Ultrasounds, Reproductive endocrinology and infertility, Urogynaecology  Occupational and Environmental medicine  Ophthalmology  Pediatrics and child health: Clinical genetics, Community child heath, General, Neonatal and perinatal, Cardiology, Clinical pharmacology, Emergency, Intensive care  Pain Medicine
  • 10.  Palliative medicine  Pathology: General, Anatomical, Chemical, Haematology, Immunology, Microbiology, Forensic  Physician: Cardiology, Clinical Genetics, Clinical Pharmacology, Endocrinology, Gastroenterology, General Medicine, Geriatric, Hematology, Immunology, Infectious diseases, Oncology, Nephrology, Neurology, Nuclear Medicine, Respiratory and Sleep, Rheumatology  Psychiatry  Public health medicine  Radiation oncology  Radiology: Diagnostic radiology, Diagnostic ultrasound, Nuclear medicine  Rehabilitation medicine  Sexual health medicine  Sport and exercise medicine  Surgery: Cardio-thoracic, General, Neurosurgery, Orthopedic, Otolaryngology, Pediatric, Plastic, Urology, Vascular
  • 11.  Salary  Resident AU$60000 - $75000 (up to $90000 with overtime).  Registrar AU$75000 - $110000 (up to $130000 with overtime).  GP AU$150000 – $350000 (up to $400000 with overtime).  Consultant AU$175000 – $350000 (up to $400000 with overtime, allowances etc.  Private consultants Can be more.
  • 12. Disadvantages  Debt (about $11,000/year HECS)  Long and ongoing education  Can be difficult (training and on the job)  Can be depressing and stressful (when unable to help)  Time consuming  Long work hours (overtime and on-call)  A lot of responsibility  Frustrating with patient non-compliance
  • 13.  Remember.. You are choosing to become a doctor, not just a medical student  Do you love learning?  Do you enjoy solving challenging problems?  Are you emotionally resilient?  Are you interested in helping people?
  • 14. Poor reasons for choosing medicine  Pressure from family/friends/society  Friend/sibling is studying medicine  Parents are doctors  Because you can  “I got an OP1 and therefore have to do medicine or law”  Money and prestige
  • 15. Medicine entry pathways 1. Undergraduate: Apply for direct entry as a school leaver – NO UMAT at Griffith OR 2. Graduate: Study any undergraduate degree and then sit the GAMSAT
  • 16. The Griffith MD  Problem-based learning  Small group practical and clinical skills sessions  Many clinical placements  Seminars and Online support  Research (an MD/PhD option available)  Four themes:  The Doctor and Patient  Knowledge of health and illness  The Doctor and Health in the community  The Doctor and law, ethics and professional practice
  • 17. Medical degree format  4 Year Doctorate of Medicine  First 2 years at Parklands adjacent GCUH
  • 18. Medical degree format  4 Year Doctorate of Medicine  First 2 years at Parklands  Years 3&4 very clinical  At different clinical schools  Year 3: Med, Surg, Aged Care, Cancer care, Child health Women’s health  Year 4: Emergency Med, General Practice, Critical care + Selective and Elective
  • 19. Prof. Scott Kitchener Clinical and Academic Lead, Rural Medicine Clinical Sub-Dean, Rural Health Clifton
  • 20. Year 3 Medicine Stream Medicine Aged/Cancer Care Mental Health Break (Stream 1) 7 weeks 7 weeks 7 weeks 1 week Surgery Stream Surgery Women’s Health Children’s Health SWOT VAC Written (Stream 2) 7 weeks 7 weeks 7 weeks 1 week Exam Semester 1 Written Exam Break 1 week Semester 2 Written Exam Year 3 Medicine Surgery Aged/Cancer Care Women’s Health Mental Health Children’s Health Griffith graduate MD program Year 3 Longlook
  • 21. Longlook Year 4 1 2 3 4 5 Term General Practice Elective Emergency Medicine Critical care/Ortho Selective Exams Year 4 1 2 3 4 5 Rural Elective – all Longlook students General Practice Emergency Medicine Critical care/Ortho (including at St. Andrews) Advanced Rural Selective Exams Griffith graduate MD program Year 4
  • 22. Entry requirements from school  OP or ATAR –  Rural Priority Access Scheme (RPAS)  English 4SA  Assumed knowledge of Maths B and a science (biology, chemistry or physics) but not pre-req.  Apply through QTAC NB. Rural students can apply for entry via RPAS or the regular pathway or both
  • 23. Entry requirements from school >>>Entry to B Med Sci (Nathan or Gold Coast) with provisional entry to MD following Anatomy, chemistry, biochemistry, health, genes and disease, law and ethics, microbiology, physiology, molecular genetics and psychology Immunology, infectious disease, pharmacology, metabolism, biochemistry, and epidemiology In 6 semesters over 2 years
  • 24. Entry requirements postgrad  Any Bachelor degree from any University  GPA 5+  GAMSAT – apply through GEMSAS (Graduate Entry Medical School Admissions System) NB. Rural students can apply for entry via RPAS or the regular pathway or both  GUMSAA – Griffith University multi-station admissions assessment
  • 25. Rural Priority Access Scheme  25% of all places reserved for rural applicants ~ 9 of 36 places at Nathan for BMedSci ~ 9 of 36 places at Parklands for BMedSci ~ 28 of 111 places through GEMSAS path What is rural? ASGC-RA 2-5
  • 26. ASGC-RA on Doctor Connect
  • 27. ASGC RA 1-2 in detail:
  • 28. ASGC-RA 1-2 in more detail
  • 29. Summary  School entry  No UMAT  English  Rural Priority Access – so reserved rural places  Graduate entry  Do what ever degree you like (including at USQ)  Sit GAMSAT and apply through GEMSAS  GUMSAA interviews  Study at Gold Coast, Brisbane, Sunshine Coast or back on the Downs.

Editor's Notes

  1. http://www.msf-crash.org/en/sur-le-vif/2012/11/07/7204/msf-and-economy-generated-environmental-disasters/ http://www.msf.org.au/media-room/press-releases/press-release/article/medecins-sans-frontieres-urges-immediate-action-on-ebola-vaccines-and-treatments-for-frontline-wor.html
  2. http://www.washington.edu/news/2012/09/13/after-months-on-portable-artificial-heart-alaska-man-receives-transplant/ - Clare Mclean http://southerngptraining.com.au/training-experiences/special-interest-training-posts/small-town-rural-practice/
  3. CHANGE TO AUST ARMY PHOTO , POSSIBLY UPDATE TO EBOLA IMAGE http://www.army.gov.au/Our-work/News-and-media/News-and-media-2013/News-and-media-July-2013/Medic-training-nationally-recognised
  4. Unrestricted Medicare number allows you to treat private patients The different registrations are with the Medical Board of Australia and are required for practice of medicine The next few slides have information of the registrar years and the required commitment. You will need to link the Specialty college administered training (vocational) to the actual colleges and the available specialties
  5. Link these Specialties to the colleges listed on the previous slide Students have the option to further specialise in “fields of specialty practice” listed below the specialty however this is not always required. E.g. you can simply be a paediatrician and not be required to choose a field such as emergency. All information taken from http://www.medicalboard.gov.au/Registration/Types/Specialist-Registration/Medical-Specialties-and-Specialty-Fields.aspx
  6. Please note: There is significant opportunity for research as part of medical training. Many training pathways require research publications in order to be accredited and encourage maintained research outcomes.
  7. Many students forget that they are signing up for being a doctor and instead focus on the prestige of getting in to study medicine. Do you love learning? (medicine is a lifelong science- continued learning) Do you enjoy solving challenging problems? (main role of diagnosing and figuring how to treat) Emotionally resilient? (able to cope with death and support families) Are you interested in how the human body functions? (as a doctor you will need to know in detail how the body functions and how to fix it)
  8. Undergraduate degrees can usually be anything (law to pharmacy), but will need to prepare you for the GAMSAT. People often choose to study: Nursing, Science (biomedical science) , Allied health (physio, dietician, OT, etc)
  9. https://www148.griffith.edu.au/programs-courses/Program/5099/Overview
  10. https://ama.com.au/medical-students
  11. https://ama.com.au/medical-students
  12. Longlook placements 3rd year 21 4th year 9 Rural GP placements Rural specialist
  13. I mentioned that the program is essentially turning the curriculum on it’s side. Again this is not a new concept. Here I am referring to the Griffith curriculum. The students still complete their 3rd year in semesters and in 2011 will be examined at the end of each semester. During the semester though they will be working and learning in a rural hospital broadly in the functional areas of the hospital that meet the requirements of the semester. A student beginning their year in the medical ward of the hospital will also conduct rounds and primary care clinics in aged care facilities, see cancer care patients managed at the hospital, follow some of these patients on their diagnostic and management travels to major centres and join the mental health teams in their rural towns again following some of the acutely ill psychiatric cases on their referral to major centres and back to the rural hospital. During the second semester they will then progress through a similar process in surgical, women’s and children’s health, some of which they will have experienced in the first semester.
  14. So what does the program look like? Rural placements are able to provide the experience necessary to complete the curriculum, but not in a way that readily fits into the artificial terms of rotations. Patients just don’t come into rural hospitals and practices having selected their condition to suit the term of the students therein. The arrangement of the final year Longlook program is to send all students off to seek an elective in the first term. They should explore areas of medicine of interest to them or those areas in which they feel they need more experience. The Rural Stream which conducts the Longlook program can arrange for rural placements or some overseas rural placements. On return from Electives, all students will orient to the Longlook program and to rural practice before starting on their longitudinal placement for the rest of the year. Selectives are also done longitudinally. So if you were to choose obstetrics as a Selective, each week an antenatal clinic would be attended and a gynae a Caesar list and if one your ladies goes into labour then you would be called to deliver. Similarly, anaesthetics selective would entail a pre-op clinic a week and regular anaesthetic list. Longlook arranges for regular tutorials locally and in hub days, both of which include exam prep workshops before the midyear and final year exams.
  15. https://degrees.griffith.edu.au/Program/1280/Courses/Domestic#course-list
  16. https://degrees.griffith.edu.au/Program/1280/Courses/Domestic#course-list
  17. https://www.griffith.edu.au/health/school-medicine/medicine GEMSAS: http://www.gemsas.edu.au
  18. https://www.griffith.edu.au/health/medicine/why-study-at-griffith/rural-priority-access-scheme For ASGC-RA, see Doctor Connect site: http://www.doctorconnect.gov.au/internet/otd/publishing.nsf/content/ra-intro