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Simon Harvey | @pingudownunder | linkedin.com/in/simonharvey
APAC 2019
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TheLawyersMadeMeSayThis
I’m really scared of having to fill out the forms
Who am I?
• Architect Answer: ”it depends”
• I’m a “normal” InfoSec Consultant/Architect.
• Completed some Mental Health First Aid Training
(MHFA Australia).
• I’m not a medical or mental health professional.
• Advice and examples, if any, are general in
nature and intended as such.
• If you are affected by this topic, please seek
advice.
• Your Doctor
• Contacts on the final slide
3
Should I be talking about this?
SOURCE: TWITTER
CorporateAffairsMadeMeSayThis
plus, I’m really scared of having to fill the HR forms
• All views are my own, based upon personal
observations and experience.
• I am not representing anyone else, including,
but not limited to:
• my employer, past, present or future
• any organisation I volunteer for
• anyone mentioned in this talk
• my cat
• anyone else.
• The buck stops with me.
4
WhatisaMentalHealthIssue?
How’s that different to a Mental Health Illness?
Mental Health Issue
• A decline of “Good” Mental Health
• Symptoms of mental health becoming poorer
• Some symptoms of Mental Illness
5
Mental Illness
• A diagnosable medical condition by a qualified
medical professional that causes disability
• Affects a person’s thinking, emotional state and
behaviour
“Disrupts the persons ability to work, carry out daily activities and engage in satisfying
personal relationships”
– World Health Organisation
SOURCES: ABS.NATIONAL SURVEY OF MENTAL HEALTH & WELLBEING 2007; AUSTRALIAN INSTITUTE OF HEALTH AND WELFARE STUDY,
2011; MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID AUSTRALIA TRAINING / MANUAL 4TH ED.
WhatisaMentalHealthIssue?
Illustrative Examples
Poor Mental Health
6
Mental Illness
SOURCE: MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID AUSTRALIA TRAINING / MANUAL 4TH ED.
Well
Becoming
Unwell
Unwell
Illness
/ Crisis
😱😕
• Depression
• Suicidal thoughts
• Anxiety
• Psychosis
• Substance use
• Alcohol
• Drugs
• Prescription Medications
• Gambling problems
• Eating disorders
• Severe Depression
• Self-injury
• Suicidal thoughts & behaviours
• Severe panic attacks
• Post-traumatic events
• Aggressive behaviours
• Severe psychotic states
• Severe effects from alcohol use
• Severe effects from drug use
• Psychological addiction
Frequency, Duration & Severity
IsthisjustanissueinInformationSecurity?
No. #straya
• 3rd biggest cause if “disease burden” in
Australia
• “cause of Premature Death of
Disability”
• second only to Cardiovascular
Disease/Cancer
• Biggest cause of Disability … by far
• Top 3 Affected Industries:
• 1) Professional Services
• 2) Hospitality
• 3) Everyone below 25 years old.
SOURCES: ABS.NATIONAL SURVEY OF MENTAL HEALTH & WELLBEING 2007;
AUSTRALIAN INSTITUTE OF HEALTH AND WELFARE STUDY, 2011
7
Males Females
Anxiety Disorders 10.8% 17.9%
Depressive/Bipolar
Disorders
5.3% 7.1%
Substance Use
Disorders
7% 3.3%
Common Mental
Illnesses
17.6% 22.3%
Why?
Example Driving Forces
Add a footer 8
• Personality Types
• Nature of the work we we do?
• Red vs. Blue?
• Focus on “negative" Risk Management
• Consulting & Management & Operations
• Our little silo …
• Cyber Cyber Cyber Cyber Cyber Cyber
• Regulatory and Environmental Changes?
• Organisational or Industry Culture?
• “Why can’t you just …”
• “Why don’t they listen?”
• Supplier/Client Risk and Accountability?
• “Wrong Cover on your TPS Report!!!”
• 24 x 7 x 365 … are we exhausted?
Thesameappliestoourcustomers...
Social Engineers already know this … and we cause it …
SOURCE: ERIC PINKERTON, “SATELLITES OF LOVE”, CRIKEYCON 2017 9
• People, process and technology
• Pinkerton’s paradox
• PAE
• PAL
• PFU
• Demoralised? Unfocused?
• mind on “other things”?
• Corporate/organisational culture
• Workplace support
• “I know better than you”
Whyisn’ttheGovernmentdoinganything?
Actually, they are. (A little bit of Contextual change?)
Add a footer 10
Hangon…
Could there be an architectural approach to looking at this? (a.k.a. can we apply SABSA with related approaches and
methods to this problem)?
SOURCE: sabsa.org, nist.gov/cyberframework 11
Whatelse?
actually, the community is stepping up at the Component level …
Add a footer 12
Internationally Locally
• Stigma is starting to be break down –
acknowledging the problem.
• @InfoSanity.org
• https://www.omsihelp.org
• Formal Training e.g. Mental Health First Aid
• MHFA Mental Health First Aid Guidelines Booklet
(Amazon Kindle) & https://www.mhfa.com.au
• AISA Brisbane & National
• AusCERT / CrikeyCon / BSides
• AWSN
• WYWM
• Men’s Shed
• Industry and Community Mentoring
• NGOs increasing focus on Tech Industry
WhatcanyouandIdo?
Don’t be afraid to ask.
• Keep an eye out for each other
• Peers, managers, reports, clients, service providers, colleagues, friends,, everyone.
• Look for changes in people’s behaviour.
• Confidentiality and Trust – don’t force the issue
• It’s not about you/me, its about the sufferer …
• If you are suffering… don’t be afraid to ask
• Your GP is your best friend here ..
Sources: ruok.org.au, mhfa.org.au 13
Add a footer 14
QuestionsandDiscussion
I’m really scared of having to fill out the forms
• LifeLine
• 13 11 14
• lifeline.org.au
•BeyondBlue
•1300 22 46 32
•beyondblue.org.au
•HeadSpace (12-25yo)
•1800 650 890
•headspace.org.au

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SABSA COSAC APAC 2019 - Mental Health and the Information Security Community: We Need To Talk

  • 1. MentalHealthandtheInformationSecurityCommunity: WeNeedToTalk Simon Harvey | @pingudownunder | linkedin.com/in/simonharvey APAC 2019
  • 2. TLP:GREEN CHATHAM HOUSE RULES FOR ANYTHING SAID OR SHARED BY THE AUDIENCE 2
  • 3. TheLawyersMadeMeSayThis I’m really scared of having to fill out the forms Who am I? • Architect Answer: ”it depends” • I’m a “normal” InfoSec Consultant/Architect. • Completed some Mental Health First Aid Training (MHFA Australia). • I’m not a medical or mental health professional. • Advice and examples, if any, are general in nature and intended as such. • If you are affected by this topic, please seek advice. • Your Doctor • Contacts on the final slide 3 Should I be talking about this? SOURCE: TWITTER
  • 4. CorporateAffairsMadeMeSayThis plus, I’m really scared of having to fill the HR forms • All views are my own, based upon personal observations and experience. • I am not representing anyone else, including, but not limited to: • my employer, past, present or future • any organisation I volunteer for • anyone mentioned in this talk • my cat • anyone else. • The buck stops with me. 4
  • 5. WhatisaMentalHealthIssue? How’s that different to a Mental Health Illness? Mental Health Issue • A decline of “Good” Mental Health • Symptoms of mental health becoming poorer • Some symptoms of Mental Illness 5 Mental Illness • A diagnosable medical condition by a qualified medical professional that causes disability • Affects a person’s thinking, emotional state and behaviour “Disrupts the persons ability to work, carry out daily activities and engage in satisfying personal relationships” – World Health Organisation SOURCES: ABS.NATIONAL SURVEY OF MENTAL HEALTH & WELLBEING 2007; AUSTRALIAN INSTITUTE OF HEALTH AND WELFARE STUDY, 2011; MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID AUSTRALIA TRAINING / MANUAL 4TH ED.
  • 6. WhatisaMentalHealthIssue? Illustrative Examples Poor Mental Health 6 Mental Illness SOURCE: MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID AUSTRALIA TRAINING / MANUAL 4TH ED. Well Becoming Unwell Unwell Illness / Crisis 😱😕 • Depression • Suicidal thoughts • Anxiety • Psychosis • Substance use • Alcohol • Drugs • Prescription Medications • Gambling problems • Eating disorders • Severe Depression • Self-injury • Suicidal thoughts & behaviours • Severe panic attacks • Post-traumatic events • Aggressive behaviours • Severe psychotic states • Severe effects from alcohol use • Severe effects from drug use • Psychological addiction Frequency, Duration & Severity
  • 7. IsthisjustanissueinInformationSecurity? No. #straya • 3rd biggest cause if “disease burden” in Australia • “cause of Premature Death of Disability” • second only to Cardiovascular Disease/Cancer • Biggest cause of Disability … by far • Top 3 Affected Industries: • 1) Professional Services • 2) Hospitality • 3) Everyone below 25 years old. SOURCES: ABS.NATIONAL SURVEY OF MENTAL HEALTH & WELLBEING 2007; AUSTRALIAN INSTITUTE OF HEALTH AND WELFARE STUDY, 2011 7 Males Females Anxiety Disorders 10.8% 17.9% Depressive/Bipolar Disorders 5.3% 7.1% Substance Use Disorders 7% 3.3% Common Mental Illnesses 17.6% 22.3%
  • 8. Why? Example Driving Forces Add a footer 8 • Personality Types • Nature of the work we we do? • Red vs. Blue? • Focus on “negative" Risk Management • Consulting & Management & Operations • Our little silo … • Cyber Cyber Cyber Cyber Cyber Cyber • Regulatory and Environmental Changes? • Organisational or Industry Culture? • “Why can’t you just …” • “Why don’t they listen?” • Supplier/Client Risk and Accountability? • “Wrong Cover on your TPS Report!!!” • 24 x 7 x 365 … are we exhausted?
  • 9. Thesameappliestoourcustomers... Social Engineers already know this … and we cause it … SOURCE: ERIC PINKERTON, “SATELLITES OF LOVE”, CRIKEYCON 2017 9 • People, process and technology • Pinkerton’s paradox • PAE • PAL • PFU • Demoralised? Unfocused? • mind on “other things”? • Corporate/organisational culture • Workplace support • “I know better than you”
  • 10. Whyisn’ttheGovernmentdoinganything? Actually, they are. (A little bit of Contextual change?) Add a footer 10
  • 11. Hangon… Could there be an architectural approach to looking at this? (a.k.a. can we apply SABSA with related approaches and methods to this problem)? SOURCE: sabsa.org, nist.gov/cyberframework 11
  • 12. Whatelse? actually, the community is stepping up at the Component level … Add a footer 12 Internationally Locally • Stigma is starting to be break down – acknowledging the problem. • @InfoSanity.org • https://www.omsihelp.org • Formal Training e.g. Mental Health First Aid • MHFA Mental Health First Aid Guidelines Booklet (Amazon Kindle) & https://www.mhfa.com.au • AISA Brisbane & National • AusCERT / CrikeyCon / BSides • AWSN • WYWM • Men’s Shed • Industry and Community Mentoring • NGOs increasing focus on Tech Industry
  • 13. WhatcanyouandIdo? Don’t be afraid to ask. • Keep an eye out for each other • Peers, managers, reports, clients, service providers, colleagues, friends,, everyone. • Look for changes in people’s behaviour. • Confidentiality and Trust – don’t force the issue • It’s not about you/me, its about the sufferer … • If you are suffering… don’t be afraid to ask • Your GP is your best friend here .. Sources: ruok.org.au, mhfa.org.au 13
  • 14. Add a footer 14 QuestionsandDiscussion I’m really scared of having to fill out the forms • LifeLine • 13 11 14 • lifeline.org.au •BeyondBlue •1300 22 46 32 •beyondblue.org.au •HeadSpace (12-25yo) •1800 650 890 •headspace.org.au