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29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG
THE POLLUTER PAYS PRINCIPLE PP
& THE EXTENDED PRODUCER RESPONSIBILITY EPR
Veolia Water Experience Fr - Mars 2022
Regulatory Affairs & Public Affairs Department
Ismahane Remonnay ismahane.remonnay@veolia.com
David Colon david.colon@veolia.com
Maelle Goapper maelle.goapper@veolia.com
29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG 2
01 State of Play - Ambitions, Challenges and Background
1.
What is considered as
pollution ?
Which costs should be paid by
polluters ?
Who are the polluters and who
should pay ?
Sociological challenges of Fairness,
Producer vs Beneficiaries
Economics challenges,
disproportionate cost
Politicals challenges,
a type of governance beyond
administrative boundaries
Technologicals challenges,
establish responsibilities of
pollutions and the price
a.
b.
c.
d.
3.
2.
Nobody want
to pay
29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG
01 French Water Operators Insights
Not to burden the increasing costs of treatment on the water price or the public budget
Increasing Challenges - Water operator the ultimate barrier
88% 8% 4%
breakdown Urban/Rural
EAU & BIODIVERSITY & CLIMATE …
Insufficient Funds
Water Local economic model
(population density/m3 of water)
distorsion
Polluter Pays Principle
Water Agency
30% 70%
Metrics? m3
vs pollution m3
?
29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG
01 French Water Operators Insights
Not to burden the increasing costs of treatment on the water price or the public budget
Increasing Challenges - Water operator the ultimate barrier
FREE Water Value?
cycle
Insufficient Funds
Historical Pollution / New Pollution
acceptable
Water = Common goods /
Essential
● water as common goods?
● access/use of water?
● water depollution? (sewer, treatment,
preservation…)
● water as health impact for people & environment?
Chemicals Iceberg -
The unknown
territory of
chemicals
29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG
01
November 2018 - June 2019
23 measures but not sufficient resources and
funding
French Water Sector Insights
State of Play - Ambitions, Challenges and Background
29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG
02 French Water Sector - The First answer
Water Strategic Economic Sector
31.01.2019
Stage 1 (2019 - Today)
● public & private - mapping/coordination
● data
● employment /training
● innovation - SMEs accelerator
●
Stage 2 (XXX - XXX?)
● net zero ambition
● innovation - R&I public & private
● innovation for finance
● …
29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG
* Option 1 - Balance
To reaffirm the principles
Fiscality System
Polluter Pays Principle PPP
Taxes
Extended Producer Responsibility
Environmental Principles &
Vocabulary
Precaution
PPP
Participation
Prevention
Megatrends
Demography
Population density
Cocktail of old and new pollution
Ecological transition
GLOBAL
APPROACH
* Option 2 - International Fund
for water
to make the existing concrete
* Option 3 - Blank page
to address the megatrends &
reality
03 French Water Sector
Potential Options
29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG
If the results are not forthcoming,
what happens to the polluters and the authorities ?
Taxes, PPP, ERP, … = Punishment, Brand, Correction
OR
Global approach/ Fund = Prevention, Action,
Responsibility
Human Rights? Trading goods? Free?

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Presentation - Workshop 2: The implementation of the Polluter Pays Principle, Ismahane Remonnay

  • 1. 29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG THE POLLUTER PAYS PRINCIPLE PP & THE EXTENDED PRODUCER RESPONSIBILITY EPR Veolia Water Experience Fr - Mars 2022 Regulatory Affairs & Public Affairs Department Ismahane Remonnay ismahane.remonnay@veolia.com David Colon david.colon@veolia.com Maelle Goapper maelle.goapper@veolia.com
  • 2. 29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG 2 01 State of Play - Ambitions, Challenges and Background 1. What is considered as pollution ? Which costs should be paid by polluters ? Who are the polluters and who should pay ? Sociological challenges of Fairness, Producer vs Beneficiaries Economics challenges, disproportionate cost Politicals challenges, a type of governance beyond administrative boundaries Technologicals challenges, establish responsibilities of pollutions and the price a. b. c. d. 3. 2. Nobody want to pay
  • 3. 29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG 01 French Water Operators Insights Not to burden the increasing costs of treatment on the water price or the public budget Increasing Challenges - Water operator the ultimate barrier 88% 8% 4% breakdown Urban/Rural EAU & BIODIVERSITY & CLIMATE … Insufficient Funds Water Local economic model (population density/m3 of water) distorsion Polluter Pays Principle Water Agency 30% 70% Metrics? m3 vs pollution m3 ?
  • 4. 29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG 01 French Water Operators Insights Not to burden the increasing costs of treatment on the water price or the public budget Increasing Challenges - Water operator the ultimate barrier FREE Water Value? cycle Insufficient Funds Historical Pollution / New Pollution acceptable Water = Common goods / Essential ● water as common goods? ● access/use of water? ● water depollution? (sewer, treatment, preservation…) ● water as health impact for people & environment? Chemicals Iceberg - The unknown territory of chemicals
  • 5. 29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG 01 November 2018 - June 2019 23 measures but not sufficient resources and funding French Water Sector Insights State of Play - Ambitions, Challenges and Background
  • 6. 29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG 02 French Water Sector - The First answer Water Strategic Economic Sector 31.01.2019 Stage 1 (2019 - Today) ● public & private - mapping/coordination ● data ● employment /training ● innovation - SMEs accelerator ● Stage 2 (XXX - XXX?) ● net zero ambition ● innovation - R&I public & private ● innovation for finance ● …
  • 7. 29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG * Option 1 - Balance To reaffirm the principles Fiscality System Polluter Pays Principle PPP Taxes Extended Producer Responsibility Environmental Principles & Vocabulary Precaution PPP Participation Prevention Megatrends Demography Population density Cocktail of old and new pollution Ecological transition GLOBAL APPROACH * Option 2 - International Fund for water to make the existing concrete * Option 3 - Blank page to address the megatrends & reality 03 French Water Sector Potential Options
  • 8. 29 mars 2022 - OCDE workshop - IR - DC - MG If the results are not forthcoming, what happens to the polluters and the authorities ? Taxes, PPP, ERP, … = Punishment, Brand, Correction OR Global approach/ Fund = Prevention, Action, Responsibility Human Rights? Trading goods? Free?