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Why	
  Telema*cs?	
  
Webinar:	
  Insurance	
  Aggregators	
  In	
  Asia	
  
29th	
  September	
  2015	
   	
  
Webinar:	
  Insurance	
  Through	
  The	
  Eyes	
  of	
  the	
  Customer	
  	
  
	
  
Our	
  Panelists	
  
Discussion	
  agenda	
  
1	
   Presenta8ons:	
  
James	
  Harding:	
  	
  Improving	
  customer	
  self	
  service	
  in	
  insurance	
  
Dr	
  Onn	
  Keet	
  Peng:	
  Using	
  analy*cs	
  to	
  understand	
  the	
  customer	
  
Hugh	
  Terry:	
  The	
  mul*-­‐touch	
  customer	
  
	
  
2	
   Ques8ons	
  and	
  Answers	
  
3	
   Snap	
  Poll	
  –	
  share	
  your	
  view	
  
Ques8ons	
  &	
  Answers	
  
	
  
 How	
  to	
  par8cipate:	
  
	
  If	
  you	
  have	
  a	
  ques*on	
  please	
  type	
  into	
  the	
  messaging	
  area	
  
and	
  send	
  to	
  the	
  presenters	
  
 Session	
  format:	
  	
  
The	
  moderator	
  will	
  use	
  a	
  combina*on	
  of	
  his	
  own	
  ques*ons	
  
and	
  those	
  from	
  the	
  audience	
  
	
  
James	
  Harding	
  @	
  360Globalnet:	
  
Improving	
  customer	
  self-­‐service	
  in	
  insurance	
  
Designed with the customer in mind
n  Devised the proposition (2010-2012)
n  Top UK insurer, digitalisation model
n  Customer empowered to self-serve claim
n  New process = complete transparency for
customer + insurer + third parties
n  Imagery validates claim, provides ‘visual’
proof, all data stored in the cloud
n  Assisted claims, where necessary WYi5
n  Net promoter score 76 joint 1st in UK -
would rank No 6 in USA
n  Customers score 10/10 in more cases
than the rest of the scores combined
n  Cycle times significantly reduced and
claims settled in timescales to rival retail
online
n  Indemnity cost reductions of $600 (£400)
per claim over 360SelfServe/360Pronto
n  $3,600 on complex claims where live-
streaming takes place and reduction in
cycle times
n  Insurers can move to distributed working
with staff at home and “on demand”
working
n  WYi5/Pronto completes 40% of its’ jobs out
of hours including weekends (Sat/Sun)
n  100,000+ claims have been settled WYi5/
Pronto, 250,000 SelfServe
The Results are compelling
Dr	
  Onn	
  Keet	
  Peng	
  @	
  PT	
  Aegon	
  Marke8ng	
  Services	
  
Indonesia:	
  
Using	
  analy8cs	
  to	
  understand	
  the	
  customer	
  
Copyright	
  ©	
  2016	
  Aegon	
  Direct	
  &	
  Affinity	
  Marke*ng	
  Services	
  Limited.! STRICTLY	
  CONFIDENTIAL! 9	
  
Copyright	
  ©	
  2016	
  Aegon	
  Direct	
  &	
  Affinity	
  Marke*ng	
  Services	
  Limited.! STRICTLY	
  CONFIDENTIAL! 10	
  
Right	
  
Customer	
  
Right	
  	
  
Time	
  
Right	
  
Channel	
  
Right	
  	
  
Product	
  
DISTRIBUTION	
   PRICING	
  
UNDERWRITING	
  
Why need to understand customer?
Copyright	
  ©	
  2016	
  Aegon	
  Direct	
  &	
  Affinity	
  Marke*ng	
  Services	
  Limited.! STRICTLY	
  CONFIDENTIAL! 11	
  
How to understand customer?
Understanding customer needs based on the insight extracted from …
TRANSACTIONAL! INTERACTIONS!
DIGITAL	
  
FOOTPRINTS	
  
Copyright	
  ©	
  2016	
  Aegon	
  Direct	
  &	
  Affinity	
  Marke*ng	
  Services	
  Limited.! STRICTLY	
  CONFIDENTIAL! 12	
  
How to understand customer? Methodology
Copyright	
  ©	
  2016	
  Aegon	
  Direct	
  &	
  Affinity	
  Marke*ng	
  Services	
  Limited.! STRICTLY	
  CONFIDENTIAL! 13	
  
What: Understanding Customer
Insurance Needs! e.g. types and level of protection needed
Quality Requirement! e.g. preferred level of service standard
Channel Preference! e.g. email, IM, Telephone, face to face
Mood (Sentiment)! e.g. happy, neutral, sad…
Purchase Journey ! e.g. Awareness ⎝ Education ⎝ Consideration ⎝ Enrolment ⎝ Loyalty
Customer Life Stage! e.g. single, married, married with children, empty nest and retired
Customer interactions for insurance should based on the understanding of:
Copyright	
  ©	
  2016	
  Aegon	
  Direct	
  &	
  Affinity	
  Marke*ng	
  Services	
  Limited.! STRICTLY	
  CONFIDENTIAL! 14	
  
Apply customer understanding to create a superior customer experience
Insurance Needs!
Quality Requirement!
Channel Preference!
Mood (Sentiment)!
Purchase Journey !
Customer Life Stage!
RIGHT Customer!
RIGHT Time!
RIGHT Channel!
RIGHT Product!
What: Understanding Customer
Copyright	
  ©	
  2016	
  Aegon	
  Direct	
  &	
  Affinity	
  Marke*ng	
  Services	
  Limited.! STRICTLY	
  CONFIDENTIAL! 15	
  
Technology	
  Needed	
  
Insight-Driven Customer-Led Insurance Platform
People! Technology! Process! Data!
CUSTOMER!
INSIGHTS!
CUSTOMER!
EXPERIENCE!
infinite learning!
infinite learning!
Hugh	
  Terry	
  @	
  The	
  Digital	
  Insurer:	
  
The	
  mul8-­‐touch	
  customer	
  
17	
  
Welcome	
  to	
  digital	
  customers:	
  “they	
  are	
  mul8-­‐touch”	
  
17	
  
Myth	
  #1:	
  Digital	
  is	
  a	
  new	
  distribu*on	
  channel	
  
Reality	
  :	
  Digital	
  enables	
  customer	
  (&	
  distributor)	
  engagement	
  
Online	
  
Face	
  To	
  Face	
  
Phone	
  /	
  
Virtual	
  	
  
The	
  mul8-­‐channel	
  customer	
  is…	
  
  Becer	
  informed	
  
  More	
  demanding	
  
  Uses	
  mul*ple	
  customer	
  touch	
  
points	
  for	
  both	
  sales	
  &	
  services	
  
  Increasingly	
  starts	
  on-­‐line	
  
  Will	
  jump	
  channels	
  at	
  any	
  point	
  –	
  
catch	
  them	
  if	
  you	
  can!	
  
email	
  response	
  8mes	
  –	
  slower	
  than	
  postal	
  mail?	
  
18	
  Source:	
  Ep*ca,	
  Survey	
  of	
  10	
  health	
  insurers,	
  APAC	
  
Life	
  insurance:	
  There	
  are	
  untapped	
  opportuni8es	
  around	
  the	
  world	
  
Sources	
  of	
  financial	
  advice	
  
Chart	
  Source	
  :	
  Noble	
  Oak	
  Life	
  	
  “Pure	
  Life	
  “Survey	
  March	
  2016	
  -­‐	
  Australia.	
  *Swiss	
  Re	
  Asia	
  Pacific	
  Mortality	
  Protec*on	
  gap	
  	
  2015	
   19	
  
78%	
  
12%	
  
10%	
  
US$55	
  
trillion	
  
Protec*on	
  
gap	
  in	
  Asia*	
  
Life	
  insurance:	
  There	
  are	
  untapped	
  opportuni8es	
  around	
  the	
  world	
  
digital	
  strategies	
  can	
  change	
  the	
  paradigm	
  that	
  “life	
  
insurance	
  is	
  sold	
  not	
  bought”	
  
20	
  
12%	
  
Have	
  you	
  ever	
  used	
  technology	
  to	
  purchase	
  the	
  following	
  
product?	
  
Chart	
  Source	
  :	
  Noble	
  Oak	
  Life	
  	
  “Pure	
  Life	
  “Survey	
  March	
  2016	
  -­‐	
  Australia.	
  	
  
68%	
  Would	
  purchase	
  Life	
  
insurance	
  online	
  with	
  the	
  
right	
  resources	
  
	
  
But	
  less	
  than	
  
	
  
12%	
  have	
  so	
  far	
  
21
21
Source:	
  Swiss	
  Re	
  Sigma	
  02/14	
   21	
  
The	
  cross	
  channel	
  journey	
  	
  
”mono”	
  communica*on	
  channels	
  are	
  going	
  the	
  way	
  of	
  the	
  dinosaur	
  
Online	
  
search	
  
Compare	
  
quotes	
   Browse	
  
reviews	
  
Targeted	
  
advert	
  
Receive	
  quote	
   Check	
  with	
  
friends	
  
Buy	
  online	
  
Text/email	
  
confirma*on	
  
Online	
  customer	
  
survey	
  
Fill	
  out	
  on-­‐line	
  
claim	
  request	
  
Post	
  ra*ng	
  and	
  
review	
  	
  
Tweet	
  
review	
  
Like	
  
Renewal	
  
no*fica*on	
  
Tweet	
  review	
  	
  
Referrals	
  to	
  
family/friends	
  
Follow-­‐up	
  call	
  
Buy	
  through	
  
agent	
  
Approach	
  
agent	
  
Product	
  
related	
  call	
  
Request	
  further	
  
informa*on	
  
Report	
  claim	
  
Gather	
  
Informa8on	
  
Seek	
  advise	
   Purchase	
  policy	
  
A]er	
  sales	
  
service	
  
Make	
  claim	
  
Internet	
  
Mobile	
  
Social	
  media	
  
Agent/broker	
  
Call	
  center	
  
Retail	
  branch/
bank	
  
Note:	
  The	
  red	
  line	
  shows	
  an	
  example	
  buying	
  journey	
  ini*ated	
  by	
  a	
  mobile	
  advert,	
  and	
  the	
  blue	
  line	
  a	
  purchase	
  experience	
  via	
  
online	
  search.	
  
22	
  
22	
  Source	
  :	
  McKinsey	
  Study	
  
Customers	
  prefer	
  digital	
  customer	
  service:	
  Telco	
  example	
  
The	
  more	
  digital	
  the	
  journey,	
  the	
  higher	
  the	
  sa8sfac8on	
  (and	
  the	
  lower	
  expenses	
  are)	
  
Channels	
   Customer	
  service	
  journey1	
   Share	
  of	
  
transac8ons	
  
Customer	
  
sa8sfac8on,2	
  %	
  
Tradi8onal	
  
Phone	
  
Vendor	
  
Mail/fax	
  
E-­‐mail	
  
Click	
  to	
  call	
  
Starts	
   Ends	
  
57	
  
Digital	
  
E-­‐chat	
  
Forum	
  
FAQ	
  
Personal	
  account	
  
Virtual	
  assistant	
  
Social	
  media	
  
Tradi*onal	
  
Only	
  
11%	
  
Digital	
  to	
  
Tradi*onal	
  
Tradi*onal	
  
to	
  digital	
  
41%	
  
41%	
  
Digital	
  Only	
   15%	
  
61	
  
76	
  
62	
  
Digital	
  only	
  =	
  +33%	
  over	
  tradi8onal	
  only	
  
1Telecom	
  example,	
  Western	
  Europe;	
  4	
  service	
  journeys	
  were	
  iden*fied	
  based	
  on	
  an	
  analysis	
  of	
  11	
  touch	
  points	
  spanning	
  tradi*onal	
  and	
  digital	
  channels.	
  For	
  
tradi*onal-­‐to-­‐digital	
  journeys	
  (and	
  voice	
  versa),	
  the	
  first	
  channel	
  switch	
  was	
  used	
  to	
  	
  allocate	
  the	
  journey.	
  	
  
2Respondents	
  who	
  ranked	
  their	
  sa*sfac*on	
  in	
  the	
  top	
  3	
  on	
  a	
  7-­‐point	
  scale,	
  where	
  7	
  =	
  most	
  sa*sfied.	
  
Also	
  >	
  25%	
  cheaper	
  
“Digitally	
  enhanced”	
  
Insurance	
  Advisors	
  
Mul8-­‐Device	
  Access	
  
Customer	
  
Experience	
  Centre	
  
23	
  
Customer	
  Experience:	
  What	
  is	
  “Digital	
  First”	
  in	
  the	
  world	
  of	
  insurance?	
  
All	
  else	
  being	
  equal	
  the	
  service	
  hierarchy	
  is:	
  
•  Online	
  self	
  service	
  
•  Chat	
  /	
  email–	
  for	
  non	
  urgent	
  /	
  simple	
  
•  	
  Virtual	
  Voice	
  –	
  for	
  urgent	
  /	
  complex	
  
All	
  else	
  being	
  equal	
  the	
  sales	
  hierarchy	
  for	
  more	
  
complex	
  insurance	
  products	
  is:	
  
•  Online	
  to	
  Virtual	
  advisor	
  
•  Virtual	
  to	
  face	
  –to-­‐face	
  advisor	
  
•  Online	
  only	
  
This	
  is	
  counter	
  intui8ve!	
  In	
  the	
  medium	
  term	
  this	
  
may	
  change	
  as	
  AI	
  improves	
  
THE	
  MULTI-­‐	
  
TOUCH	
  CUSTOMER	
  
ONLINE	
  
Face	
  -­‐to-­‐Face	
  
VIRTUAL
VOICE	
  
Trust	
  is	
  at	
  the	
  
heart	
  of	
  
insurance	
  
	
  Great	
  insurance	
  
advisors	
  -­‐	
  always	
  
in	
  demand*	
  
Customer	
  
service	
  maners	
  
Digital	
  Transforma8on:	
  Don’t	
  forget	
  the	
  basic	
  “DNA”	
  
24	
  
*	
  But	
  they	
  could	
  be	
  supported	
  more	
  by	
  digital	
  tools	
  
USAA:	
  Have	
  it	
  cracked	
  
25	
  Source	
  :	
  hcp://www.insightsfromanaly*cs.com/blog/bid/324678/Top-­‐10-­‐U-­‐S-­‐Net-­‐Promoter-­‐Scores-­‐NPS-­‐for-­‐2013	
  	
  
Customer	
  Centricity	
  leader:	
  USAA	
  
Puts	
  customer	
  needs	
  ahead	
  of	
  profits	
  
Strong	
  focus	
  on	
  employee	
  training	
  	
  
Ø Comprehensive	
  integra*on	
  
process	
  for	
  new	
  joiners	
  to	
  
familiarise	
  them	
  with	
  the	
  USAA	
  
values	
  and	
  culture.	
  
Ø Ethos	
  Training	
  Alloca*on:	
  3%	
  
of	
  yearly	
  budget	
  vs.	
  insurance	
  
industry	
  average	
  of	
  1.5% 	
  	
  
	
  	
  
Ø Intense	
  communica*on	
  to	
  
members,	
  around	
  shared	
  
values	
  and	
  daily	
  concerns	
  of	
  
military	
  staff.	
  
	
  	
  
Ø USAA	
  consolidated	
  all	
  of	
  its	
  
customer	
  interac*on	
  groups	
  
into	
  a	
  single	
  organiza*on,	
  
Member	
  Experience	
  
Ø By	
  bringing	
  together	
  all	
  
customer-­‐facing	
  groups,	
  USAA	
  
hopes	
  to	
  deliver	
  more	
  cohesive	
  
experiences	
  to	
  members 	
  	
  
Re-­‐configuring	
  organisa8onally	
  	
  
Ø Agile	
  Labs:	
  This	
  ini*a*ve	
  puts	
  
product	
  experts	
  and	
  IT	
  pros	
  
together	
  in	
  a	
  workspace	
  to	
  
develop	
  prototypes	
  without	
  the	
  
need	
  of	
  phased	
  approval.	
  It	
  
delivers	
  45%	
  faster	
  than	
  its	
  
tradi*onal	
  waterfall	
  
development	
  approach.	
   	
  	
  
Embedded	
  within	
  company	
  culture	
  
26	
  Q.	
  How	
  Can	
  others	
  	
  look	
  to	
  match	
  USAA’s	
  global	
  leadership	
  in	
  NPS?	
  
D	
  
	
  
P	
  
	
  
C	
  
Customer	
  Portal	
  /	
  App	
  
Policy	
  Systems	
  
Advisor	
  
Portal	
  Lead/Prospect	
  Management	
  
Sales	
  
Opportuni8es	
  
The	
  Digital	
  Advisor	
  
Business	
  Model	
  
Tablet	
  
27	
  
Journey	
  1:	
  Digital	
  Transforma8on	
  of	
  face-­‐to	
  face	
  
	
  
Digital	
  Opportuni*es	
  
1.	
  More	
  Leads	
  
2.	
  Becer	
  service	
  
3.	
  Becer	
  selling	
  
Bener	
  customer	
  service	
  
Customer	
  portal/app:	
  An	
  on-­‐line	
  marke*ng	
  capability	
  for	
  
customer	
  engagement	
  leading	
  to	
  cross	
  sell	
  /	
  up	
  	
  
sell	
  opportuni*es	
  
1
Build	
  a	
  digital	
  “eco-­‐system”	
  around	
  legacy	
  policy	
  systems	
  to	
  treat	
  customers	
  like	
  customers	
  
2 Customer	
  experience	
  centre:	
  Mul*	
  channel	
  customer	
  
support	
  to	
  connect	
  customer	
  interac*ons	
  –	
  a	
  digitally	
  
assisted	
  customer	
  service	
  revolu*on	
  (the	
  engine	
  room	
  for	
  
conver*ng	
  “data	
  into	
  business”)	
  
3 Advisor	
  portal:	
  Customer	
  data	
  and	
  advisor	
  performance	
  at	
  
your	
  finger	
  *ps	
  
	
  Business	
  outcome:	
  
  Building	
  deeper,	
  richer	
  and	
  becer	
  rela*onships	
  with	
  
customers	
  and	
  advisors	
  
  Facilitate	
  and	
  co-­‐partners	
  the	
  advisors	
  to	
  becer	
  meet	
  
customer	
  needs	
  
  Allow	
  “farming”	
  as	
  well	
  as	
  “hun*ng”	
  
Customer	
  Portal	
  /	
  App	
  
Customer	
  Experience	
  Centre	
  
Policy	
  Systems	
  
Advisor	
  
Portal	
  
28	
  
Tablet	
  
Online	
  distribu8on:	
  Beagle	
  Street	
  
Business	
  Model	
  
	
  
Ø Applying	
  P&C	
  business	
  model	
  
learning	
  to	
  life	
  insurance	
  
	
  
Ø Cheaper,	
  faster	
  and	
  infinitely	
  
scalable	
  business	
  model	
  
Ø Direct-­‐to-­‐consumer	
  only	
  –	
  no	
  
tradi*onal	
  distribu*on	
  
	
  
Ø 	
  A	
  digital	
  approach	
  to	
  
acquiring	
  customers	
  
	
  
Ø Complete	
  online	
  fulfilment	
  -­‐	
  
Engaging	
  online	
  applica*on	
  
	
  
Ø Truly	
  omni-­‐channel	
  delivery	
  
Ø 	
  Innova*ve	
  business	
  model	
  
that	
  capitalises	
  on	
  transparency	
  
of	
  pricing	
  and	
  low	
  cost	
  of	
  sales,	
  
service	
  and	
  distribu*on	
  
Ø 	
  Google	
  and	
  others	
  are	
  now	
  
pushing	
  this	
  model	
  in	
  the	
  US	
  
Ø Beagle	
  street	
  products	
  can	
  be	
  
bought	
  online	
  within	
  10	
  
minutes	
  via	
  any	
  device,	
  usually	
  
at	
  prices	
  30	
  percent	
  lower	
  than	
  
tradi*onal	
  players,	
  and	
  with	
  a	
  
basket	
  of	
  value-­‐added	
  services	
  
included	
  free-­‐of-­‐charge	
  
Distribu8on	
  and	
  Experience	
  
What’s	
  different?	
  
29	
  
D	
  
	
  
P	
  
	
  
C	
  
30
Digital	
  First:	
  Sales	
  and	
  Marke8ng	
  model	
  
Website	
  
Bounce	
  
Connect	
  &	
  
Engage	
  
	
  Inform	
  &	
  
Educate	
  
Educate	
  
Quota*on	
  
Consumer	
  
Virtual	
  Sales	
  	
  
Advice	
  &	
  	
  
support	
  
Buy	
  
Landing	
  page	
  
Digital	
  Marke8ng	
  
Con8nuous	
  	
  
improvement	
  
Permission	
  	
  
based	
  	
  
Prospect	
  	
  
Database	
  
Marke8ng	
  	
  
Services	
  
Inform	
  
Buy	
  
Direct	
  
Buy	
  
Phone	
  
Offer	
  
Data	
  &	
  content	
  
Consumer	
  data	
  	
  
Data	
  
Insight	
  
Data	
  
&	
  
Content	
  
Visit	
  website	
  
Don’t	
  forget	
  about	
  the	
  human-­‐human	
  touch	
  
The	
  rise	
  of	
  O2O	
  models	
  –	
  on-­‐line	
  to	
  offline	
  
3232	
  
Journey	
  3	
  -­‐	
  LifeBroker:	
  Aggregator	
  
Ø Lifebroker	
  has	
  a	
  strong	
  
focus	
  on	
  excellence	
  in	
  
customer	
  service	
  and	
  is	
  
one	
  of	
  leading	
  examples	
  
of	
  insurer	
  taking	
  a	
  stake	
  
in	
  the	
  distribu*on	
  model	
  
Customer	
  Focus	
  
Key	
  Product	
  Features	
  
	
  
Ø Provides	
  price	
  and	
  benefit	
  comparison	
  from	
  more	
  than	
  10	
  
providers	
  
Ø Simple	
  process	
  leading	
  to	
  a	
  call-­‐back	
  instead	
  of	
  an	
  online	
  
applica8on	
  process	
  
Ø Strong	
  focus	
  on	
  excellence	
  in	
  customer	
  service	
  with	
  a	
  mul*-­‐
channel	
  and	
  differen*ated	
  service	
  challenge	
  
Ø One	
  of	
  many	
  examples	
  of	
  insurers	
  taking	
  a	
  stake	
  in	
  a	
  distribu*on	
  
model	
  
Quick	
  Online	
  Comparison	
  
D	
  
	
  
P	
  
	
  
C	
  
33
33
Journey	
  2	
  -­‐	
  Life	
  Search:	
  puqng	
  a	
  friendly	
  face	
  first	
  
33	
  
34
34
	
  Life	
  Search:	
  selling	
  the	
  benefits	
  of	
  advice	
  
34	
  
35
35
	
  Life	
  Search:	
  email	
  response	
  in	
  <5	
  minutes	
  
35	
  
Thank	
  you	
  for	
  reques*ng	
  a	
  quote	
  
from	
  LifeSearch.	
  	
  	
  
If	
  you’re	
  wondering	
  what	
  to	
  do	
  next,	
  
I’m	
  here	
  to	
  help.	
  
	
  	
  	
  
The	
  insurers	
  like	
  you	
  to	
  take	
  
advantage	
  of	
  our	
  free	
  advice	
  service	
  
geyng	
  your	
  cover	
  right	
  first	
  *me.	
  
	
  	
  
As	
  online	
  prices	
  aren’t	
  always	
  
accurate	
  and	
  not	
  everything	
  shows	
  
up,	
  we	
  ask	
  a	
  few	
  more	
  ques*ons	
  to	
  
run	
  a	
  more	
  detailed	
  tailored	
  search	
  
for	
  you:	
  
	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  
·∙	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  Do	
  you	
  have	
  any	
  health	
  issues	
  (Currently	
  
or	
  in	
  the	
  past)	
  or	
  take	
  any	
  medica*on	
  /	
  *me	
  
off	
  work	
  recently?	
  
·∙	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  Occupa*on?	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  
·∙	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  Height	
  and	
  Weight?	
  
·∙	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  Family	
  History	
  (Parents	
  and	
  Brothers	
  and	
  
sisters,	
  Heart	
  Acacks,	
  Strokes,	
  Cancer	
  or	
  
Diabetes	
  before	
  65yo)?	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  
·∙	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  What	
  are	
  you	
  wan*ng	
  insurance	
  to	
  do?	
  
·∙	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  How	
  long	
  would	
  you	
  manage	
  on	
  sick	
  pay	
  
and	
  savings	
  if	
  you	
  couldn’t	
  work	
  due	
  to	
  ill	
  
health?	
  
If	
  you	
  can	
  get	
  this	
  informa8on	
  back	
  to	
  me,	
  I	
  
can	
  run	
  a	
  whole	
  of	
  market	
  search	
  to	
  find	
  you	
  
the	
  right	
  cover	
  at	
  the	
  lowest	
  price.	
  
	
  	
  
	
  	
  
Product	
  ecosystem	
  model:	
  Good	
  Doctor	
  (Ping	
  An)	
  
36
Q.	
  How	
  do	
  insurers	
  a)	
  create	
  eco	
  systems	
  and	
  b)	
  secure	
  their	
  place	
  in	
  those	
  eco-­‐systems?	
  
  >70	
  million	
  registered	
  users	
  
  >1,000	
  full	
  *me	
  doctors	
  
  Access	
  to	
  50,000	
  contracted	
  doctors	
  
and	
  5,000	
  specialists	
  	
  
  7/24/365	
  access	
  including	
  video	
  
consultant	
  
Find	
  a	
  Doctor	
  
	
  
	
  
•  May	
  2016	
  :	
  US$500	
  million	
  series	
  A	
  funding	
  	
  
•  Goal	
  of	
  	
  crea*ng	
  largest	
  “closed”	
  healthcare	
  eco-­‐system	
  	
  =	
  
“	
  Internet	
  healthcare	
  2.0”	
  
	
  
	
  
3636	
  
D	
  
	
  
P	
  
	
  
C	
  
Source:	
  Eco-­‐system	
  picture:	
  Ping	
  An	
  presenta*on	
  
The	
  Dental	
  Eco-­‐system:	
  Beam	
  Technologies	
  
Smart brushes to track the
brushing habits of you…
and your family
Connecting life and family
Competitive pricing that doesn’t skim on
quality
“We’ve got you covered”
•  Dental insurance plans are 10% - 25%
cheaper than other insurance providers
•  Sophisticated brush design
•  Accurate mechanism
•  Secured data storage
•  Insurance Launched late August 2015
•  Plans covering individuals, families and companies
•  $5 million investment from Drive Capital in 2014
•  >200,000 access points; 50 states in
USA
•  100,000 dentists
Insurance plan covers
•  X-Ray
•  Cleaning
•  Cavities
•  Orthodontia
•  Preventive Measures
including toothbrush; toothpaste and floss
Source:	
  KPMG	
  Analysis;	
  	
  Beam;	
  SiliconAngle;	
  Forbes,	
  2015	
  
	
  
	
  
Q.	
  Best	
  illustra*ve	
  example	
  of	
  a	
  digital	
  	
  eco-­‐system	
  business	
  model?	
  
D	
  
	
  
P	
  
	
  
C	
  
Snap	
  Poll	
  3	
  
38	
  
Q .	
  Stand	
  back	
  and	
  become	
  a	
  customer.	
  Which	
  of	
  the	
  
following	
  methods	
  of	
  purchasing	
  term	
  life	
  insurance	
  is	
  the	
  
one	
  that	
  you	
  would	
  personally	
  choose	
  
	
  
How	
  to	
  par8cipate:	
  	
  
Just	
  respond	
  to	
  the	
  ques*on	
  when	
  it	
  appears	
  on	
  your	
  
screen	
  
	
  
§  Informal	
  &	
  Welcoming	
  –	
  everyone	
  should	
  be	
  comfortable	
  
§  Demonstra*ng	
  interest	
  and	
  excitement	
  in	
  digital	
  Insurance	
  
§  Designed	
  to	
  educate	
  and	
  inform	
  –	
  not	
  to	
  sell	
  	
  
§  Not	
  “startup	
  vibe”	
  and	
  not	
  “	
  corporate	
  insurance	
  vibe”	
  –	
  a	
  mee*ng	
  in	
  the	
  middle	
  
§  Posi*oned	
  as	
  THE	
  must	
  acend	
  digital	
  insurance	
  conference	
  in	
  Asia.	
  Aim	
  to	
  Become	
  
an	
  annual	
  event	
  with	
  venue	
  likely	
  alterna*ng	
  between	
  Hong	
  Kong	
  and	
  Singapore	
  
	
  
	
  Conference	
  “Vibe”	
  
Bringing our community in Asia together for an
innovative conference on digital insurance in 2016
Location: Hong Kong
Date: 23rd November 2016
http:asia2016.the-digital-insurer.com
Digital	
  Insurance	
  Conference	
  in	
  Asia	
  
Post	
  webinar	
  ac8vi8es	
  
 Recording	
  will	
  be	
  emailed	
  to	
  registered	
  par*cipants	
  
 Next	
  Webinar	
  will	
  be	
  in	
  a	
  couple	
  of	
  months	
  on	
  the	
  blockchain	
  
 Please	
  give	
  us	
  your	
  feedback	
  
 If	
  you	
  would	
  like	
  to	
  follow	
  up	
  with	
  any	
  of	
  the	
  panelists	
  
	
  -­‐	
  Simon	
  Phipps:	
  simon.phipps@kpmg.com	
  
	
  -­‐	
  James	
  Harding:	
  james.harding@360globalnet.com	
  
	
  -­‐	
  Dr	
  Onn	
  Keet	
  Peng:	
  kp.onn@adms-­‐asia.com	
  
	
  -­‐	
  Hugh	
  Terry:	
  hugh.terry@the-­‐digital-­‐insurer.com	
  
	
  	
  
	
  
	
  
	
  
	
  
	
  

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Insurance Through the Eyes of the Customer

  • 1. 1 Why  Telema*cs?   Webinar:  Insurance  Aggregators  In  Asia   29th  September  2015     Webinar:  Insurance  Through  The  Eyes  of  the  Customer      
  • 3. Discussion  agenda   1   Presenta8ons:   James  Harding:    Improving  customer  self  service  in  insurance   Dr  Onn  Keet  Peng:  Using  analy*cs  to  understand  the  customer   Hugh  Terry:  The  mul*-­‐touch  customer     2   Ques8ons  and  Answers   3   Snap  Poll  –  share  your  view  
  • 4. Ques8ons  &  Answers      How  to  par8cipate:    If  you  have  a  ques*on  please  type  into  the  messaging  area   and  send  to  the  presenters    Session  format:     The  moderator  will  use  a  combina*on  of  his  own  ques*ons   and  those  from  the  audience    
  • 5. James  Harding  @  360Globalnet:   Improving  customer  self-­‐service  in  insurance  
  • 6. Designed with the customer in mind n  Devised the proposition (2010-2012) n  Top UK insurer, digitalisation model n  Customer empowered to self-serve claim n  New process = complete transparency for customer + insurer + third parties n  Imagery validates claim, provides ‘visual’ proof, all data stored in the cloud n  Assisted claims, where necessary WYi5
  • 7. n  Net promoter score 76 joint 1st in UK - would rank No 6 in USA n  Customers score 10/10 in more cases than the rest of the scores combined n  Cycle times significantly reduced and claims settled in timescales to rival retail online n  Indemnity cost reductions of $600 (£400) per claim over 360SelfServe/360Pronto n  $3,600 on complex claims where live- streaming takes place and reduction in cycle times n  Insurers can move to distributed working with staff at home and “on demand” working n  WYi5/Pronto completes 40% of its’ jobs out of hours including weekends (Sat/Sun) n  100,000+ claims have been settled WYi5/ Pronto, 250,000 SelfServe The Results are compelling
  • 8. Dr  Onn  Keet  Peng  @  PT  Aegon  Marke8ng  Services   Indonesia:   Using  analy8cs  to  understand  the  customer  
  • 9. Copyright  ©  2016  Aegon  Direct  &  Affinity  Marke*ng  Services  Limited.! STRICTLY  CONFIDENTIAL! 9  
  • 10. Copyright  ©  2016  Aegon  Direct  &  Affinity  Marke*ng  Services  Limited.! STRICTLY  CONFIDENTIAL! 10   Right   Customer   Right     Time   Right   Channel   Right     Product   DISTRIBUTION   PRICING   UNDERWRITING   Why need to understand customer?
  • 11. Copyright  ©  2016  Aegon  Direct  &  Affinity  Marke*ng  Services  Limited.! STRICTLY  CONFIDENTIAL! 11   How to understand customer? Understanding customer needs based on the insight extracted from … TRANSACTIONAL! INTERACTIONS! DIGITAL   FOOTPRINTS  
  • 12. Copyright  ©  2016  Aegon  Direct  &  Affinity  Marke*ng  Services  Limited.! STRICTLY  CONFIDENTIAL! 12   How to understand customer? Methodology
  • 13. Copyright  ©  2016  Aegon  Direct  &  Affinity  Marke*ng  Services  Limited.! STRICTLY  CONFIDENTIAL! 13   What: Understanding Customer Insurance Needs! e.g. types and level of protection needed Quality Requirement! e.g. preferred level of service standard Channel Preference! e.g. email, IM, Telephone, face to face Mood (Sentiment)! e.g. happy, neutral, sad… Purchase Journey ! e.g. Awareness ⎝ Education ⎝ Consideration ⎝ Enrolment ⎝ Loyalty Customer Life Stage! e.g. single, married, married with children, empty nest and retired Customer interactions for insurance should based on the understanding of:
  • 14. Copyright  ©  2016  Aegon  Direct  &  Affinity  Marke*ng  Services  Limited.! STRICTLY  CONFIDENTIAL! 14   Apply customer understanding to create a superior customer experience Insurance Needs! Quality Requirement! Channel Preference! Mood (Sentiment)! Purchase Journey ! Customer Life Stage! RIGHT Customer! RIGHT Time! RIGHT Channel! RIGHT Product! What: Understanding Customer
  • 15. Copyright  ©  2016  Aegon  Direct  &  Affinity  Marke*ng  Services  Limited.! STRICTLY  CONFIDENTIAL! 15   Technology  Needed   Insight-Driven Customer-Led Insurance Platform People! Technology! Process! Data! CUSTOMER! INSIGHTS! CUSTOMER! EXPERIENCE! infinite learning! infinite learning!
  • 16. Hugh  Terry  @  The  Digital  Insurer:   The  mul8-­‐touch  customer  
  • 17. 17   Welcome  to  digital  customers:  “they  are  mul8-­‐touch”   17   Myth  #1:  Digital  is  a  new  distribu*on  channel   Reality  :  Digital  enables  customer  (&  distributor)  engagement   Online   Face  To  Face   Phone  /   Virtual     The  mul8-­‐channel  customer  is…     Becer  informed     More  demanding     Uses  mul*ple  customer  touch   points  for  both  sales  &  services     Increasingly  starts  on-­‐line     Will  jump  channels  at  any  point  –   catch  them  if  you  can!  
  • 18. email  response  8mes  –  slower  than  postal  mail?   18  Source:  Ep*ca,  Survey  of  10  health  insurers,  APAC  
  • 19. Life  insurance:  There  are  untapped  opportuni8es  around  the  world   Sources  of  financial  advice   Chart  Source  :  Noble  Oak  Life    “Pure  Life  “Survey  March  2016  -­‐  Australia.  *Swiss  Re  Asia  Pacific  Mortality  Protec*on  gap    2015   19   78%   12%   10%   US$55   trillion   Protec*on   gap  in  Asia*  
  • 20. Life  insurance:  There  are  untapped  opportuni8es  around  the  world   digital  strategies  can  change  the  paradigm  that  “life   insurance  is  sold  not  bought”   20   12%   Have  you  ever  used  technology  to  purchase  the  following   product?   Chart  Source  :  Noble  Oak  Life    “Pure  Life  “Survey  March  2016  -­‐  Australia.     68%  Would  purchase  Life   insurance  online  with  the   right  resources     But  less  than     12%  have  so  far  
  • 21. 21 21 Source:  Swiss  Re  Sigma  02/14   21   The  cross  channel  journey     ”mono”  communica*on  channels  are  going  the  way  of  the  dinosaur   Online   search   Compare   quotes   Browse   reviews   Targeted   advert   Receive  quote   Check  with   friends   Buy  online   Text/email   confirma*on   Online  customer   survey   Fill  out  on-­‐line   claim  request   Post  ra*ng  and   review     Tweet   review   Like   Renewal   no*fica*on   Tweet  review     Referrals  to   family/friends   Follow-­‐up  call   Buy  through   agent   Approach   agent   Product   related  call   Request  further   informa*on   Report  claim   Gather   Informa8on   Seek  advise   Purchase  policy   A]er  sales   service   Make  claim   Internet   Mobile   Social  media   Agent/broker   Call  center   Retail  branch/ bank   Note:  The  red  line  shows  an  example  buying  journey  ini*ated  by  a  mobile  advert,  and  the  blue  line  a  purchase  experience  via   online  search.  
  • 22. 22   22  Source  :  McKinsey  Study   Customers  prefer  digital  customer  service:  Telco  example   The  more  digital  the  journey,  the  higher  the  sa8sfac8on  (and  the  lower  expenses  are)   Channels   Customer  service  journey1   Share  of   transac8ons   Customer   sa8sfac8on,2  %   Tradi8onal   Phone   Vendor   Mail/fax   E-­‐mail   Click  to  call   Starts   Ends   57   Digital   E-­‐chat   Forum   FAQ   Personal  account   Virtual  assistant   Social  media   Tradi*onal   Only   11%   Digital  to   Tradi*onal   Tradi*onal   to  digital   41%   41%   Digital  Only   15%   61   76   62   Digital  only  =  +33%  over  tradi8onal  only   1Telecom  example,  Western  Europe;  4  service  journeys  were  iden*fied  based  on  an  analysis  of  11  touch  points  spanning  tradi*onal  and  digital  channels.  For   tradi*onal-­‐to-­‐digital  journeys  (and  voice  versa),  the  first  channel  switch  was  used  to    allocate  the  journey.     2Respondents  who  ranked  their  sa*sfac*on  in  the  top  3  on  a  7-­‐point  scale,  where  7  =  most  sa*sfied.   Also  >  25%  cheaper  
  • 23. “Digitally  enhanced”   Insurance  Advisors   Mul8-­‐Device  Access   Customer   Experience  Centre   23   Customer  Experience:  What  is  “Digital  First”  in  the  world  of  insurance?   All  else  being  equal  the  service  hierarchy  is:   •  Online  self  service   •  Chat  /  email–  for  non  urgent  /  simple   •   Virtual  Voice  –  for  urgent  /  complex   All  else  being  equal  the  sales  hierarchy  for  more   complex  insurance  products  is:   •  Online  to  Virtual  advisor   •  Virtual  to  face  –to-­‐face  advisor   •  Online  only   This  is  counter  intui8ve!  In  the  medium  term  this   may  change  as  AI  improves   THE  MULTI-­‐   TOUCH  CUSTOMER   ONLINE   Face  -­‐to-­‐Face   VIRTUAL VOICE  
  • 24. Trust  is  at  the   heart  of   insurance    Great  insurance   advisors  -­‐  always   in  demand*   Customer   service  maners   Digital  Transforma8on:  Don’t  forget  the  basic  “DNA”   24   *  But  they  could  be  supported  more  by  digital  tools  
  • 25. USAA:  Have  it  cracked   25  Source  :  hcp://www.insightsfromanaly*cs.com/blog/bid/324678/Top-­‐10-­‐U-­‐S-­‐Net-­‐Promoter-­‐Scores-­‐NPS-­‐for-­‐2013    
  • 26. Customer  Centricity  leader:  USAA   Puts  customer  needs  ahead  of  profits   Strong  focus  on  employee  training     Ø Comprehensive  integra*on   process  for  new  joiners  to   familiarise  them  with  the  USAA   values  and  culture.   Ø Ethos  Training  Alloca*on:  3%   of  yearly  budget  vs.  insurance   industry  average  of  1.5%         Ø Intense  communica*on  to   members,  around  shared   values  and  daily  concerns  of   military  staff.       Ø USAA  consolidated  all  of  its   customer  interac*on  groups   into  a  single  organiza*on,   Member  Experience   Ø By  bringing  together  all   customer-­‐facing  groups,  USAA   hopes  to  deliver  more  cohesive   experiences  to  members     Re-­‐configuring  organisa8onally     Ø Agile  Labs:  This  ini*a*ve  puts   product  experts  and  IT  pros   together  in  a  workspace  to   develop  prototypes  without  the   need  of  phased  approval.  It   delivers  45%  faster  than  its   tradi*onal  waterfall   development  approach.       Embedded  within  company  culture   26  Q.  How  Can  others    look  to  match  USAA’s  global  leadership  in  NPS?   D     P     C  
  • 27. Customer  Portal  /  App   Policy  Systems   Advisor   Portal  Lead/Prospect  Management   Sales   Opportuni8es   The  Digital  Advisor   Business  Model   Tablet   27   Journey  1:  Digital  Transforma8on  of  face-­‐to  face     Digital  Opportuni*es   1.  More  Leads   2.  Becer  service   3.  Becer  selling  
  • 28. Bener  customer  service   Customer  portal/app:  An  on-­‐line  marke*ng  capability  for   customer  engagement  leading  to  cross  sell  /  up     sell  opportuni*es   1 Build  a  digital  “eco-­‐system”  around  legacy  policy  systems  to  treat  customers  like  customers   2 Customer  experience  centre:  Mul*  channel  customer   support  to  connect  customer  interac*ons  –  a  digitally   assisted  customer  service  revolu*on  (the  engine  room  for   conver*ng  “data  into  business”)   3 Advisor  portal:  Customer  data  and  advisor  performance  at   your  finger  *ps    Business  outcome:     Building  deeper,  richer  and  becer  rela*onships  with   customers  and  advisors     Facilitate  and  co-­‐partners  the  advisors  to  becer  meet   customer  needs     Allow  “farming”  as  well  as  “hun*ng”   Customer  Portal  /  App   Customer  Experience  Centre   Policy  Systems   Advisor   Portal   28   Tablet  
  • 29. Online  distribu8on:  Beagle  Street   Business  Model     Ø Applying  P&C  business  model   learning  to  life  insurance     Ø Cheaper,  faster  and  infinitely   scalable  business  model   Ø Direct-­‐to-­‐consumer  only  –  no   tradi*onal  distribu*on     Ø   A  digital  approach  to   acquiring  customers     Ø Complete  online  fulfilment  -­‐   Engaging  online  applica*on     Ø Truly  omni-­‐channel  delivery   Ø   Innova*ve  business  model   that  capitalises  on  transparency   of  pricing  and  low  cost  of  sales,   service  and  distribu*on   Ø   Google  and  others  are  now   pushing  this  model  in  the  US   Ø Beagle  street  products  can  be   bought  online  within  10   minutes  via  any  device,  usually   at  prices  30  percent  lower  than   tradi*onal  players,  and  with  a   basket  of  value-­‐added  services   included  free-­‐of-­‐charge   Distribu8on  and  Experience   What’s  different?   29   D     P     C  
  • 30. 30 Digital  First:  Sales  and  Marke8ng  model   Website   Bounce   Connect  &   Engage    Inform  &   Educate   Educate   Quota*on   Consumer   Virtual  Sales     Advice  &     support   Buy   Landing  page   Digital  Marke8ng   Con8nuous     improvement   Permission     based     Prospect     Database   Marke8ng     Services   Inform   Buy   Direct   Buy   Phone   Offer   Data  &  content   Consumer  data     Data   Insight   Data   &   Content   Visit  website  
  • 31. Don’t  forget  about  the  human-­‐human  touch   The  rise  of  O2O  models  –  on-­‐line  to  offline  
  • 32. 3232   Journey  3  -­‐  LifeBroker:  Aggregator   Ø Lifebroker  has  a  strong   focus  on  excellence  in   customer  service  and  is   one  of  leading  examples   of  insurer  taking  a  stake   in  the  distribu*on  model   Customer  Focus   Key  Product  Features     Ø Provides  price  and  benefit  comparison  from  more  than  10   providers   Ø Simple  process  leading  to  a  call-­‐back  instead  of  an  online   applica8on  process   Ø Strong  focus  on  excellence  in  customer  service  with  a  mul*-­‐ channel  and  differen*ated  service  challenge   Ø One  of  many  examples  of  insurers  taking  a  stake  in  a  distribu*on   model   Quick  Online  Comparison   D     P     C  
  • 33. 33 33 Journey  2  -­‐  Life  Search:  puqng  a  friendly  face  first   33  
  • 34. 34 34  Life  Search:  selling  the  benefits  of  advice   34  
  • 35. 35 35  Life  Search:  email  response  in  <5  minutes   35   Thank  you  for  reques*ng  a  quote   from  LifeSearch.       If  you’re  wondering  what  to  do  next,   I’m  here  to  help.         The  insurers  like  you  to  take   advantage  of  our  free  advice  service   geyng  your  cover  right  first  *me.       As  online  prices  aren’t  always   accurate  and  not  everything  shows   up,  we  ask  a  few  more  ques*ons  to   run  a  more  detailed  tailored  search   for  you:             ·∙                  Do  you  have  any  health  issues  (Currently   or  in  the  past)  or  take  any  medica*on  /  *me   off  work  recently?   ·∙                  Occupa*on?                 ·∙                  Height  and  Weight?   ·∙                  Family  History  (Parents  and  Brothers  and   sisters,  Heart  Acacks,  Strokes,  Cancer  or   Diabetes  before  65yo)?                                 ·∙                  What  are  you  wan*ng  insurance  to  do?   ·∙                  How  long  would  you  manage  on  sick  pay   and  savings  if  you  couldn’t  work  due  to  ill   health?   If  you  can  get  this  informa8on  back  to  me,  I   can  run  a  whole  of  market  search  to  find  you   the  right  cover  at  the  lowest  price.          
  • 36. Product  ecosystem  model:  Good  Doctor  (Ping  An)   36 Q.  How  do  insurers  a)  create  eco  systems  and  b)  secure  their  place  in  those  eco-­‐systems?     >70  million  registered  users     >1,000  full  *me  doctors     Access  to  50,000  contracted  doctors   and  5,000  specialists       7/24/365  access  including  video   consultant   Find  a  Doctor       •  May  2016  :  US$500  million  series  A  funding     •  Goal  of    crea*ng  largest  “closed”  healthcare  eco-­‐system    =   “  Internet  healthcare  2.0”       3636   D     P     C   Source:  Eco-­‐system  picture:  Ping  An  presenta*on  
  • 37. The  Dental  Eco-­‐system:  Beam  Technologies   Smart brushes to track the brushing habits of you… and your family Connecting life and family Competitive pricing that doesn’t skim on quality “We’ve got you covered” •  Dental insurance plans are 10% - 25% cheaper than other insurance providers •  Sophisticated brush design •  Accurate mechanism •  Secured data storage •  Insurance Launched late August 2015 •  Plans covering individuals, families and companies •  $5 million investment from Drive Capital in 2014 •  >200,000 access points; 50 states in USA •  100,000 dentists Insurance plan covers •  X-Ray •  Cleaning •  Cavities •  Orthodontia •  Preventive Measures including toothbrush; toothpaste and floss Source:  KPMG  Analysis;    Beam;  SiliconAngle;  Forbes,  2015       Q.  Best  illustra*ve  example  of  a  digital    eco-­‐system  business  model?   D     P     C  
  • 38. Snap  Poll  3   38   Q .  Stand  back  and  become  a  customer.  Which  of  the   following  methods  of  purchasing  term  life  insurance  is  the   one  that  you  would  personally  choose     How  to  par8cipate:     Just  respond  to  the  ques*on  when  it  appears  on  your   screen    
  • 39. §  Informal  &  Welcoming  –  everyone  should  be  comfortable   §  Demonstra*ng  interest  and  excitement  in  digital  Insurance   §  Designed  to  educate  and  inform  –  not  to  sell     §  Not  “startup  vibe”  and  not  “  corporate  insurance  vibe”  –  a  mee*ng  in  the  middle   §  Posi*oned  as  THE  must  acend  digital  insurance  conference  in  Asia.  Aim  to  Become   an  annual  event  with  venue  likely  alterna*ng  between  Hong  Kong  and  Singapore      Conference  “Vibe”  
  • 40. Bringing our community in Asia together for an innovative conference on digital insurance in 2016 Location: Hong Kong Date: 23rd November 2016 http:asia2016.the-digital-insurer.com Digital  Insurance  Conference  in  Asia  
  • 41. Post  webinar  ac8vi8es    Recording  will  be  emailed  to  registered  par*cipants    Next  Webinar  will  be  in  a  couple  of  months  on  the  blockchain    Please  give  us  your  feedback    If  you  would  like  to  follow  up  with  any  of  the  panelists    -­‐  Simon  Phipps:  simon.phipps@kpmg.com    -­‐  James  Harding:  james.harding@360globalnet.com    -­‐  Dr  Onn  Keet  Peng:  kp.onn@adms-­‐asia.com    -­‐  Hugh  Terry:  hugh.terry@the-­‐digital-­‐insurer.com