Many self-employed people will receive a grant through the new Self-Employed Income Support Scheme (SEISS) this month. These payments can be up to £7,500 and will be counted as earnings under Universal Credit. As a result, lots of self-employed households will be affected by the complex 'surplus earnings' rules for the first time. In short, these rules mean that for many households, the SEISS money will be taken into account as earnings not just for the month it was received, but for future months as well. Welfare advisors need to understand the rules, and need a tool that can calculate eligibility all in one place, in order to advise people what their Universal Credit payments will be, and when they need to reclaim. Hear from Sue McCarron from Citizens Advice Wirral who shared how frontline staff have supported customers facing with fluctuating income using the Benefit and Budgeting Calculator. Review the slide to learn: - A simple guide to the SEISS, Universal Credit and surplus earnings rules - Worked examples to illustrate the challenge, and what to look out for - How our Benefit and Budgeting Calculator helps

1. How to simplify the
complexity of surplus
earnings
Wednesday 1 July
Policy in Practice
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5. Agenda
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● A simple guide to the SEISS, Universal Credit and surplus earnings rules
● Worked examples illustrating the challenge, and what to look out for
● How Wirral Citizens Advice helps people with fluctuating income
● Questions and answers
● Stay on for 15 mins for a Benefit and Budgeting Calculator demo (optional)

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8. Evidence to the world of work inquiry
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The increase in non-traditional working patterns provides an opportunity for those
with hidden barriers to work to engage with the labour market
However, flexible working patterns can also come with greater insecurity and do
not easily fit with benefit systems designed around full time regular work
This lack of fit between work and benefits means households risk having to
choose to engage with only one of these
1. Universal Credit does not work well for households who are not paid monthly
2. People who work zero-hour contracts do not see support when they need it.
3. Monthly work allowances do not respond to fluctuating earnings.
4. Monthly Assessment Periods do not adequately support self-employed
households
5. Fluctuating incomes can invoke complex surplus earnings regulations

9. Recap on measures put in place
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10. Covid measures (1): Job Retention
Scheme
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● Represented through PAYE before 19 March 2020, with a UK bank account
● Up until August 2020, CJRS pays 80% of the salary, up to £2,500, plus
employers NI contribution and minimum pension contribution
● Originally, could not undertake work for that employer and furlough must last
at least 3 weeks. After July, furlough can be part time
● The employer claims through HMRC
New rules
30 June Closed to new applicants. After this only those that have previously been furloughed
for 3 weeks can be furloughed. So final day for new furlough is 10 June
July 2020 Part-time furlough and minimum of 1 week
August 2020 Employer pays NI and tax
September 2020 Employer also pays 10% of wages (CJRS pays 70%)
October 2020 Employer also pays 20% of wages (CJRS pays 60%)

11. Covid measures (2): Self-employed
Income Support
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● Open to those who have completed a self-employed tax return for 2018/19,
are currently self-employed, intend to remain self-employed and have lost
money due to Covid19
● Must have self-employed trading profits less than £50,000 in 2018/19 and
self-employment more than 50% of taxable income. Or over last 3 years.
● Average of 80% of trading profit calculated over last 3 tax years, up to
£2,500/month
● HMRC will invite claimants to apply and can apply up to 13 July 2020
● Grant paid as a lump sum and counts as business income for tax credit and
UC purposes
New rules
August 2020 SEISS 2 opens. This will cover 70% of profit capped at £2,250. Paid in one 3 month
instalment from August onwards

12. Surplus earnings
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Surplus earnings regulations introduced to prevent abuse of the benefits system
Example
Someone arranges with their employer to pay all their annual salary of £30,000
in one month.
They won’t receive UC for that month but could claim full UC based on nil
income for the rest of the year.
If the person received monthly salary payments of £2,500 they would not be
eligible for UC

13. Surplus earnings
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Who is affected?
● Surplus earnings apply to both employed and self-employed claimants
● Prior to Coronavirus most likely to affect those with 2 x monthly earnings or 3
x fortnightly earnings OR self-employed
● Now most likely to affect employees with backdated furlough payments and
those receiving SEISS

14. Surplus earnings
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Surplus earnings will be applied to a new claim to UC where the claimant, or either
of joint claimants:
1. had an award of UC (the “old award”) that terminated within the 6 months
ending on the first day in respect of which the new claim is made and
2. has not been entitled to UC since the old award ended and
3. had total earned income in the final AP of the old award that exceeded the
relevant threshold
Where surplus earnings are to be applied to a new claim to UC, they will be
treated as earned income for the purposes of determining entitlement to UC, or
calculating the amount of that award where there is entitlement
If a claim is made after the six month period above, surplus earnings will not
be applied and the UC award will be calculated in the normal way
UC Regs, reg 54A(2)

15. Surplus earnings
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Exception
Surplus earnings will not apply where the claimant has, or had at the time the old
award terminated, recently been a victim of domestic violence
UC Regs, reg 54A(5); 2 reg 98
Self-employed losses
Self-employed claimants can offset trading losses against earnings.
There is no limit to the time that losses can be carried forward as long as they
have not been offset against previous earnings

16. Surplus earnings
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History
● Draft regulations had a de minimus of £100 (affects 40% of claimants)
● Regulations has a de minimus of £300 on the advice of the SSAC (affects
20% of claimants)
● From 2018 the DWP increased the de minimus to £2,500 in preparation for
managed migration pilot
“to provide for effective test and learn arrangements. The Committee
highlighted the importance of capturing learning around the formidable
challenges in communicating the policy to claimants”
● The £2,500 has been retained during Coronavirus measures (until March
2021)
● From April 2021 the de minimus will return to £300

17. Surplus earnings: example
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Example
Mateo is single living in private rented accommodation
He is self-employed providing a mobile cocktail bar
Since lockdown his income has fallen to £0
Mateo receives £650 Universal Credit/month
In June, he received a Self-employed Income Support Scheme payment
(SEISS) of £7,500 (gross)

18. Surplus earnings: example
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Calculate Nil UC amount:
Mateo’s nil UC threshold = ((Max UC – unearned income) /0.63) + WA
= ((£650-0)/0.63) + 0 = £1032
Calculate relevant threshold
Nil UC amount PLUS “de minimus” amount (£2,500)
= £1032+ £2,500 = £3,532
● If Mateo’s net earnings are over £3,532/month then surplus earnings
regulations will apply
● In June Mateo receives £7,500 (£5,800 net) from the SEISS so the surplus
earnings regulations apply

19. Surplus earnings: example
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Calculation
Month 1
Income of £5,800 is above the relevant threshold of £3,532 so Mateo’s UC is NIL
Calculate amount to c/f to month 2 (original surplus): £5800 - £3532 = £2,268
Month 2
Income used is £2,268 c/f from the previous month
His UC is NIL
Calculate amount to c/f to month 3 (adjusted surplus): £2,268 - £3532 = NIL
Month 3
Mateo receives full UC of £650

20. Surplus earnings: impact on household
income
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Impact

21. Surplus earnings: impact of SEISS
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Impact
From March to August Mateo receives £8,400
Without the grant he would have received £3,900 (6 payments of UC)
So, the grant is worth £4,500 (not £7,500 gross / £5,800 net)
There are implications for advisors due to complexity
There are implications for the claimant in order to budget

22. Surplus earnings: complications
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● Combined surplus earnings of joint claimants if they form a new partnership.
● If the claimant moves from a joint claim to a single claim 50% of surplus is
taken into the single claim
● Minimum Income Floor applies after calculation of surplus earnings
● Before May 2020: the claimant had to reclaim each month. However,
reclaiming if income goes up could increase the surplus. The general rule for
clients was to reclaim if earnings reduce in order to “use up” the
surplus earnings but not reclaim if earnings increase
● From May 2020: special arrangements under Coronavirus. The DWP will
presume that the claimant has reclaimed each month (for up to 5 months) and
automatically reinstate UC if appropriate. This is discretionary and there is
some confusion about how this will work

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24. Surplus earnings: benefit calculator
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27. Please introduce yourself and Citizens
Advice Wirral

28. What three main issues are your
clients facing with fluctuating income?

29. Can you give us a case study showing
how you helped a client deal with the
issue?

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31. ● Blog post: How do the surplus earnings rules work in practice?
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