Olivia walked through her journey to Product Management in the world of gaming and tech, talking about how to market your transferable skills, and how to get into the gaming industry. She also touched on the perils of passion, and balancing knowledge and personal experience with what's best for a wider user group. Lastly, in her current role, she discussed the unique challenges of communications products on a massive scale!
8. How to Market Your
Transferable Skills
July 10th, 2018
9. Who on earth are you?
- Product Manager at Twitch
- Manage Twitch Chat, as well as Badges and
Emotes, APIs, Third Party Developers and
much, much more!
- Not a giraffe
10. What are we doing here?
- What are transferable skills? How do I market them?
- Perils of passion and personal experience in product management
- Unique challenges of communications products on a massive scale. Next
time!
18. Product Manager Key Skills
- Ability to express your ideas to others, and persuade them they’re good
- “The gift of storytelling and evangelism”
- Empathy
- Drive effective collaboration
- Organization, Prioritization, Process
- Strategic thinking
- Analysis, Learning and Insight
- Technical knowledge
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19. Talking about your Transferable Skills in Interviews
- How does something you learned translate to the question?
- Talk about the people involved and your interactions with them
- Talk about the problems you faced, and how you solved them
- Be clear about what you learned, more than what you did
20. Talking about your Transferable Skills in Interviews
- Don’t be afraid to provide backstory, but frame it in these terms
- People
- Problems
- Learnings
- How does your experience map?
21. Talking about your Transferable Skills at Work
- Keep it relevant
- Talk about how your experience relates to the current situation
- Establish your expertise in the relevant space with facts and data
- Keep it in the same framing
- People
- Problems
- Learnings
26. Problems of Passion and Personal Experience
- You are just one user
- You are not representative of every user
- You are not likely to be representative of the majority of users
- Your friends aren’t either
- You probably know more about your products than the majority of your
users
- Some of your users know more about your products than you do
27. How to handle Passion and Product Management
- Talk to your users
- Not just your friends! Widen your circle!
- Gather more data
- Understand your biases
- “Thinking Fast and Slow”-- Daniel Kahneman
28. Understanding your biases
- A small group is not necessarily representative of everyone
- “Me and my WoW Guild…”
- Correlation is not Causality
- “Users chat more when we add more global emotes”
- Narrative Fallacy and Hindsight Bias
- “I knew that users would chat less when we turned on chat history”
- Confirmation Bias
- Embrace contradictions that disrupt your story
30. Why can’t I hold all this data?
Quantitative First Qualitative First
Starting with numbers that suggest
behaviour
Starting with user statements about what
they do
See if statements support numbers See if numbers support statements
There is no right answer
31. Problems of Passion and Personal Experience
- You are not your users
- How do we fight against our biases
- Learn what they are
- Acknowledge our positions
- Seek alternate perspectives
- Actively challenge your preconceived ideas
- Listen to other users!
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33. Key Takeaways
- Frame your past experience in terms of
- People
- Problems
- Learnings
- Manage your passion by understanding your biases
34. Part-time Product Management Courses in
San Francisco, Silicon Valley, Los Angeles, Santa Monica, Orange
County, New York, Austin, Boston, Seattle, Chicago, Denver,
London, Toronto
www.productschool.com
Editor's Notes
understand web analytics, learn SQL, and machine learning concepts
How long have I been at twitch
Blast Radius
Recent reduction in scope and responsibilities
What exactly is twitch chat? Who in the room is familiar, who is not, putting the shared in shared real time experiences. What are shared real time experiences
Where I’m from
Answer that question in something of a roundabout way
Thinking about path to product management
UNSCIENTIFIC SCIENCE
Vast majority of PMs started in other roles
Many PMs studied something else at school, then went straight into being PMs
A few people wanted to troll me
ONLY 8% STUDIED PRODUCT MANAGEMENT, SO WHERE DID THEY LEARN THE SKILLS REQUIRED TO BE A PM????
Let’s talk about my path to PM
Started off well, Oxford
Didn’t work out
Wanted to go to oxford, got there, didn’t have goals any more
Didn’t know what I wanted to do next
Left
Airshows, seasonal, temp work
Who’s seen the big short?
Explain story
CLICK BUILDINGS
Zeil in Frankfurt, Chocolate factory in Helsinki, Waterside apartments, IBM Headquarters
CLICK FINANCIAL CRISIS
Why did i leave? Ethics
CLICK BRUNEL - went back to study for masters
While I was studying I applied for a WoW PvP writer role at engadget
CLICK
That turned into making videos, starting with what (at the time) was a really popular World of Warcraft show
CLICK
A lot of videos - this and blogging were my primary sources of income -- hosted stages at BlizzCon, did gaming news
CLICK
I was even on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon
CLICK - and a host of other temp jobs - complaints department at a fruit and nut plant, finance for the UK’s largest male stripper troupe
AT EVERY JOB I LEARNED SOMETHING
CLICK
ZAM - what did I do there - how did i get my start in Product management
CLICK
Blizzard - what did I do there
CLICK
Twitch - what do I do there
OK cool story bro, but you still haven’t answered my question - CLICK
Ask the audience what the key skills of product management are
Where did I learn those key skills?
Express yourself to others - making videos
Empathy - dealing with tenants in buildings on their worst days - something broken, something ruined.
Drive effective collaboration - working with others throughout my career - importance of networking as a content creator
Organization - running a 3 billion euro property portfolio
Strategic Thinking - buildings are around for decades, have to think long term
Analysis, Learning, Insight - Working in financial services and reporting to shareholders forces this, later understanding successful content types on blog and youtube
Technical Knowledge - my own knowledge of youtube, building websites… trust others, LEARN…. just enough to be dangerous
Tempting to tell a story where you come out looking good - focus instead on failures and learnings
Story about deleting user accounts with identity merge
Talk about collaboration with people - how did you help, how did you move forward past disagreements and obstacles
Story about what to do with JTV usernames - brought people together and helped them figure it out
People: What were the different disciplines involved?? If they’re not the same as in a PM role, how do they map? E.g. engineers are engineers, architects are designers
Problems: what were the problems you faced, and how do they map to similar PM issues? How is reinforcing a mountain like an identity system merge?
Learnings: what did you learn from the experience AND HOW IS IT APPLICABLE TO PM WORK??
Don’t Name Drop - “When I was at blizzard talking to mike morhaime one day…” - people are rarely impressed unless it’s very relevant to the situation - why is it important that it was mike morhaime? NOT JUST TO MAKE YOU LOOK COOL
Keep it relevant - don’t add fluff or details or anecdotes unless they add relevance
Relate it to the current situation - this is a good way to keep it relevant. Consistently draw parallels.
Establish your expertise in the space - respect is earned. Talk deeply about facts, data, outcomes, be willing to dive into detail
People, Problems, Learnings
Picking up the RIGHT dna pieces along the way - ones that are relevant, ones that are positive, ones that came from learning.
Questions?!
We’re going to flip it on its head - why is it BAD to have a ton of relevant experience?
Hands up Who in this room is passionate about something? Games? Fitness? Tech?
Keep your hands up if you want to work in the space you’re passionate about
Well, then you’re all going to need this
IF you remember an earlier slide, I had a lot of personal experience when i started at twitch
Bad thing and a good thing.
We’ve talked about why it’s a good thing
Now let’s talk about why it’s a bad thing
Famous story about a CEO at a large tech company who was so obsessed with bad ideas that devs made a version of the site just for him
At Twitch- User Research, reaching out to partners, personal connections BUT WIDEN YOUR CIRCLE - biases of “users like you”
Talk about recent UXR, talking to users like me and users unlike me (troll user)
Understanding your biases - knowing what they are
WHO HAS READ THIS BOOK? GOOD JOB THOSE PEOPLE, EVERYONE ELSE, READ THIS BOOK
Narrative Fallacy: people invent a story around past events. Hindsight Bias: people use that story to underestimate the extent to which they were surprised.
TALK ABOUT LEADING QUESTIONS IN USER RESEARCH
DON’T ASK PEOPLE IF THEY WANT A THING
Differences between quantitative and qualitative data
Both are important
Story about zynga and over-reliance on quantitative data - measuring revenue over retention
What are the pros and cons of each approach?
Recap before questions
Questions?
We’re going to flip it on its head - why is it BAD to have a ton of relevant experience?
Hands up Who in this room is passionate about something? Games? Fitness? Tech?
Keep your hands up if you want to work in the space you’re passionate about
Well, then you’re all going to need this