A presentation for Perspective 5: How has COVID-19 impacted how we teach and learn architecture, in the series Conversations on post-COVID-19 Perspectives for Architecture in South Africa. In this presentation Jolanda Morkel reflects on her experiences in learning, teaching, research, studio facilitation, and learning design, to share her recent observations, discoveries, and some lingering questions. She relates the post-COVID-19 conditions in South Africa to global and pre-pandemic realities to put it in perspective. Jolanda draws on the work of Professors Achille Mbembe, Ashraf Salama and Lesley Lokko to prompt reflection on society and the role of the University, the implications of emergency remote learning and teaching, in relation to the legacy model and its deficiencies, that were amplified by the Pandemic. She advocates for purposeful and student-centred learning design that will move beyond the binary, to consider the range of learning settings and experiences between the online and the onground, the synchronous and the asynchronous, and the formal and informal learning settings and dimensions. Such an approach will not be fixated on the tools, but consider the pedagogy. It will consider the content, methodologies, role models and languages that students can relate to. Jolanda cautions against the practical and ethical complexities associated with the use of technology for learning and teaching, including data analytics, surveillance, staff workloads, university infrastructure and support, digital literacies of staff and students, suggesting that these should consciously be addressed through learning experience design. The presentation concludes with the challenge to be open enough to recognise the opportunities that the pandemic revealed and to be brave enough to take these on.