Prof. Xavier MONNET
Medical Intensive Care Unit
Paris-Sud University Hospitals
xavier.monnet@bct.aphp.fr
Assessment
of fluid overload
Links of interest
Pulsion Medical Systems
Cheetah
Masimo
How do we assess fluid overload ?
Intra-abdominal pressure
Weight gain
Extravascular lung water
CVP
(negative) indices of fluid responsiveness
Fluid balance
Clearly associated with prognosis
How do we assess fluid overload ? Fluid balance
Cohort study
1,177 pts with sepsis
Fluid balance associated
with mortality during sepsis
How do we assess fluid overload ? Fluid balance
173 patients with
sepsis
Survivors had a
lower fluid balance
How do we assess fluid overload ? Fluid balance
173 patients with
sepsis
Multivariate analysis
Positive fluid balance:
OR=1.014 [1.008–1.021] per ml/kg increase
p <0.001
Fluid balance associated
with mortality during sepsis
How do we assess fluid overload ? Fluid balance
p value
EVLWImax (1 unit = 1 mL/kg) 1.07 (1.02 - 1.12) 0.007
Maximum blood lactate (1 unit = 1 mmol/L) 1.29 (1.14 - 1.46) 0.0001
Minimum PaO2/FiO2 (1 unit = 1 mmHg) 0.98 (0.97 - 0.99) 0.006
Mean PEEP (1 unit = 1 cmH2O) 0.78 (0.67 - 0.91) 0.002
SAPS II (1 unit = 1 point) 1.03 (1.01 - 1.05) 0.02
Mean cumulative fluid balance (1 unit = 1 mL) 1.0004 ( 1.0001 - 1.0008) 0.02
Odds Ratio ( CI 95%)
200 pts with ARDS
Fluid balance associated
with mortality during ARDS
How do we assess fluid overload ? Fluid balance
How do we assess fluid overload ?
Intra-abdominal pressure
Extravascular lung water
CVP
(negative) indices of fluid responsiveness
Weight gainWeight gainClearly associated with prognosis
Rather easy to measure
Not specific of any organ
Fluid balance
60 pts after cardiac
surgery or in the ED
SDF measurements
How do we assess fluid overload ? Fluid balance
No correlation between FB
and sublingual oedema
How do we assess fluid overload ?
Intra-abdominal pressure
Extravascular lung water
CVP
(negative) indices of fluid responsiveness
Weight gainClearly associated with prognosis
Rather easy to measure
Not specific of any organ
Fluid balance
Easier to measure than fluid balance
Nevertheless…
Weight gain
… imperfect
correlation
How do we assess fluid overload ?
Fluid balance
Extravascular lung water
CVP
(negative) indices of fluid responsiveness
Weight gain
Clearly associated with prognosis
Intra-abdominal pressure
How do we assess fluid overload ? Intra-abdominal pressure
285 ICU patients in Canada
Meta-analysis
14 studies 2 500 patients
How do we assess fluid overload ? Intra-abdominal pressure
How do we assess fluid overload ?
Fluid balance
Extravascular lung water
CVP
(negative) indices of fluid responsiveness
Weight gain
Clearly associated with prognosis
Accessible to specific treatments
Intra-abdominal pressure
Central venous catheter
Femoral arterial catheter
How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
Cold bolus
ln Ts
t
Td
inj
Blood temperature
(Ts)
inj
Ttm
Thermodilution
curve
Logarithmic
transformation
Extravascular lung water
Indexed for ideal body weight
The volume of
lung oedema
How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
4 arguments
3
1
2
4
Is the estimation of
lung water reliable?
?
Validated in
humans
Lung water
estimated by
PiCCO
Lung water
measured by
the gold standard
30 pts
EVLW measured by TPTD and by
postmortem gravimetry
How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
Independently
predicts
mortality
Validated in
humans
How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
p value
EVLWImax (1 unit = 1 mL/kg) 1.07 (1.02 - 1.12) 0.007
Maximum blood lactate (1 unit = 1 mmol/L) 1.29 (1.14 - 1.46) 0.0001
Minimum PaO2/FiO2 (1 unit = 1 mmHg) 0.98 (0.97 - 0.99) 0.006
Mean PEEP (1 unit = 1 cmH2O) 0.78 (0.67 - 0.91) 0.002
SAPS II (1 unit = 1 point) 1.03 (1.01 - 1.05) 0.02
Mean cumulative fluid balance (1 unit = 1 mL) 1.0004 ( 1.0001 - 1.0008) 0.02
Odds Ratio ( CI 95%)
200 pts with ARDS
EVLW measured by
PiCCO device
Estimation of lung water by transpulmonary
thermodilution makes sense
→
Independently
predicts
mortality
How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
10
15
EVLWi
(mL/kg)
Before After 1h 2h 4h 6h
*
*
Bronchoalv.
lavage
28 BALs
EVLW measured by
PiCCO device
+ 130 [100-160] mL
… only!
Detects
small changes
How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
0
5
10
15
20
25EVLW (mL/kg)
*
Weaning-induced PE
Before SBT After SBT
ns
Before SBT After SBT
No weaning-induced PE
Lung water ↗ only in
patients with
weaning-induced POe
31 patients with a PA catheter
Weaning test on a T-piece
Independently
predicts
mortality
Validated in
humans
Detects
small changes
Detects
short term
changes
How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
How do we assess fluid overload ?
Fluid balance
CVP
(negative) indices of fluid responsiveness
Weight gain
Intra-abdominal pressure
Not easy to measure
Quantitative
Extravascular lung water
May guide fluid management
PAOP group
Time (hours)
Cumulative fluid balance (L)
7
3
1
5
-1
-3
-5
0 12 24 36 48 60 72
* *
*
*
* p < 0.0001 vs time 0
EVLW group
101 ARDS patients
EVLW-guided management vs.
PAOP-guided management
How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
0
5
10
15
20
25
Ventilation days ICU days
PAOP
EVLW
*
*
101 ARDS patients
EVLW-guided management vs.
PAOP-guided management
PAOP
EVLW
Monitoring lung water
↘ the duration
of ventilation
↘ the length
of ICU stay
How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
How do we assess fluid overload ?
Intra-abdominal pressure
Fluid balance
Weight gain
CVP
(negative) indices of fluid responsiveness
Not easy to measure
Quantitative
May guide fluid management
Extravascular lung water
Lung water high
permeability
low
permeability
very high
permeability
PcapFluid
A given value of PAOP/CVP does
not indicate lung water worsening
PAOP
CVP
How do we assess fluid overload ? Central venous pressure
How do we assess fluid overload ?
Intra-abdominal pressure
Fluid balance
Weight gain
(negative) indices of fluid responsiveness
Not easy to measure
Not a direct marker of the
pulmonary risk
Extravascular lung water
CVP
Nevertheless…
ΔP
MAP
CVP
How do we assess fluid overload ? Central venous pressure
137 septic shock patients
Association between AKI
and haemodynamic variables
How do we assess fluid overload ? Central venous pressure
584 cardiac surgical patients
Mean renal perfusion
pressure: 55 mmHg
Mean renal perfusion
pressure: 65 mmHg
How do we assess fluid overload ? Central venous pressure
How do we assess fluid overload ?
Extravascular lung water
Intra-abdominal pressure
Fluid balance
Weight gain
(negative) indices of fluid responsiveness
Not easy to measure
Not a direct marker of the
pulmonary risk
Safety variable for organ
perfsuion
CVP
(negative) indices of fluid responsiveness
Preload responsiveness is a
normal, physiological condition !
Resuscitation
Stabilisation
Avoid excessive fluid
administration !
>
No fluid without fluid
responsiveness !
How do we reduce
fluid overload ?
?
How do we manage fluid therapy ?
1
De-resuscitation
0
Fluid balance
Remove fluid
3
Avoid fluid if the
risk is too high!
Not too much fluid if high FB,
weight gain, lung water, IAP, CVP
2
How much fluid
to remove ?
?
Ultrafiltration
H1 H2 H3 Hn…PLR
39 medical ICU patients
Resolution phase of shock
PLR to guide fluid removal
How much fluid to remove ?
Does the PLR test before predict
hypotension during fluid removal ?
?
AUC = 0.89 (0.75 – 0.97)
0 20 40 60 80 100
0
20
40
60
80
100
100-Specificity
Sensitivity
PLR-induced
changes in CI
PLR-induced
changes in PP
>13%
>9%
>7% >5%
>4% >-2%
>-3%
>14%
Prediction of intradialytic
hypotension
↗ in cardiac index
during PLR ≥ 9%
Se = 77%
Sp = 96%
39 patients at the resolution phase of
shock
Haemodialysis with ultrafiltration
How much fluid to remove ?
How do we assess fluid overload ?
Intra-abdominal pressure
Fluid balance
Weight gain
Not easy to measure
Extravascular lung water
CVP
May help guide fluid removal
(negative) indices of fluid responsiveness
Prof. Xavier MONNET
Medical Intensive Care Unit
Paris-Sud University Hospitals
xavier.monnet@bct.aphp.fr
Assessment
of fluid overload

Assessment of fluid overload

  • 1.
    Prof. Xavier MONNET MedicalIntensive Care Unit Paris-Sud University Hospitals xavier.monnet@bct.aphp.fr Assessment of fluid overload
  • 2.
    Links of interest PulsionMedical Systems Cheetah Masimo
  • 3.
    How do weassess fluid overload ? Intra-abdominal pressure Weight gain Extravascular lung water CVP (negative) indices of fluid responsiveness Fluid balance Clearly associated with prognosis
  • 4.
    How do weassess fluid overload ? Fluid balance
  • 5.
    Cohort study 1,177 ptswith sepsis Fluid balance associated with mortality during sepsis How do we assess fluid overload ? Fluid balance
  • 6.
    173 patients with sepsis Survivorshad a lower fluid balance How do we assess fluid overload ? Fluid balance
  • 7.
    173 patients with sepsis Multivariateanalysis Positive fluid balance: OR=1.014 [1.008–1.021] per ml/kg increase p <0.001 Fluid balance associated with mortality during sepsis How do we assess fluid overload ? Fluid balance
  • 8.
    p value EVLWImax (1unit = 1 mL/kg) 1.07 (1.02 - 1.12) 0.007 Maximum blood lactate (1 unit = 1 mmol/L) 1.29 (1.14 - 1.46) 0.0001 Minimum PaO2/FiO2 (1 unit = 1 mmHg) 0.98 (0.97 - 0.99) 0.006 Mean PEEP (1 unit = 1 cmH2O) 0.78 (0.67 - 0.91) 0.002 SAPS II (1 unit = 1 point) 1.03 (1.01 - 1.05) 0.02 Mean cumulative fluid balance (1 unit = 1 mL) 1.0004 ( 1.0001 - 1.0008) 0.02 Odds Ratio ( CI 95%) 200 pts with ARDS Fluid balance associated with mortality during ARDS How do we assess fluid overload ? Fluid balance
  • 9.
    How do weassess fluid overload ? Intra-abdominal pressure Extravascular lung water CVP (negative) indices of fluid responsiveness Weight gainWeight gainClearly associated with prognosis Rather easy to measure Not specific of any organ Fluid balance
  • 10.
    60 pts aftercardiac surgery or in the ED SDF measurements How do we assess fluid overload ? Fluid balance No correlation between FB and sublingual oedema
  • 11.
    How do weassess fluid overload ? Intra-abdominal pressure Extravascular lung water CVP (negative) indices of fluid responsiveness Weight gainClearly associated with prognosis Rather easy to measure Not specific of any organ Fluid balance Easier to measure than fluid balance Nevertheless… Weight gain … imperfect correlation
  • 12.
    How do weassess fluid overload ? Fluid balance Extravascular lung water CVP (negative) indices of fluid responsiveness Weight gain Clearly associated with prognosis Intra-abdominal pressure
  • 13.
    How do weassess fluid overload ? Intra-abdominal pressure 285 ICU patients in Canada
  • 14.
    Meta-analysis 14 studies 2500 patients How do we assess fluid overload ? Intra-abdominal pressure
  • 15.
    How do weassess fluid overload ? Fluid balance Extravascular lung water CVP (negative) indices of fluid responsiveness Weight gain Clearly associated with prognosis Accessible to specific treatments Intra-abdominal pressure
  • 16.
    Central venous catheter Femoralarterial catheter How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
  • 17.
    Cold bolus ln Ts t Td inj Bloodtemperature (Ts) inj Ttm Thermodilution curve Logarithmic transformation Extravascular lung water Indexed for ideal body weight The volume of lung oedema How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water 4 arguments 3 1 2 4 Is the estimation of lung water reliable? ?
  • 18.
    Validated in humans Lung water estimatedby PiCCO Lung water measured by the gold standard 30 pts EVLW measured by TPTD and by postmortem gravimetry How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
  • 19.
  • 20.
    p value EVLWImax (1unit = 1 mL/kg) 1.07 (1.02 - 1.12) 0.007 Maximum blood lactate (1 unit = 1 mmol/L) 1.29 (1.14 - 1.46) 0.0001 Minimum PaO2/FiO2 (1 unit = 1 mmHg) 0.98 (0.97 - 0.99) 0.006 Mean PEEP (1 unit = 1 cmH2O) 0.78 (0.67 - 0.91) 0.002 SAPS II (1 unit = 1 point) 1.03 (1.01 - 1.05) 0.02 Mean cumulative fluid balance (1 unit = 1 mL) 1.0004 ( 1.0001 - 1.0008) 0.02 Odds Ratio ( CI 95%) 200 pts with ARDS EVLW measured by PiCCO device Estimation of lung water by transpulmonary thermodilution makes sense → Independently predicts mortality How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
  • 21.
    10 15 EVLWi (mL/kg) Before After 1h2h 4h 6h * * Bronchoalv. lavage 28 BALs EVLW measured by PiCCO device + 130 [100-160] mL … only! Detects small changes How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
  • 22.
    0 5 10 15 20 25EVLW (mL/kg) * Weaning-induced PE BeforeSBT After SBT ns Before SBT After SBT No weaning-induced PE Lung water ↗ only in patients with weaning-induced POe 31 patients with a PA catheter Weaning test on a T-piece Independently predicts mortality Validated in humans Detects small changes Detects short term changes How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
  • 23.
    How do weassess fluid overload ? Fluid balance CVP (negative) indices of fluid responsiveness Weight gain Intra-abdominal pressure Not easy to measure Quantitative Extravascular lung water May guide fluid management
  • 24.
    PAOP group Time (hours) Cumulativefluid balance (L) 7 3 1 5 -1 -3 -5 0 12 24 36 48 60 72 * * * * * p < 0.0001 vs time 0 EVLW group 101 ARDS patients EVLW-guided management vs. PAOP-guided management How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
  • 25.
    0 5 10 15 20 25 Ventilation days ICUdays PAOP EVLW * * 101 ARDS patients EVLW-guided management vs. PAOP-guided management PAOP EVLW Monitoring lung water ↘ the duration of ventilation ↘ the length of ICU stay How do we assess fluid overload ? Lung water
  • 26.
    How do weassess fluid overload ? Intra-abdominal pressure Fluid balance Weight gain CVP (negative) indices of fluid responsiveness Not easy to measure Quantitative May guide fluid management Extravascular lung water
  • 27.
    Lung water high permeability low permeability veryhigh permeability PcapFluid A given value of PAOP/CVP does not indicate lung water worsening PAOP CVP How do we assess fluid overload ? Central venous pressure
  • 28.
    How do weassess fluid overload ? Intra-abdominal pressure Fluid balance Weight gain (negative) indices of fluid responsiveness Not easy to measure Not a direct marker of the pulmonary risk Extravascular lung water CVP Nevertheless…
  • 29.
    ΔP MAP CVP How do weassess fluid overload ? Central venous pressure
  • 30.
    137 septic shockpatients Association between AKI and haemodynamic variables How do we assess fluid overload ? Central venous pressure
  • 31.
    584 cardiac surgicalpatients Mean renal perfusion pressure: 55 mmHg Mean renal perfusion pressure: 65 mmHg How do we assess fluid overload ? Central venous pressure
  • 32.
    How do weassess fluid overload ? Extravascular lung water Intra-abdominal pressure Fluid balance Weight gain (negative) indices of fluid responsiveness Not easy to measure Not a direct marker of the pulmonary risk Safety variable for organ perfsuion CVP (negative) indices of fluid responsiveness Preload responsiveness is a normal, physiological condition !
  • 33.
    Resuscitation Stabilisation Avoid excessive fluid administration! > No fluid without fluid responsiveness ! How do we reduce fluid overload ? ? How do we manage fluid therapy ? 1 De-resuscitation 0 Fluid balance Remove fluid 3 Avoid fluid if the risk is too high! Not too much fluid if high FB, weight gain, lung water, IAP, CVP 2 How much fluid to remove ? ?
  • 34.
    Ultrafiltration H1 H2 H3Hn…PLR 39 medical ICU patients Resolution phase of shock PLR to guide fluid removal How much fluid to remove ? Does the PLR test before predict hypotension during fluid removal ? ?
  • 35.
    AUC = 0.89(0.75 – 0.97) 0 20 40 60 80 100 0 20 40 60 80 100 100-Specificity Sensitivity PLR-induced changes in CI PLR-induced changes in PP >13% >9% >7% >5% >4% >-2% >-3% >14% Prediction of intradialytic hypotension ↗ in cardiac index during PLR ≥ 9% Se = 77% Sp = 96% 39 patients at the resolution phase of shock Haemodialysis with ultrafiltration How much fluid to remove ?
  • 36.
    How do weassess fluid overload ? Intra-abdominal pressure Fluid balance Weight gain Not easy to measure Extravascular lung water CVP May help guide fluid removal (negative) indices of fluid responsiveness
  • 37.
    Prof. Xavier MONNET MedicalIntensive Care Unit Paris-Sud University Hospitals xavier.monnet@bct.aphp.fr Assessment of fluid overload