Jeroen van der Veer, former CEO of Shell, discusses the energy transition's opportunities for oil and gas companies to shift away from fossil fuels, emphasizing the necessity of a stable CO2 price to attract investment in low-carbon technologies. He advocates for a central European bank for CO2 allowances to stabilize prices, which he believes will encourage investment in renewable energy infrastructure. Van der Veer outlines his vision for the future energy landscape, highlighting energy savings, natural gas as a transition fuel, and the need for cheaper renewable technologies.