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What 6 Years of Mistakes Gets You...
▪ Why We Test & Getting Buy In
▪ A/B Testing vs CRO
▪ The 4 Areas of Testing
▪ Tip and Tricks
Agenda
#MeasureFest #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
Why Do We Test…
There is always
room for
improvement…. If
you’ve enough
traffic to run tests.
There is no
reward, if you take
no risk. Always
test.
Pros
–Increased
Performance
–Customer
Insights
–Rotate Offers
Cons
–Risk Of
Doing Worse
–Not Enough
Traffic
Getting Buy In...
▪ Play Into Their Hand
– No Time
– We Are A Startup
– Need To Be Right / Ego
– You Are Wrong
Getting Your Buy In
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
A/B Testing
Vs CRO
▪ A/B Testing
– Testing To Better CR
– Goal: Increase CR
▪ CRO
– Better Customer
Experience
• Customer Insights
– By Product:
Increased CR
– Higher LTV or AOV
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
4 Areas Of Testing
Keywords
Advertising
Ad Copy Testing
Ad Copy Testing
Old Ad
Conversion Rate
2.71%
New Ad
Conversion Rate
1.23%
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
Landing Pages
Adding Friction is not
always a bad thing…
..let me tell you why?
Story #1
#TestingInsights
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
Problem
Lead Quality Was Awful
All the leads in the world won’t save you, if
no one converts into a paying customer.
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
Talk To People?
▪ Do A Review
– TrustPilot, G2Crowds… ect
– Talk to SDR & Cofounders
– Audit GA, AdWords, LPs
Vague LP that tells me nothing. A
market so crowded, how does
anyone make any money?
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
▪ Add Friction
– Pricing Grid
– Short Submission Form
– Exit Popup
– Phone To Book App.
– Long Submission Form
– Double Opt In
– Intro VideoWhat To Add?
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
▪ Add Friction
– Pricing Grid
– Short Submission Form
Why These Two?
– Set Pricing Expectations
– Knowing What You Want
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
▪ Results
– 4 $25,000 Deals
– $150,000 SQL in 60 Days
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
Site
Tech Debt Is Slowing
Down Your Marketing
Team.
Story #2
#TestingInsights
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
▪ Current Process
– Local Pages
– SEO Heavy
– Manual Tasks
2 months….not working.
Wasting company time.
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
▪ What’s Our POV
– Time #LivingYourBestLife
– No Discounts
– Customer Success
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
▪ What’s Our POV
– Time #LivingYourBestLife
– No Discounts
– Customer Success
▪ Fixing Homepage and Funnel
– Scaled £50K to £10MM
– 20% MoM Growth
– Lowered CPA by 27% to £21
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
Don’t Be Right. Move
The Business In The
Right Direction.
Story #3
#TestingInsights
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
Old Design
New Design
Design Does
Not Matter
Old Design
New Design
Conversion Rate
3.3 % VS 2.1%
Don’t Be Right. Move
The Business In The
Right Direction.
Story #3
#TestingInsights
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
Tips & Tricks
▪ What Do We Use It For?
– Finding Bugs
– Surveys
– Heatmaps
– Recording
The one tool we use to find out
about our customers.
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
Humans
▪ Walking The Lonely Road
– Always Talk To Customers
– Be Data Informed
– No HIPPOs/Arrogant People
– Always Be Testing
– Opinions/Bias Can Kill
– Don’t Test To Much
– Have Fun!
Will You Risk It All?
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
Homework
Netflix:
https://channels.theinnovationenterpri
se.com/presentations/quasi-
experimentation-at-netflix-beyond-a-
b-testing
www.slideshare.net/xamat/netflix-
recommendations-beyond-the-5-stars
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
The End.
Thank you.
About Me
● Lived 5 Cities. 3 Continents
● Traveled 40 Countries
● Huge Gaming & Tech Nerd
● Brands: ASOS, Ogilvy, Unbounce, Jack Will,
Yarnspiration, ChildLine and Grant Thornton
#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
@DuaneBrown

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What everyone should learn from my 6 years of mistakes with CRO by Duane Brown

  • 1. CRO Lessons What 6 Years of Mistakes Gets You...
  • 2. ▪ Why We Test & Getting Buy In ▪ A/B Testing vs CRO ▪ The 4 Areas of Testing ▪ Tip and Tricks Agenda #MeasureFest #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown#DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 3. Why Do We Test…
  • 4. There is always room for improvement…. If you’ve enough traffic to run tests. There is no reward, if you take no risk. Always test. Pros –Increased Performance –Customer Insights –Rotate Offers Cons –Risk Of Doing Worse –Not Enough Traffic
  • 6. ▪ Play Into Their Hand – No Time – We Are A Startup – Need To Be Right / Ego – You Are Wrong Getting Your Buy In #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 8. ▪ A/B Testing – Testing To Better CR – Goal: Increase CR ▪ CRO – Better Customer Experience • Customer Insights – By Product: Increased CR – Higher LTV or AOV #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 9. 4 Areas Of Testing
  • 11.
  • 14. Ad Copy Testing Old Ad Conversion Rate 2.71% New Ad Conversion Rate 1.23% #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 16. Adding Friction is not always a bad thing… ..let me tell you why? Story #1 #TestingInsights #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 17. Problem Lead Quality Was Awful All the leads in the world won’t save you, if no one converts into a paying customer. #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 18. Talk To People? ▪ Do A Review – TrustPilot, G2Crowds… ect – Talk to SDR & Cofounders – Audit GA, AdWords, LPs Vague LP that tells me nothing. A market so crowded, how does anyone make any money? #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 19. ▪ Add Friction – Pricing Grid – Short Submission Form – Exit Popup – Phone To Book App. – Long Submission Form – Double Opt In – Intro VideoWhat To Add? #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 20. ▪ Add Friction – Pricing Grid – Short Submission Form Why These Two? – Set Pricing Expectations – Knowing What You Want #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 21. ▪ Results – 4 $25,000 Deals – $150,000 SQL in 60 Days #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 22. Site
  • 23. Tech Debt Is Slowing Down Your Marketing Team. Story #2 #TestingInsights #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 24. ▪ Current Process – Local Pages – SEO Heavy – Manual Tasks 2 months….not working. Wasting company time. #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 25.
  • 26. ▪ What’s Our POV – Time #LivingYourBestLife – No Discounts – Customer Success #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 27. ▪ What’s Our POV – Time #LivingYourBestLife – No Discounts – Customer Success ▪ Fixing Homepage and Funnel – Scaled £50K to £10MM – 20% MoM Growth – Lowered CPA by 27% to £21 #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 28. Don’t Be Right. Move The Business In The Right Direction. Story #3 #TestingInsights #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 29. Old Design New Design Design Does Not Matter
  • 30. Old Design New Design Conversion Rate 3.3 % VS 2.1%
  • 31. Don’t Be Right. Move The Business In The Right Direction. Story #3 #TestingInsights #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 33. ▪ What Do We Use It For? – Finding Bugs – Surveys – Heatmaps – Recording The one tool we use to find out about our customers. #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 35. ▪ Walking The Lonely Road – Always Talk To Customers – Be Data Informed – No HIPPOs/Arrogant People – Always Be Testing – Opinions/Bias Can Kill – Don’t Test To Much – Have Fun! Will You Risk It All? #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown
  • 37. The End. Thank you. About Me ● Lived 5 Cities. 3 Continents ● Traveled 40 Countries ● Huge Gaming & Tech Nerd ● Brands: ASOS, Ogilvy, Unbounce, Jack Will, Yarnspiration, ChildLine and Grant Thornton #DMSSO #AlwaysBeTesting @DuaneBrown @DuaneBrown