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The Case for Prince Madoc  and King Arthur in America By Lee Pennington  President of Ancient Kentucke Historical Association Copyright© 2010
History in Bondage
In Wales for first hand look, to seek Arthur
Who are the Welsh? Where did they come from?
“ Welsh” stems from the old High German Word “wallische” meaning “strangers.”
They are the Khumry, meaning “Kinsman.” ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
First migration from  Chaldean Syria around 1500  with leader Albyne
Second migration from Troy around 500 BC lead by Brutus
Google Map
Brutus Stone at Totnes, Davon, Southeast England
Ancient Brutus Coin
With this background in mind, now let’s  take a closer look at the Prince Madoc stories—the most popular and widely known one of the 12 th  Century and the lesser known one of the 6 th  Century
Two Prince Madoc Stories ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Madoc ap Owen sailed from North Wales
Map of Wales
Britain map
The origins of the 1170 Story
Haklyute’s Source
Over 200 books and articles have been written about Prince Madoc
Charles Boland
Bowen Book
Richard Deacon, 1966
Reuben Durrett
Durrett’s Book, 1908
Durrett’s Content Page
James Thom
Dana Olson
All these books focus totally on the 1170 Madoc. Several, however, reference the 6 th  century sailing but expel the idea out of hand. Richard Deacon, for example, in his book points out that
Deacon Note on Arthur
Two kings named Arthur
Famous Brothers
The 6 th  Century Story
Madoc is at sea
Comet strike
Dr. Victor Clube
Madoc returns
Gather at Milford Haven
Arthur is killed in Annwn Menifee County, Kentucky
Brought up Eweny River
Placed in Cave at Ogmore
Arthur’s Cave Burial
Hill Where Arthur is buried
Hill and St. Peter’s Church
Arthur’s burial mound
Boat Shaped mound
St. Peter’s Church Excavated 1990
Evidence for Arthur found  at St. Peters Church
St. Peter’s Church
Arthur’s Camelot
Edward I destroyed Welsh records
Although not always easy to find, records are available that show an unbroken  line of kings from Brutus to about 1300 AD
Wilson/Blackett books
Translations incredibly bad ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Song of the Graves ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
The grave of Arthur; turbines
Evidence for 6 th  Century Contact ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
THE ALPHABET
Coelbren Alphabet
Coelbren School Chart
Coelbren in manuscript
Coelbren on stone in Wales
Bat Creek Inscription
Grave Creek Inscription
Lee at Los Lunas Stone
Los Lunas letters up close
Brandenburg Stone “ Towards strength (to promote unity) divide the land we are spread over purely (justly) between offspring in wisdom.”  Alan Wilson Translation
The Awen
The Awen Sign and its use
The Awen in Wales Holy Head, Wales
Awen in America
IDENTICAL ARTIFACTS ON  BOTH  CONTINENTS
“ Chunky Stone” at UK
Awen on Troy Whorls
Cross on bear tooth, Circle Cross
Chevrons in America
Circle cross on shell, chevrons
Button Found at Stonehenge
Circle cross, Stonehenge button ,[object Object],Found Hardin Bottoms, South Shore, Greenup County, KY
Mandan in round skin boats, Catlin
Mandan Bull Boat
Welsh Coracles Mandan Bull Boat
Roman Coins
Buddy Lemon Sword
Map of Roman Finds in America ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Roman Sword Finds Swords found: TN, KY,OH,  MO, MN
PA Sword
WRITTEN RECORDS GLASS AND STONE
Lee and Alan: Conclusion
Roman Caerleon
Arthur’s Caerleon
Looking down toward Malpas
Arthur evidence in stone ,[object Object],Grandfather’s (Tewdrig) Stone Father’s (Meurig) Stone
Arthur’s brother Paul’s Stone
Ogmore Castle
Ogmore land grant stone
Meurig established Llandaff
Meurig tomb at Llandaff
Bishop tomb away from altar
Meurig tomb close
Arthur in stainglass glass at Llandaff
WELSH  SPEAKING  INDIANS
Hundreds of reports of   Welsh  Speaking Indians at contact.  Some reports tell of whole tribes of white Indians who spoke Welsh.
Mandan village
PETER MARTYR d’ANGIHER ,[object Object],[object Object]
The Case of  Maruice Griffith ,[object Object],[object Object]
THE GRIFFITH STORY
Strange Stone Works in America
Established series of forts Welsh Caves, Ft. Payne, AL Ft. Mountain, GA Indian Fort, Berea, KY Old Stone Fort, Manchester, TN
Devil’s Backbone, Charlestown, IN
Falls of Ohio Map
Tree and couple at falls
Falls of Ohio
Thomas Hind Statement Lee Pennington:
Stone Lined Graves Tennes see Wales Kentucky
 
DNA, Carbon Dating
Robert Pyle ,[object Object]
Cook County Petroglyphs
Cook County Site
Skull found here
Ancient American
Smoking Gun
Stoke Dry Church
Full Mural at Stoke Dry
Focus Indians Stoke Dry
Stoke Dry means “Evil Blow”

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The Case For Prince Madoc And King Arthur In America Revision 8 23 10

Editor's Notes

  1. Griffith is taken prisoner by Shawanese near head of Roanoke River in VA. After 2 ½ years, a group of 5 Indians want to explore the sources of the Missouri River. Griffith talks them into letting him go along. The six have good rifles, six pounds of powder, six pound of lead each. When they reached the confluence of Missouri and Mississippi, the see the Missouri is very muddy, the Mississippi very clear. They travel up Missouri for 30 days (450 miles if 15 a day) to a Prairie. Some prairies are eight to ten miles across. On one they travel 3 days before getting across, and see no animals or birds and though there was an abundance of sald springs, there was not fresh water. In one area the salt springs had dried and they gathered salt (said they could have gotten bushels). The killed strange animal (9 to 10 feet high; they had seen two before; they were swift footed with neither tusks or horns (Bison? Female Moose?). After traveling considerable time through prairies, they came upon VERY EXTENSIVE LEAD MINE. They melted ore and got what lead they wanted. Then afterwards, they came upon TWO COPPER MINES, one which was three miles through, and in several places they came upon copper ore BIG AS HOUSES. About 15 miles beyond 2 copper mine, they came in sight of WHITE MOUNTAINS which they, in spite of heat, thought covered with snow. Instead of snow, they found it was WHITE SAND. After getting through the mountains, they found very fertile track of land, and they met THREE WHITE MEN IN INDIAN DRESS. Griffith understood their language, WELSH. The six took turns as spokes men and the others did not interfere. One of Shawanese was in charge. After proceeding with them four or five days, they came to A VILLAGE OF WHITE MEN. The whole nation was the same color. The men took the six through the village for about 15 miles when they came to council house. An assembly along with the king was held and the council lasted three days. Since the six were not thought to know the nations’ language, they were forced to listen. The council assumed the six were warriors or spies sent by another nation and they tried to decide with to do with them. Felling if they left them go, they’d go back t o their nation and bring others. They decided to put them to death. Griffiths felt it was time for him to speak. He addressed them in Welsh language. He told them the six were not sent by any nation, that they had no hostile intention, that they were merely curious of the source of the Missouri River, and they would gladly return to their own country satisfied with the discoveries they had made. The council and the five Indians were astonished. Full confidence was given his declaration. They immediately abandoned the idea of putting them to death and extended their utmost friendship. The group stayed 8 months in the nation, but was deterred from exploring further. The nation informed them they had explored the river 12 months journey and found it still as wide as at the place they started. Of their history, Griffith could only discover their forefathers had come up the river from a great distance, they had no books, records, writings. They intermixed with no other people by marriage; there was not a dark skinned man in the nation. Their numbers were considerable. There was settlements on the river for 50 more miles and equally along three large watercourse that fell into the Missouri. He estimated 50,000 MEN IN THE NATION CAPABLE OF BEARING ARMS. When they left and returned to the Shawanese, they had been gone two and one half years (Griffith estimated they had traveled 15 miles per day. Griffith stayed with Indians only a few months when he was able to return to VA.
  2. William Webb Welsh Quotation
  3. Robert Pyle
  4. Wyoming County Petroglyph
  5. Cook Petroglyph, Ogam site
  6. Site of Pyle finding Jawbone
  7. Ancient American cover, Pyle
  8. Jim Michael’s quote on Pyle’s find
  9. Stoke Dry Church
  10. Stoke Dry Mural full
  11. Stoke Dry Mural close up