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Building a Cross-Channel Agency
Combining SEO and PPC Into a Lead Gen Machine
@johnleoweber
Department Goals
PPC
Drive conversions. Optimize landing
pages. Measure everything.
SEO
RANKINGS!
Web Design
Win some design awards.
In their ideal world
@johnleoweber
This Creates Problems.
PPC SEO Web Design
● Landing pages, not
websites
● Hoarding Data
● Weird pages
● Disregard for UX
● Slow websites
● Code bloat
● Bad for SEO
Criminal Lawyer Houston “The whole home page is
gonna be a video and there
won’t be any text at all…”
@johnleoweber
SEO
How Do We Measure Success?
RANKINGS
PPC
How Do We Measure Success?
Click Through Rate
Ad Position / Placements
Impressions
Landing Page
Conversion Rates
Conversions / Sales
$$$
@johnleoweber
SEOPPC
● Team of paid advertising specialists
● Measuring everything
● Making changes daily
● We put a keyword in the title!
● The intern wrote our metas!
● You can measure organic CTR?
@johnleoweber
We need to get all teams on the same page.
@johnleoweber
The Old Structure
PPC
PPC specialist 1
PPC specialist 2
PPC specialist 3
PPC specialist 4
SEO
SEO Specialist 1
SEO Specialist 2
SEO Specialist 3
SEO Specialist 4
Web Design
Web designer 1
Web designer 2
Web designer 3
Web designer 4
Department Focus
60
clients
60
clients
60
clients
Goal: Leads Goal: Rankings Goal: Aesthetics
@johnleoweber
The Restructure
PPC
PPC specialist 1
PPC specialist 2
PPC specialist 3
PPC specialist 4
SEO
SEO Specialist 1
SEO Specialist 2
SEO Specialist 3
SEO Specialist 4
Web Design
Web designer 1
Web designer 2
Web designer 3
Web designer 4
Switching to Teams
@johnleoweber
The New Structure
TEAM 1
15 clients PPC Specialist + SEO Specialist + Designer
TEAM 1
15 clients
PPC Specialist + SEO Specialist + Designer
TEAM 1
15 clients PPC Specialist + SEO Specialist + Designer
TEAM 1
15 clients PPC Specialist + SEO Specialist + Designer
Goal: Profitable Clients
Goal: Profitable Clients
Goal: Profitable Clients
Goal: Profitable Clients
@johnleoweber
The Impact
How did the organization change?
Communication
Instead of having 3 siloed departments working on an account separately, now 1 team owns each
account.
Learning
Cross department learning, and every employee becomes a marketer
Unity
Employee happiness goes up when you remove the organizational boxes
Innovation
Cross department learning, and every employee becomes a marketer
@johnleoweber
Data Sharing
How can we share data between SEO and PPC
Departments?
Standardize Goals
Use Google Analytics to set up goals that both departments can use. Ex:
“Phone Calls” and “Form Fills”
Reporting
With our Analytics goals now set up, we can look at goal completions broken
down by Source/Medium (Google/CPC, Google/Organic) * last click
attribution standard in GA
PPC export of “search terms report”
In Adwords, which terms are actually driving traffic to the site?
Google Search Console “search analytics” report
Organically, which terms are actually driving traffic to the site?
@johnleoweber
What does cross channel marketing look like?
Using Other Department’s Information and Channel Reach
Old Method:
SEO team wants links for a realtor client
so they make a big content piece and
send outreach emails to 1000 real estate
blogs.
Investment: 40 hours of outreach (at
$25/hour for that employee, $1000)
The Result: A few dozen links
New Method:
Marketing team want to drive profits so
they make a big content piece and
promote it to 100,000 realtors on
Facebook.
The investment: $250 FB ads
The Result: A few dozen links, 10,000+
FB engagements, and sustained
rankings.
@johnleoweber
Another Example:
Capitalizing on Top Performing Content
Old Method:
A blog we wrote is ranking well! Tell the
client!
New Method:
A blog we wrote is ranking well.
Implement a trap door on that blog to
capture email addresses with a free
ebook download.
Use the captured emails to remarket to
visitors, and to create lookalike audiences
on Facebook to find new business.
@johnleoweber
Trap Doors
@johnleoweber
Agency Leads for $4?
THE SECRET FORMULA:
Step 1:
Develop niche specific content on your website
Step 2:
Use traditional SEO methods as well as Adwords and Facebook to drive traffic to that content
Step 3:
Use trap doors to capture email addresses
Step 4:
Use collected email addresses for sales team, retargeting, email drip, and lookalike audiences
@johnleoweber
Example of Niche Targeting
@johnleoweber
Pro Tip 1
How to Maximize Cross Channel Results
Buy Email Lists (but don’t email them)
Purchased or scraped email lists are great for uploading into FB Ads, but never
cold email your list or you risk getting banned.
● Builtwith.com
Scrape SERPs
There are also tools that you can use to scrape search results for contact info.
● Scrapebox.com
● Use a virtual assistant
List Size Tip
Facebook recommends starting a
lookalike audience with no less
than 1,000 emails in your source
list.
@johnleoweber
Pro Tip 2
How to Maximize Cross Channel Results
Set up drip campaigns
Once someone gives you their email address, put them into an
automation funnel
● Mailchimp now offers FREE automation
Use less HTML in your automated emails
Make your automated emails look like they came from you
directly.
● Evidence that less HTML leads to higher engagement
● Email recipients are more likely to respond if the think that
the email is NOT automated
@johnleoweber
Shameless Plug
@drunkSEOrobot
@johnleoweber

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State of Search 2017 - Cross Channel Marketing by John Leo Weber

  • 1. Building a Cross-Channel Agency Combining SEO and PPC Into a Lead Gen Machine @johnleoweber
  • 2. Department Goals PPC Drive conversions. Optimize landing pages. Measure everything. SEO RANKINGS! Web Design Win some design awards. In their ideal world @johnleoweber
  • 3. This Creates Problems. PPC SEO Web Design ● Landing pages, not websites ● Hoarding Data ● Weird pages ● Disregard for UX ● Slow websites ● Code bloat ● Bad for SEO Criminal Lawyer Houston “The whole home page is gonna be a video and there won’t be any text at all…” @johnleoweber
  • 4. SEO How Do We Measure Success? RANKINGS PPC How Do We Measure Success? Click Through Rate Ad Position / Placements Impressions Landing Page Conversion Rates Conversions / Sales $$$ @johnleoweber
  • 5. SEOPPC ● Team of paid advertising specialists ● Measuring everything ● Making changes daily ● We put a keyword in the title! ● The intern wrote our metas! ● You can measure organic CTR? @johnleoweber
  • 6. We need to get all teams on the same page. @johnleoweber
  • 7. The Old Structure PPC PPC specialist 1 PPC specialist 2 PPC specialist 3 PPC specialist 4 SEO SEO Specialist 1 SEO Specialist 2 SEO Specialist 3 SEO Specialist 4 Web Design Web designer 1 Web designer 2 Web designer 3 Web designer 4 Department Focus 60 clients 60 clients 60 clients Goal: Leads Goal: Rankings Goal: Aesthetics @johnleoweber
  • 8. The Restructure PPC PPC specialist 1 PPC specialist 2 PPC specialist 3 PPC specialist 4 SEO SEO Specialist 1 SEO Specialist 2 SEO Specialist 3 SEO Specialist 4 Web Design Web designer 1 Web designer 2 Web designer 3 Web designer 4 Switching to Teams @johnleoweber
  • 9. The New Structure TEAM 1 15 clients PPC Specialist + SEO Specialist + Designer TEAM 1 15 clients PPC Specialist + SEO Specialist + Designer TEAM 1 15 clients PPC Specialist + SEO Specialist + Designer TEAM 1 15 clients PPC Specialist + SEO Specialist + Designer Goal: Profitable Clients Goal: Profitable Clients Goal: Profitable Clients Goal: Profitable Clients @johnleoweber
  • 10. The Impact How did the organization change? Communication Instead of having 3 siloed departments working on an account separately, now 1 team owns each account. Learning Cross department learning, and every employee becomes a marketer Unity Employee happiness goes up when you remove the organizational boxes Innovation Cross department learning, and every employee becomes a marketer @johnleoweber
  • 11. Data Sharing How can we share data between SEO and PPC Departments? Standardize Goals Use Google Analytics to set up goals that both departments can use. Ex: “Phone Calls” and “Form Fills” Reporting With our Analytics goals now set up, we can look at goal completions broken down by Source/Medium (Google/CPC, Google/Organic) * last click attribution standard in GA PPC export of “search terms report” In Adwords, which terms are actually driving traffic to the site? Google Search Console “search analytics” report Organically, which terms are actually driving traffic to the site? @johnleoweber
  • 12. What does cross channel marketing look like? Using Other Department’s Information and Channel Reach Old Method: SEO team wants links for a realtor client so they make a big content piece and send outreach emails to 1000 real estate blogs. Investment: 40 hours of outreach (at $25/hour for that employee, $1000) The Result: A few dozen links New Method: Marketing team want to drive profits so they make a big content piece and promote it to 100,000 realtors on Facebook. The investment: $250 FB ads The Result: A few dozen links, 10,000+ FB engagements, and sustained rankings. @johnleoweber
  • 13. Another Example: Capitalizing on Top Performing Content Old Method: A blog we wrote is ranking well! Tell the client! New Method: A blog we wrote is ranking well. Implement a trap door on that blog to capture email addresses with a free ebook download. Use the captured emails to remarket to visitors, and to create lookalike audiences on Facebook to find new business. @johnleoweber
  • 15. Agency Leads for $4? THE SECRET FORMULA: Step 1: Develop niche specific content on your website Step 2: Use traditional SEO methods as well as Adwords and Facebook to drive traffic to that content Step 3: Use trap doors to capture email addresses Step 4: Use collected email addresses for sales team, retargeting, email drip, and lookalike audiences @johnleoweber
  • 16. Example of Niche Targeting @johnleoweber
  • 17. Pro Tip 1 How to Maximize Cross Channel Results Buy Email Lists (but don’t email them) Purchased or scraped email lists are great for uploading into FB Ads, but never cold email your list or you risk getting banned. ● Builtwith.com Scrape SERPs There are also tools that you can use to scrape search results for contact info. ● Scrapebox.com ● Use a virtual assistant List Size Tip Facebook recommends starting a lookalike audience with no less than 1,000 emails in your source list. @johnleoweber
  • 18. Pro Tip 2 How to Maximize Cross Channel Results Set up drip campaigns Once someone gives you their email address, put them into an automation funnel ● Mailchimp now offers FREE automation Use less HTML in your automated emails Make your automated emails look like they came from you directly. ● Evidence that less HTML leads to higher engagement ● Email recipients are more likely to respond if the think that the email is NOT automated @johnleoweber