This document discusses the challenges of evaluating, monitoring, and verifying energy savings from energy efficiency programs as investment in these programs increases. It outlines differing views on the current state of EM&V and challenges such as estimating savings in the absence of a direct measurement and accounting for factors like free riders. It recommends improving transparency, increasing consistency between states and programs, and developing regional and national EM&V protocols and standards to enhance the credibility and reliability of energy savings measurements.