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“Real World” Radiology:
Navigating the changing
Radiology Landscape
Rich Hallett, MD
Adjunct Clinical Associate Professor of
Radiology, SHC
Section Chief, CVI
Northwest Radiology Network
Indianapolis, IN
May 30, 2019
Outline
 My background
 “What I wish I knew in training”
 Transitions from trainee to attending
 Submitted questions
My Background
 BS Chemistry, DePauw University
 MD (honors) Indiana University
 Residency + 6 months IR :
Methodist Hospital of IN / Indiana University
 6 years in private practice, Columbus IN 
 Fellowship (CVI): Stanford
 Partnership, Northwest Radiology
Network (Indianapolis, IN)
– 72% time in September 2017 (2/3 time+ fullcall)
 Stanford VCF / ACF 2006-17
 CE line: Adjunct Clinical Associate Professor
(2017)
Other current activities
 Editorial Board, European Radiology (CVI)
 DSMB, Aortic Interventions, Cook Medical
 Board of Managers, Strategic Radiology
Northwest Radiology
Network (NWR)
 55 Rad Private Practice Group
 St. Vincent Heart Center of Indiana
 >10 Ascension Health Indiana hospitals,
8 microhospitals, 5 SVMG imaging centers
 3 imaging center JVs
 multiple other hospitals and OP clinics
 Core Member of Strategic Radiology
Northwest Radiology
Network (NWR)
 24/7/365 subspecialty coverage
 McKesson PACS, TeraRecon, WebPax
 Real-time reads on >95% of exams
 Median TAT:
– ED: 14 min (contract >60)
– IP: 30 min (<6 hr)
– OP: 3.5 hr (<24 hr)
Stratetgic Radiology
 National 1100+ radiologist private practice
consortium
 SR Teleradiology Partners (SR-STP) -
nighthawk service
 Limited (but growing) economic integration
Texas Wyoming Illinois Colorado
Michigan Washington CaliforniaFlorida Utah
Indiana California California.Georgia Iowa
Texas Indiana ArizonaArkansas Georgia
Pennsylvania
New Jersey Minnesota Indiana Kansas Georgia
Connecticut Wisconsin
Page •9
SR Core Members
SR Affiliate Members
New member groups signed in 2018 (160 physicians)
New member groups signed in 2019 (43 physicians)
Recent or scheduled presentations (409 physicians)
NDAs executed (170 physicians)
Recent inquiries (194 physicians)
St. Vincent Heart
Center of Indiana
 IBM WatsonHealth top 50 cardiovascular
hospital
 5 Star CMS grade
 150 CV / vascular beds, 180+ CV physicians
 1000+ Edwards TAVR implants (>1400 total)
 800+ TAVR CTA/yr
What I wish I knew in training
 The attendings don’t know everything
– Very deep, focal knowledge
 Versatility is important
– Treat each rotation as if it will be your subspecialty
 Most techs want to do good work
– Call them at least as many times for good exams
as for bad
Other career lessons
 For contracts: get everything in writing
 Treat your techs (and partners) with respect
 When in doubt, ask!
 Practice the golden rule
What is my case mix? What do I read/do
that I didn’t learn as a fellow?
 For a long time, I did 50% CV, the rest lite-
moderate IR
 Now: days are 90% CVI
– CT, MR, vascular Doppler US
 Lots of general after-hours and weekends
– Body CT/MR, plain films
– Some MSK, neuro
 Learned (re-learned) trauma in past 5 yrs
What is my case mix? What do I read/do
that I didn’t learn as a fellow?
 Just be interested and available to learn
 Practices value the ability to train you to fill
a hole (nucs, prostate MR, lite IR, etc).
 In my practice, have to be able to do mammo
OR non-vascular body procedures
(except neuro)
 Low-hanging fruit: arterial Doppler / ABIs,
non-PET/CT nucs, DEXA, etc
Unique challenges in practice for which
I felt lessprepared?
 Pace
– MOONLIGHT
– Maximize night/after hours efficiency while still in
training
 Variation in image quality and tech
competence / interest / engagement
– Educate, feed, cajol, persist, complain
 Politics
Unique challenges in practice for which
I felt lessprepared?
Valuable things I have done/ wished I
had done as a trainee
 Self care time
 Moonlight
 Look up final reports on cases I’d seen on call
 Take a course in statistics
 Find a mentor
 Ask lots of questions
 Network
Key components of a favorable contract
 Practice structure
– Shareholder vs. employed
– Takes 75% partner vote for to fire another partner
 Practice CULTURE
 Salary & Benefits
 Time to Partnership
 Shareholder status
 Buy-In / Out
 Non-compete
Desirable non-clinical skills
 Technology (particularly AI, data mining)
 Quality programs
 Business intelligence (can generate and interpret
quality dashboards, etc)
 Protocol design (CT, MR, screening programs)
 Management skills (ACR-RLI, SR: Babson)
– The Advisory Board
Why did I pick my practice over others?
 Location, culture
– knew and respected several of the partners
(former attendings, co-residents)
 Autonomy to develop and do what I liked
(CVI)
 Not entirely for money
 Other considerations:
– Vacation time
– Fairness to new hires(culture)
– Outside or additional earning / learning
opportunities (moonlighting, read-at-home, etc)
2 things I wish I knew before entering
workforce
 Financial Planning
 How to develop and wield soft power
Negotiating salary and benefits,
academia vs. private practice
 Currently a seller’s market in private practice
 Avg radiologist has 2.3 jobs in career
 Hottest subspecialties:
– MSK
– Neuro
– Body CT/MR
– Cardiothoracic *
 Salary: varies widely (imaging centers, payor mix,
practice size and style, geography)
 Vacation: we have 10 weeks at full parity
– Also varies widely
Negotiating salary and benefits,
academia vs. private practice
 Sometimes, it is WHO YOU KNOW
– Keep up contacts, collaborate
 There will always be a place for talent
 There will always be a place for hard workers
 Look for your niche and comfort level
– But- being the only person doing something can be
exhausting!
Negotiating salary and benefits,
academia vs. private practice
 We will negotiate salary before years to partner
(but both are negotiable)
 If you bring money (work) into the practice you
will (should) be compensated
– examples
 In academia, if you are a researcher, ask for
more research time (e.g. 40% clinical, etc)
– Hard to ask for more later
– Need this time to develop/submit/receive more
grants, especially when starting
Other options:
 Non-shareholder track:
– Less after-hours and other work; less security,
maybe less $$
 Aggregators
– MedNax (vRAD), RadPartners, Envision, etc.
– Groups owned by / sold to venture capital, public
companies, others
– Finite vs. Infinite game
– REALLY important to know what role they play
and your place in the corp. before signing
 Locums
Do practices consider moonlighting
experience, etc when deciding to hire?
 We do, YES!
 It can help demonstrate you can handle the
clinical workload
 Alternative: offer to moonlight a few days for
the practice
– Drawback: credentialling
Best ways to stay up to date outside
your subspecialty?
 Moonlight
 General call
 Radiographics
 Stat-Dx
 Hospital conferences
Special thanks to:
 Payam Massaband, MD

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Real World Radiology: Navigating the Changing Radiology Landscape

  • 1. “Real World” Radiology: Navigating the changing Radiology Landscape Rich Hallett, MD Adjunct Clinical Associate Professor of Radiology, SHC Section Chief, CVI Northwest Radiology Network Indianapolis, IN May 30, 2019
  • 2. Outline  My background  “What I wish I knew in training”  Transitions from trainee to attending  Submitted questions
  • 3. My Background  BS Chemistry, DePauw University  MD (honors) Indiana University  Residency + 6 months IR : Methodist Hospital of IN / Indiana University  6 years in private practice, Columbus IN   Fellowship (CVI): Stanford  Partnership, Northwest Radiology Network (Indianapolis, IN) – 72% time in September 2017 (2/3 time+ fullcall)  Stanford VCF / ACF 2006-17  CE line: Adjunct Clinical Associate Professor (2017)
  • 4. Other current activities  Editorial Board, European Radiology (CVI)  DSMB, Aortic Interventions, Cook Medical  Board of Managers, Strategic Radiology
  • 5. Northwest Radiology Network (NWR)  55 Rad Private Practice Group  St. Vincent Heart Center of Indiana  >10 Ascension Health Indiana hospitals, 8 microhospitals, 5 SVMG imaging centers  3 imaging center JVs  multiple other hospitals and OP clinics  Core Member of Strategic Radiology
  • 6. Northwest Radiology Network (NWR)  24/7/365 subspecialty coverage  McKesson PACS, TeraRecon, WebPax  Real-time reads on >95% of exams  Median TAT: – ED: 14 min (contract >60) – IP: 30 min (<6 hr) – OP: 3.5 hr (<24 hr)
  • 7. Stratetgic Radiology  National 1100+ radiologist private practice consortium  SR Teleradiology Partners (SR-STP) - nighthawk service  Limited (but growing) economic integration
  • 8. Texas Wyoming Illinois Colorado Michigan Washington CaliforniaFlorida Utah Indiana California California.Georgia Iowa Texas Indiana ArizonaArkansas Georgia Pennsylvania New Jersey Minnesota Indiana Kansas Georgia Connecticut Wisconsin
  • 9. Page •9 SR Core Members SR Affiliate Members New member groups signed in 2018 (160 physicians) New member groups signed in 2019 (43 physicians) Recent or scheduled presentations (409 physicians) NDAs executed (170 physicians) Recent inquiries (194 physicians)
  • 10. St. Vincent Heart Center of Indiana  IBM WatsonHealth top 50 cardiovascular hospital  5 Star CMS grade  150 CV / vascular beds, 180+ CV physicians  1000+ Edwards TAVR implants (>1400 total)  800+ TAVR CTA/yr
  • 11. What I wish I knew in training  The attendings don’t know everything – Very deep, focal knowledge  Versatility is important – Treat each rotation as if it will be your subspecialty  Most techs want to do good work – Call them at least as many times for good exams as for bad
  • 12. Other career lessons  For contracts: get everything in writing  Treat your techs (and partners) with respect  When in doubt, ask!  Practice the golden rule
  • 13. What is my case mix? What do I read/do that I didn’t learn as a fellow?  For a long time, I did 50% CV, the rest lite- moderate IR  Now: days are 90% CVI – CT, MR, vascular Doppler US  Lots of general after-hours and weekends – Body CT/MR, plain films – Some MSK, neuro  Learned (re-learned) trauma in past 5 yrs
  • 14. What is my case mix? What do I read/do that I didn’t learn as a fellow?  Just be interested and available to learn  Practices value the ability to train you to fill a hole (nucs, prostate MR, lite IR, etc).  In my practice, have to be able to do mammo OR non-vascular body procedures (except neuro)  Low-hanging fruit: arterial Doppler / ABIs, non-PET/CT nucs, DEXA, etc
  • 15. Unique challenges in practice for which I felt lessprepared?  Pace – MOONLIGHT – Maximize night/after hours efficiency while still in training  Variation in image quality and tech competence / interest / engagement – Educate, feed, cajol, persist, complain  Politics Unique challenges in practice for which I felt lessprepared?
  • 16. Valuable things I have done/ wished I had done as a trainee  Self care time  Moonlight  Look up final reports on cases I’d seen on call  Take a course in statistics  Find a mentor  Ask lots of questions  Network
  • 17. Key components of a favorable contract  Practice structure – Shareholder vs. employed – Takes 75% partner vote for to fire another partner  Practice CULTURE  Salary & Benefits  Time to Partnership  Shareholder status  Buy-In / Out  Non-compete
  • 18. Desirable non-clinical skills  Technology (particularly AI, data mining)  Quality programs  Business intelligence (can generate and interpret quality dashboards, etc)  Protocol design (CT, MR, screening programs)  Management skills (ACR-RLI, SR: Babson) – The Advisory Board
  • 19. Why did I pick my practice over others?  Location, culture – knew and respected several of the partners (former attendings, co-residents)  Autonomy to develop and do what I liked (CVI)  Not entirely for money  Other considerations: – Vacation time – Fairness to new hires(culture) – Outside or additional earning / learning opportunities (moonlighting, read-at-home, etc)
  • 20. 2 things I wish I knew before entering workforce  Financial Planning  How to develop and wield soft power
  • 21. Negotiating salary and benefits, academia vs. private practice  Currently a seller’s market in private practice  Avg radiologist has 2.3 jobs in career  Hottest subspecialties: – MSK – Neuro – Body CT/MR – Cardiothoracic *  Salary: varies widely (imaging centers, payor mix, practice size and style, geography)  Vacation: we have 10 weeks at full parity – Also varies widely
  • 22. Negotiating salary and benefits, academia vs. private practice  Sometimes, it is WHO YOU KNOW – Keep up contacts, collaborate  There will always be a place for talent  There will always be a place for hard workers  Look for your niche and comfort level – But- being the only person doing something can be exhausting!
  • 23. Negotiating salary and benefits, academia vs. private practice  We will negotiate salary before years to partner (but both are negotiable)  If you bring money (work) into the practice you will (should) be compensated – examples  In academia, if you are a researcher, ask for more research time (e.g. 40% clinical, etc) – Hard to ask for more later – Need this time to develop/submit/receive more grants, especially when starting
  • 24. Other options:  Non-shareholder track: – Less after-hours and other work; less security, maybe less $$  Aggregators – MedNax (vRAD), RadPartners, Envision, etc. – Groups owned by / sold to venture capital, public companies, others – Finite vs. Infinite game – REALLY important to know what role they play and your place in the corp. before signing  Locums
  • 25. Do practices consider moonlighting experience, etc when deciding to hire?  We do, YES!  It can help demonstrate you can handle the clinical workload  Alternative: offer to moonlight a few days for the practice – Drawback: credentialling
  • 26. Best ways to stay up to date outside your subspecialty?  Moonlight  General call  Radiographics  Stat-Dx  Hospital conferences
  • 27. Special thanks to:  Payam Massaband, MD