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PROCESS GC ANALYSIS OF A
                         HAZARDOUS SAMPLE USING A
                           DISCRETE SAMPLE VALVE
                            IN A REMOTE LOCATION
                                           Tom G. Montgomery
                                     Siemens Energy & Automation, Inc.
                                            Process Analytics
                                      Presented in Calgary by Bob Farmer, SE&A



Analytical Solutions for Process Control & Compliance
The 53rd Annual Symposium of the Analysis Division
Calgary, Alberta Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Outline
• Introduction and Abstract
• Background and the project requirement
• Solution to project requirements
• Possible issues with solution and investigations
• Result




   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium          Slide 2
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Introduction and Abstract
• Practical example of discrete remote sample injection
   – Many thanks to Dr. Jimmy Converse

• Owner’s requirement
   – Hydrocarbon components in hazardous stream matrix
   – The owner made severe constraints regarding sample handling

• Solution
   – Description of remote discrete sample injection technique
   – Discussion of potential negative impacts

• Investigations
   – Discussion of possible negative effects on the measurement


   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                           Slide 3
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Background
                                                                            Gas Chromatograph
•   GC is a sample extractive technique
     –   To minimize lag time, a “large” quantity
         of sample is removed from process                                  Electronics
         and transported to the analyzer at high
         flow rates                                            Temperature Oven
     –   At the analyzer, a small quantity of                    Controlled
         sample is extracted again and                                        Columns       Detector
         conditioned for presentation to the                                  and Valves
         analyzer at low flow rates
     –   Unused sample is returned to process
         or to flare
     –   In the analyzer a tiny quantity of                                     3
         sample is extracted again and inserted
         onto the columns                                                                 Sample
•                                                                                         Valve
    Original extraction and transport
    issues                                                    Carrier
     –                                                         Gas
         Flow 1: typical 3.5 l/min to ½” tubing
     –   Flow 2: typical 30-40 ml/min to 1/16” or
         1/8” tubing                                                                   2
     –   Sample 3: typical 0.5 µl sample or less
                                                                  1
                                                                             Sampling System
                                                    Process
                                                    Stream
      AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                                                    Slide 4
      Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Standard GC Extractive Sampling
Technique
                                                            Analyzer Shelter
                                   Unused sample to flare
                                   or return to process




                                                                        Illustration Ref. Dr. J. Converse
  AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                                                              Slide 5
  Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Benefits of Standard Technique

• Ensures fresh sample is present at inlet of GC (reduces
  time lag)
   – In this application, transport-related lag time = ~30 sec

• No affect on chromatographic method


                                                            Analyzer Shelter
                                   Unused sample to flare
                                   or return to process




   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                                        Slide 6
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Problems of Standard Technique
•   Extracts large quantities of sample from process
•   Excess sample must be disposed or returned to process
•   Failure conditions, including leakage on the transport line must be
    accommodated
•   Leakage can result in hazards of fire or injury to personnel
     – On this project, the stream contained ~2% Hydrofluoric Acid (HF)
     – Lethal to humans: STEL <3ppm; Extremely corrosive
                                                              Analyzer Shelter
                                     Unused sample to flare
                                     or return to process




     AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                                        Slide 7
     Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Solution – Remote Discrete
  Sampling
                                               Analyzer Shelter




Sample valve
located near
process




                                                           Illustration Ref. Dr. J. Converse
        AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                                           Slide 8
        Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Benefits of Remote Sampling
• Eliminates transport of large quantities of
  sample
• Minimizes waste
• Reduces issues of leakage away from process
   – Reduces human hazards
   – Reduces potential for damage




   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium         Slide 9
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Potential Negative Effects on
Analysis
• Increased cycle time (or lag time)
• Retention time shift
  – Effect on valve operating times
  – Effect on gating reliability

• Peak effects
  – Peak broadening
  – Measurement performance




   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium   Slide 10
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Transport Tubing “Part Of Oven”
                                   Ref      BF      Main   ITC

                                                                                           Transport Tubing must be at
                 Car. Ref.                                                                 a controlled temperature: ±?°

                Vents                                                          60 Ft       “The heated transfer line can
                                                                                           be perceived as a very long,
                                                                                           slender oven.”
                                                                                           (Dr. J. Converse)
                        KOh        C1b




                                                                                                             Car. 1
                      6




                                                                                       6
                              1




                                                                                           1
                                           C2
                5




                                                                                  5
                                2




                                                                                               2
                   4




                                                                                   4
                           3




                                                                                           3
       C3
                                                Car. 2



Oven Temp: 60°C ±0.05°C                                          Sample from
Valves and wetted tubing of Hastelloy C                          Process
         AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                                                                   Slide 11
         Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Questions To Be Investigated
• How much lag time is introduced?
• How good does the temperature control of
  transport tubing have to be?
  – Effect on Backflush Valve operation
  – Effect on gating of components

• Any other analytical issues?




   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium      Slide 12
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Test Set
• Maxum GC with divided oven
    – Two isothermal halves                                                            Detector
    – Each temperature
      independently controlled
• Application with SV and CV                                                           2 valves
  and columns at 60°C (analysis
  temperature)
• Coil (60’) of 0.032” ID / 1/16”                                                      Divided Oven
  OD tubing to simulate process
  transport tubing on other side
• Carrier pressure 51 psig and
  resulting flow 30 ml/min
• Varied coil temperature from
  40° to 80°C in 10°C
  increments and plotted
  chromatograms
                                           Test Coil Side
    AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium
    Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
                                                 Application Side   (Photos representative of   Slide 13
                                                                    actual test set.)
Questions To Be Investigated
• How much lag time is introduced?
• How good does the temperature control of
  transport tubing have to be?
  – Effect on Backflush Valve operation
  – Effect on gating of components

• Any other analytical issues?




   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium      Slide 14
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Lag Time Observed
                                              ITC Without Tubing




                                              ITC With Tubing at 60°C
Ref. Propane:
Elution: ~42sec  151sec
Additional Lag: ~109sec




       AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                             Slide 15
       Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Questions To Be Investigated
• How much lag time is introduced?
• How good does the temperature control of
  transport tubing have to be?
  – Effect on Backflush Valve operation
  – Effect on gating of components

• Any other analytical issues?




   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium      Slide 16
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
How Much Shift in BF Time Can
Be Allowed?
Same as previous slide with BF time set out to 240 sec.


         ITC With Tubing at 60°C




          Ref. Propane elution = 151sec.




                                     Acceptable retention time shift: <±3 sec.
    AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                                         Slide 17
    Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
How Much Retention Shift Is
Acceptable for Gating?
                                                 Main Detector – No Tubing




  • Adequate separation suggests retention time shifts of ~10 seconds can be
    accommodated by normal gating technique.
  • Therefore, the BF time requirement will be the primary control. (<±3 sec)
  AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                                          Slide 18
  Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
A Quick Test At the ITC
                                               ITC With Tubing at 60°C
Retention Times:
40°C : 177 (not shown)
60°C : 171.3
80°C : 166.3




                                               ITC With Tubing at 80°C




        AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                        Slide 19
        Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Main Detector; Tubing 60°C




  AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium   Slide 20
  Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Main Detector; Tubing 80°C




  AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium   Slide 21
  Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Main Detector; Tubing 40°C




  AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium   Slide 22
  Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Retention Time Effects Summary

• ±20°C shift in temperature of transport tubing
  causes retention time changes of >10 sec
• Transport tubing temperature should be
  controlled to at least ±5°C to ensure reliable
  performance of the analyzer


• (Note: Sample Valve temperature may also vary
  ±5°C since this is a liquid sample.)

   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium            Slide 23
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Questions To Be Investigated
• How much lag time is introduced?
• How good does the temperature control of
  transport tubing have to be?
  – Effect on Backflush Valve operation
  – Effect on gating of components

• Any other analytical issues?




   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium      Slide 24
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Peak Shape
• Columns used: 0.53 mm ID “megabore” capillary
  – Normal response is sharp (Eg; Methane ~5 sec wide
    even when retained 2.5 minutes at 40ml/min flow
    rate)
  – Therefore, negligible peak broadening was expected

• No significant broadening was observed




   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium             Slide 25
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Measurement Performance
• Due to good peak shape performance,
  measurement performance is expected to be
  good
• All peaks performed well except C5+ (backflush
  peak)
                                                   10°C swing in transport tubing
         40C                              7.46%    temperature cause about a relative
                                                   1.6% change in the C5+ concentration.
         50C                              7.57%
         60C                              7.69%    Note: C5+ in this sample is made of
                                                   Isopentane through n-Hexane. May be
         70C                              7.944%   a result of backflush of C5s and
                                                   possibly C4s at lower temperatures.
         80C                              8.086%
   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                                               Slide 26
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Summary Of Observations
• Lag Time
  – Consistent with predictions from flow calculations
  – Acceptable in overall system performance

• Retention Shift
  – Tubing must be kept at a constant temperature ±5°C

• Analytical Issues
  – Negligible in some cases – but poor performance of
    backflush “plus” peak also requires tubing to be kept
    at a constant temperature ±5°C

   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                  Slide 27
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Results
• Remote discrete sampling resolves problems of
  hazardous sample handling
• Lag time effects are predictable
• Transport tubing must be kept at a controlled
  temperature – but not as tightly controlled as an
  analytical oven
• Measurement performance effects are acceptable if
  transport tubing temperature is controlled
• Additional benefit: HF neutralization can be
  accomplished with a small column instead of a large pot

    AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium               Slide 28
    Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Other Limitations
• This test was with a liquid sample
  – Simpler transport of sample aliquot
  – Simpler temperature control requirements on sample
    valve (and transport tubing)

• Distance from process to analyzer was not large
  (~60ft)
  – Lag time increase is acceptable even at relatively low
    flow rates of chromatographic columns



   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium                Slide 29
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
Acknowledgements
• Dr. Jimmy Converse (research and publications)
• Steve Trimble (Siemens Process Analytics)




   AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium       Slide 30
   Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008

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Isa 2008 remote injection montgomery

  • 1. PROCESS GC ANALYSIS OF A HAZARDOUS SAMPLE USING A DISCRETE SAMPLE VALVE IN A REMOTE LOCATION Tom G. Montgomery Siemens Energy & Automation, Inc. Process Analytics Presented in Calgary by Bob Farmer, SE&A Analytical Solutions for Process Control & Compliance The 53rd Annual Symposium of the Analysis Division Calgary, Alberta Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 2. Outline • Introduction and Abstract • Background and the project requirement • Solution to project requirements • Possible issues with solution and investigations • Result AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 2 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 3. Introduction and Abstract • Practical example of discrete remote sample injection – Many thanks to Dr. Jimmy Converse • Owner’s requirement – Hydrocarbon components in hazardous stream matrix – The owner made severe constraints regarding sample handling • Solution – Description of remote discrete sample injection technique – Discussion of potential negative impacts • Investigations – Discussion of possible negative effects on the measurement AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 3 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 4. Background Gas Chromatograph • GC is a sample extractive technique – To minimize lag time, a “large” quantity of sample is removed from process Electronics and transported to the analyzer at high flow rates Temperature Oven – At the analyzer, a small quantity of Controlled sample is extracted again and Columns Detector conditioned for presentation to the and Valves analyzer at low flow rates – Unused sample is returned to process or to flare – In the analyzer a tiny quantity of 3 sample is extracted again and inserted onto the columns Sample • Valve Original extraction and transport issues Carrier – Gas Flow 1: typical 3.5 l/min to ½” tubing – Flow 2: typical 30-40 ml/min to 1/16” or 1/8” tubing 2 – Sample 3: typical 0.5 µl sample or less 1 Sampling System Process Stream AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 4 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 5. Standard GC Extractive Sampling Technique Analyzer Shelter Unused sample to flare or return to process Illustration Ref. Dr. J. Converse AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 5 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 6. Benefits of Standard Technique • Ensures fresh sample is present at inlet of GC (reduces time lag) – In this application, transport-related lag time = ~30 sec • No affect on chromatographic method Analyzer Shelter Unused sample to flare or return to process AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 6 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 7. Problems of Standard Technique • Extracts large quantities of sample from process • Excess sample must be disposed or returned to process • Failure conditions, including leakage on the transport line must be accommodated • Leakage can result in hazards of fire or injury to personnel – On this project, the stream contained ~2% Hydrofluoric Acid (HF) – Lethal to humans: STEL <3ppm; Extremely corrosive Analyzer Shelter Unused sample to flare or return to process AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 7 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 8. Solution – Remote Discrete Sampling Analyzer Shelter Sample valve located near process Illustration Ref. Dr. J. Converse AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 8 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 9. Benefits of Remote Sampling • Eliminates transport of large quantities of sample • Minimizes waste • Reduces issues of leakage away from process – Reduces human hazards – Reduces potential for damage AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 9 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 10. Potential Negative Effects on Analysis • Increased cycle time (or lag time) • Retention time shift – Effect on valve operating times – Effect on gating reliability • Peak effects – Peak broadening – Measurement performance AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 10 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 11. Transport Tubing “Part Of Oven” Ref BF Main ITC Transport Tubing must be at Car. Ref. a controlled temperature: ±?° Vents 60 Ft “The heated transfer line can be perceived as a very long, slender oven.” (Dr. J. Converse) KOh C1b Car. 1 6 6 1 1 C2 5 5 2 2 4 4 3 3 C3 Car. 2 Oven Temp: 60°C ±0.05°C Sample from Valves and wetted tubing of Hastelloy C Process AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 11 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 12. Questions To Be Investigated • How much lag time is introduced? • How good does the temperature control of transport tubing have to be? – Effect on Backflush Valve operation – Effect on gating of components • Any other analytical issues? AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 12 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 13. Test Set • Maxum GC with divided oven – Two isothermal halves Detector – Each temperature independently controlled • Application with SV and CV 2 valves and columns at 60°C (analysis temperature) • Coil (60’) of 0.032” ID / 1/16” Divided Oven OD tubing to simulate process transport tubing on other side • Carrier pressure 51 psig and resulting flow 30 ml/min • Varied coil temperature from 40° to 80°C in 10°C increments and plotted chromatograms Test Coil Side AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008 Application Side (Photos representative of Slide 13 actual test set.)
  • 14. Questions To Be Investigated • How much lag time is introduced? • How good does the temperature control of transport tubing have to be? – Effect on Backflush Valve operation – Effect on gating of components • Any other analytical issues? AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 14 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 15. Lag Time Observed ITC Without Tubing ITC With Tubing at 60°C Ref. Propane: Elution: ~42sec  151sec Additional Lag: ~109sec AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 15 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 16. Questions To Be Investigated • How much lag time is introduced? • How good does the temperature control of transport tubing have to be? – Effect on Backflush Valve operation – Effect on gating of components • Any other analytical issues? AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 16 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 17. How Much Shift in BF Time Can Be Allowed? Same as previous slide with BF time set out to 240 sec. ITC With Tubing at 60°C Ref. Propane elution = 151sec. Acceptable retention time shift: <±3 sec. AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 17 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 18. How Much Retention Shift Is Acceptable for Gating? Main Detector – No Tubing • Adequate separation suggests retention time shifts of ~10 seconds can be accommodated by normal gating technique. • Therefore, the BF time requirement will be the primary control. (<±3 sec) AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 18 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 19. A Quick Test At the ITC ITC With Tubing at 60°C Retention Times: 40°C : 177 (not shown) 60°C : 171.3 80°C : 166.3 ITC With Tubing at 80°C AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 19 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 20. Main Detector; Tubing 60°C AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 20 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 21. Main Detector; Tubing 80°C AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 21 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 22. Main Detector; Tubing 40°C AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 22 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 23. Retention Time Effects Summary • ±20°C shift in temperature of transport tubing causes retention time changes of >10 sec • Transport tubing temperature should be controlled to at least ±5°C to ensure reliable performance of the analyzer • (Note: Sample Valve temperature may also vary ±5°C since this is a liquid sample.) AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 23 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 24. Questions To Be Investigated • How much lag time is introduced? • How good does the temperature control of transport tubing have to be? – Effect on Backflush Valve operation – Effect on gating of components • Any other analytical issues? AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 24 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 25. Peak Shape • Columns used: 0.53 mm ID “megabore” capillary – Normal response is sharp (Eg; Methane ~5 sec wide even when retained 2.5 minutes at 40ml/min flow rate) – Therefore, negligible peak broadening was expected • No significant broadening was observed AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 25 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 26. Measurement Performance • Due to good peak shape performance, measurement performance is expected to be good • All peaks performed well except C5+ (backflush peak) 10°C swing in transport tubing 40C 7.46% temperature cause about a relative 1.6% change in the C5+ concentration. 50C 7.57% 60C 7.69% Note: C5+ in this sample is made of Isopentane through n-Hexane. May be 70C 7.944% a result of backflush of C5s and possibly C4s at lower temperatures. 80C 8.086% AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 26 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 27. Summary Of Observations • Lag Time – Consistent with predictions from flow calculations – Acceptable in overall system performance • Retention Shift – Tubing must be kept at a constant temperature ±5°C • Analytical Issues – Negligible in some cases – but poor performance of backflush “plus” peak also requires tubing to be kept at a constant temperature ±5°C AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 27 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 28. Results • Remote discrete sampling resolves problems of hazardous sample handling • Lag time effects are predictable • Transport tubing must be kept at a controlled temperature – but not as tightly controlled as an analytical oven • Measurement performance effects are acceptable if transport tubing temperature is controlled • Additional benefit: HF neutralization can be accomplished with a small column instead of a large pot AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 28 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 29. Other Limitations • This test was with a liquid sample – Simpler transport of sample aliquot – Simpler temperature control requirements on sample valve (and transport tubing) • Distance from process to analyzer was not large (~60ft) – Lag time increase is acceptable even at relatively low flow rates of chromatographic columns AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 29 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008
  • 30. Acknowledgements • Dr. Jimmy Converse (research and publications) • Steve Trimble (Siemens Process Analytics) AD 2008: Analysis Division Symposium Slide 30 Calgary, AB Canada; 20-24 April 2008