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Webinar:
Vehicle2Grid Utrecht
September 23rd, 2019
14.00 Welcome & introduction by Roel Massink
14.05 Presentation Fredrik Persson (Goteborg Energi)
14.10 Presentation Robin Berg (LomboXnet)
14.40 quick Q&A: questions to clarify the presentation
14.45 Directly followed by general discussion
15.00 End of the webinar
Room for longer discussions who wishes to join (until 15.30)
IRIS Webinar – V2G Utrecht
Program
Roel Massink
Fredrik Persson
Robin Berg
Fredrik Persson
Ambition & Questions
GE – Developing charging
2008 2011 2015 201920172013
Start of
projects
LiFE and
ELVIIS
First
customer
charging
Ten Volvo
C30 for
user
evaluation
HyperBus
plug-in hybrid
buses on bus
service 60
120 kW
ElectriCity:
electric buses
on bus service
16 & 55
300-450 kW
Public charging –
GEs in collaboration
with Parking
Göteborg
Commercial offers
–to customers
Super fast charger
175kW for distribution
and taxi
City collaboration and
demo arena
General
• What are the obstacles of the project?
• What benefits have you already observed in the project?
Technical solution
• What cars are in your vehicle to grid program?
• What types of charging boxes are you using?
• Are the cars charged via AC or DC?
• Where is the converter from DC to AC and/or AC to DC?
Control
• Are the cars connected to the distribution network, specific buildings, specific districts, etc?
• What are the benefits for the electricity system? Load balancing? Effect reduction?
• How do you control and optimize the system?
• Is the control implemented sparingly during certain hours or more actively?
• What is the time resolution in the energy system that can be addressed with your system?
• Are you addressing system stability, network capacity and/or lack of power generation?
Business models
• What are the goals of the system?
• What are the benefits for the users?
• What agreements are in place?
• Do you have agreements with owners of private cars?
• Have you looked into upscaling the system?
SomeQuestions
Robin Berg
V2G in Utrecht
@RobinBerg030
LomboXnet
- fibernetwork
- ISP for 4.000 customers
Christelijk Gymnasium Utrecht
8.000 panels on 25 schoolroofs in the region
Niftarlake College
Amadeus Lyceum
Gerrit Rietveld College
Lombok: Smart Solar Charging
First bidirectional charging station in Europe
Outline LomboXnet project
1
Backoffice
DSO
(Stedin)
Backoffice
Aggregator
(Jedlix)
Backoffice
Charge Spot
Operator
(LMS)
GE
CP
OCPP
2.0
Smart (Solar) Charging
Congestion management with Smart Charging
Messaging
USEF
OCPI
1.4 / 2.1
LMS
module
Car
Sharing
National television VPRO Backlight
Utrecht could be powered for a whole night by just 8.500 bidirectional cars
There are more than 100.000 cars in the city
Ambition Utrecht Region 2020-2024: 1.000 solar chargers, 1.000 shared EV’s, 100.000 users
Paris March 2016: deal Utrecht Region & Renault
22 KW AC charging
15118 AC bidirectional charging
Technocentre Paris
March 21 2019: world premiere AC-15118 bidirectional ecosysteem
Solar Station
First bidirectional AC 15118
charging station in the market
2x22 kW AC charging
Sono Motors: Sion Solar Car
Utrecht first city in the world: citywide network of bidirectional public chargers
Worlds largest bidirectional charging plaza
Worlds largest bidirectional charging plaza
Entry price € 89,-/m
App for reservation and opening
Replacing your own car
70 cars in Utrecht region, Zoetermeer & Amsterdam
Utrecht Science Park
Oudenoord: 92 appartementen met Syntrus Achmea
Museo, Lange Nieuwstraat
Kas&Co, Veemarkt
Stationdistrict Utrecht CS, mobility hub
Leidsche Rijn Centre: MARK, 100 shared cars & e-bikes
Cartesiusdriehoek: 200-300 shared cars & e-bikes Parkingnorm <0,3
5/2/2018: CityDeal with 2 ministrys, 7 large cities, NEPROM, BPD,
Synchroon, Syntrus Achmea, Heijmans
First Dutch guys in Tesla Model 3
February 2019: San Francisco
• When do you suppose Tesla will support V2G?!
• What about the safety on the grid? When there is a blackout how can you be sure that the grid
isn´t having voltage running while itis being repaired. *)
• Does WeDriveSolar also provide the smart charging solution, a way to control the charge and
discharge of the car in function of any input ?
• What are the costs of the bi-directional charging point?
*) ISO 15118 Grid codes FAQ - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/v2gclarity_v2g-vehicle2grid-gridservices-activity-6580720375024414720-MqpK
Questions raised 1/2
Questions raised 2/2
• Mecanoo project: location is a living space... People are off to work with the EV. You still need the
grid to store the energy of power-wall. The concept is a good idea, but energy production has to
be implemented there where the cars are most of the time.
• How will this be implemented for the end-user (the driver of a private car and the person hiring a
shared car): what minimum state of charge can they expect, is there a (financial) advantage for
the (private) driver, etc?
• Do you think there will be a time where I am paid to have my vehicle plugged in all day and
allowing you to trade with the energy rather than paying to have it charged?
THANK YOU
for attending!
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IRIS Webinar: Vehicle 2 Grid (V2G) technology

  • 2. 14.00 Welcome & introduction by Roel Massink 14.05 Presentation Fredrik Persson (Goteborg Energi) 14.10 Presentation Robin Berg (LomboXnet) 14.40 quick Q&A: questions to clarify the presentation 14.45 Directly followed by general discussion 15.00 End of the webinar Room for longer discussions who wishes to join (until 15.30) IRIS Webinar – V2G Utrecht Program Roel Massink Fredrik Persson Robin Berg
  • 4. GE – Developing charging 2008 2011 2015 201920172013 Start of projects LiFE and ELVIIS First customer charging Ten Volvo C30 for user evaluation HyperBus plug-in hybrid buses on bus service 60 120 kW ElectriCity: electric buses on bus service 16 & 55 300-450 kW Public charging – GEs in collaboration with Parking Göteborg Commercial offers –to customers Super fast charger 175kW for distribution and taxi City collaboration and demo arena
  • 5. General • What are the obstacles of the project? • What benefits have you already observed in the project? Technical solution • What cars are in your vehicle to grid program? • What types of charging boxes are you using? • Are the cars charged via AC or DC? • Where is the converter from DC to AC and/or AC to DC? Control • Are the cars connected to the distribution network, specific buildings, specific districts, etc? • What are the benefits for the electricity system? Load balancing? Effect reduction? • How do you control and optimize the system? • Is the control implemented sparingly during certain hours or more actively? • What is the time resolution in the energy system that can be addressed with your system? • Are you addressing system stability, network capacity and/or lack of power generation? Business models • What are the goals of the system? • What are the benefits for the users? • What agreements are in place? • Do you have agreements with owners of private cars? • Have you looked into upscaling the system? SomeQuestions
  • 8. LomboXnet - fibernetwork - ISP for 4.000 customers
  • 9. Christelijk Gymnasium Utrecht 8.000 panels on 25 schoolroofs in the region
  • 14. First bidirectional charging station in Europe
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  • 16. Outline LomboXnet project 1 Backoffice DSO (Stedin) Backoffice Aggregator (Jedlix) Backoffice Charge Spot Operator (LMS) GE CP OCPP 2.0 Smart (Solar) Charging Congestion management with Smart Charging Messaging USEF OCPI 1.4 / 2.1 LMS module Car Sharing
  • 18. Utrecht could be powered for a whole night by just 8.500 bidirectional cars There are more than 100.000 cars in the city
  • 19. Ambition Utrecht Region 2020-2024: 1.000 solar chargers, 1.000 shared EV’s, 100.000 users
  • 20. Paris March 2016: deal Utrecht Region & Renault
  • 21. 22 KW AC charging 15118 AC bidirectional charging
  • 23. March 21 2019: world premiere AC-15118 bidirectional ecosysteem
  • 24. Solar Station First bidirectional AC 15118 charging station in the market 2x22 kW AC charging
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  • 26. Sono Motors: Sion Solar Car
  • 27. Utrecht first city in the world: citywide network of bidirectional public chargers
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  • 32. Entry price € 89,-/m App for reservation and opening Replacing your own car
  • 33. 70 cars in Utrecht region, Zoetermeer & Amsterdam
  • 35. Oudenoord: 92 appartementen met Syntrus Achmea
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  • 41. Leidsche Rijn Centre: MARK, 100 shared cars & e-bikes
  • 42. Cartesiusdriehoek: 200-300 shared cars & e-bikes Parkingnorm <0,3
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  • 44. 5/2/2018: CityDeal with 2 ministrys, 7 large cities, NEPROM, BPD, Synchroon, Syntrus Achmea, Heijmans
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  • 47. First Dutch guys in Tesla Model 3
  • 48. February 2019: San Francisco
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  • 51. • When do you suppose Tesla will support V2G?! • What about the safety on the grid? When there is a blackout how can you be sure that the grid isn´t having voltage running while itis being repaired. *) • Does WeDriveSolar also provide the smart charging solution, a way to control the charge and discharge of the car in function of any input ? • What are the costs of the bi-directional charging point? *) ISO 15118 Grid codes FAQ - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/v2gclarity_v2g-vehicle2grid-gridservices-activity-6580720375024414720-MqpK Questions raised 1/2
  • 52. Questions raised 2/2 • Mecanoo project: location is a living space... People are off to work with the EV. You still need the grid to store the energy of power-wall. The concept is a good idea, but energy production has to be implemented there where the cars are most of the time. • How will this be implemented for the end-user (the driver of a private car and the person hiring a shared car): what minimum state of charge can they expect, is there a (financial) advantage for the (private) driver, etc? • Do you think there will be a time where I am paid to have my vehicle plugged in all day and allowing you to trade with the energy rather than paying to have it charged?