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Will you marry me?
Why engagement is the key to maximizing LTV (Lifetime Value)
Presented by: Brent Chudoba, SurveyMonkey
FirstMark Online Marketing Summit
October 23, 2013
Hi,
I’m Brent

•  VP, GM of SurveyMonkey
Audience
•  @SurveyMonkey since Apr. ’09
•  Schoology BoD member
@bchudoba
brentchudoba.com
in/brentchudoba
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•  If there was one metric I could increase, at every
company where I am an equity holder, it would be
engagement
•  Engaged users:
-  Convert at higher rates
-  Stick around longer
•  Because they are getting value
•  Because they develop higher switching costs

-  Tell you about their needs
-  Tell others about your product
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Conversion & engagement optimization
•  Pure conversion optimization strategies and tactics are incredibly
useful, and well defined
-  Quick to test and simpler to measure
-  There is often a ceiling on tactical conversion gains

•  You don’t typically use conversion to drive engagement
•  But you always use engagement to:
-  Increase conversion
-  Increase ARPU (average revenue per user)
-  Increase retention

•  And I want to show you why introducing engagement metrics can
drive outsized gains
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Presentation goal
•  Provide you with some useful examples and
ways to measure and factor engagement into
your product, marketing and business intelligence
roadmap

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Engagement philosophy
•  If customers get value from your product they will pay
you, stick around and grow
-  If they don’t, they’ll eventually leave

•  Engagement is a tool to get users across a set of
customer success milestones that translate to value
-  If a SurveyMonkey customer sends out surveys every year
and gets enough responses to help them make better
decisions, they are getting value. How do I help get them
to that point?
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Conversion optimization example

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2008

8
2013
Tactical Improvements
•  “Most Popular” badge
•  Above the fold, simple
feature call outs
•  Highlight key package
differences
•  Feature differentiation by
package
•  Tiered package naming
•  Simple CTAs
•  Comparable monthly
pricing shown
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Why does engagement matter?

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An engaged user is more likely to convert to a
paid user, increase their spend over time, and
less likely to cancel their usage of your product
than an inactive, unengaged user.
•  Do you agree or disagree w/ the statement
above?

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So, engagement matters

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But, how can we quantify
how much engagement
matters?

And, how can we impact it?

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Quantifying engagement benefits

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•  An example shows highly engaged users convert at 4x the rate of less engaged users
-  Essentially all highly engaged users convert

•  Heat map of conversion rates by engagement level:

#	
  of	
  Responses	
  Collected

More

Less
Less

More
#	
  of	
  Surveys	
  Deployed

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•  Introducing more features and use cases for products creates
additional value
•  For SurveyMonkey customers who sign up for a paid account, every
additional paid feature they use results in a drop in their churn rate

1 Month Churn Rate

High

Zero
Zero

Number of Paid Features Used in First Month
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Many
How do you drive engagement?

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Driving engagement
•  How do you integrate engagement campaigns
into your metrics and roadmap?
-  Identify: figure out what defines an “engaged” user
-  Optimize: increase the % of users that “engage”
-  Activate: cherry pick top prospects and help them
succeed

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Identify

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What are your engagement milestones?
•  Start at the end
-  When has a customer gotten value from your
product?

•  Now figure out how they got there
-  What are the critical actions that customers go
through to reach a full engagement milestone?

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Finding your end point
•  When does your customer…
-  Login, smile and say, “Wow, this is
awesome. This just saved me a
ton of time. This product was worth
every penny, and I might even +1
or Like this company and tell a few
colleagues how great this is. Yes
SMB SaaS product, yes I will
marry you!”
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Engagement variants
•  Singular Objective Success Point
-  1 main use case, or 1 main user type
-  “Success” looks similar for nearly all users
-  Ex: Nearly all SurveyMonkey users are trying to
create a survey and get responses

•  Variable Objective Success Points
-  Multiple user types, varied “success” definitions
-  Ex: Schoology (students, teachers, administrators,
parents) all have different “success” definitions
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Example: SurveyMonkey engagement funnel
•  What does it take for a user to engage?
•  We identified that sending out a survey and
getting responses was when a user derived value
from our product
-  We decided that more than just a few test responses
was important

•  And then we worked through the experience to
figure out how they got there
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•  Sign up for an account

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•  Create a survey

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•  Add a question

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•  Begin collecting responses

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•  Gather responses
Whoa! Awesome. I
had no idea over
80% of my team had
smart phones

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Optimize

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Establish baselines, measure results

Reach Engagement
Stage 1

% of New Users

•  A metrics driven product
agenda starts w/ a
baseline understanding of
the status quo
•  Then tests w/ various
experiments to see where
it can drive measurable
impact
•  Lather, rinse, repeat

Something
worked here

Reach Engagement
Stage 2
Reach Engagement
Stage 3
Reach Engagement
Stage 4

Conversion Rate

Time

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Conversion Rate
Time
What works?
•  Long term engagement wins are rarely easy
•  Engagement needs to be a success metric that is
factored in to product and marketing goals
•  Features designed with engagement in mind can
increase engagement

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Engaging onboarding experiences
•  Are designed to get users through the engagement process
•  Checklists, gaming elements like profile strength are useful for both users
and your business intelligence

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Engagement shortcuts don’t exist
•  There aren’t nearly as many tactics to better
engage users as there are to convert them
•  You need to earn your engagement, shortcuts
lead to red herrings that don’t materialize in
conversion

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Activate

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Are all users created equal?
•  We all know, the answer is no
•  There are big fish swimming in your pond, and
with the right engagement strategy, they will be
massive customers

35
Do you optimize for big fish? Or all fish?
•  Your best customers might be worth 10x your
average customer
•  Are you activating your 10x’rs to make sure they
stick around?

36
How much are your best customers worth?
•  Certain models necessitate cherry picking top
customers to ensure engagement
•  If 10% of your customers have the potential to
drive 10x+ annual revenue value, you can
replicate (or exceed) subscription economics

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•  SurveyMonkey Audience customers transact differently than monthly
subscription customers
•  They buy projects, so some of them don’t come back
•  But those who do, are incredibly valuable

Cumulative Revenue

Avg. Year 1 Revenue from Repeat Customers
Avg. Year 1 Revenue from ALL Customers

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

Month

* Actual numbers are confidential, this chart is intended to show the relative impact
* Repeat customers includes any customer that purchased in month 1 and any successive month
•  `
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9

10

11

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How do you activate your best customers?
•  The million, or maybe billion $ question
•  Engagement for 10xrs has even bigger
implications
-  Special programs to ensure they move through the
engagement funnel are critical
-  Resourcing to ensure customers w/ $20k+ potential
are successful will often pay huge dividends
-  And the knowledge of what success means is critical
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Thank
you!

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Acknowledgements
•  The SurveyMonkey Business Intelligence team provided all the important
data for this report
•  They provide all the data and insights that help SurveyMonkey make great
decisions, and they are abnormally cool people, which means we get to have
quite a bit of fun while we are at it
•  Thank you BI, you rock

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FirstMark Presentation (10-13) (slideshare)

  • 1. Will you marry me? Why engagement is the key to maximizing LTV (Lifetime Value) Presented by: Brent Chudoba, SurveyMonkey FirstMark Online Marketing Summit October 23, 2013
  • 2. Hi, I’m Brent •  VP, GM of SurveyMonkey Audience •  @SurveyMonkey since Apr. ’09 •  Schoology BoD member @bchudoba brentchudoba.com in/brentchudoba 2
  • 3. •  If there was one metric I could increase, at every company where I am an equity holder, it would be engagement •  Engaged users: -  Convert at higher rates -  Stick around longer •  Because they are getting value •  Because they develop higher switching costs -  Tell you about their needs -  Tell others about your product 3
  • 4. Conversion & engagement optimization •  Pure conversion optimization strategies and tactics are incredibly useful, and well defined -  Quick to test and simpler to measure -  There is often a ceiling on tactical conversion gains •  You don’t typically use conversion to drive engagement •  But you always use engagement to: -  Increase conversion -  Increase ARPU (average revenue per user) -  Increase retention •  And I want to show you why introducing engagement metrics can drive outsized gains 4
  • 5. Presentation goal •  Provide you with some useful examples and ways to measure and factor engagement into your product, marketing and business intelligence roadmap 5
  • 6. Engagement philosophy •  If customers get value from your product they will pay you, stick around and grow -  If they don’t, they’ll eventually leave •  Engagement is a tool to get users across a set of customer success milestones that translate to value -  If a SurveyMonkey customer sends out surveys every year and gets enough responses to help them make better decisions, they are getting value. How do I help get them to that point? 6
  • 9. 2013 Tactical Improvements •  “Most Popular” badge •  Above the fold, simple feature call outs •  Highlight key package differences •  Feature differentiation by package •  Tiered package naming •  Simple CTAs •  Comparable monthly pricing shown 9
  • 10. Why does engagement matter? 10
  • 11. An engaged user is more likely to convert to a paid user, increase their spend over time, and less likely to cancel their usage of your product than an inactive, unengaged user. •  Do you agree or disagree w/ the statement above? 11
  • 13. But, how can we quantify how much engagement matters? And, how can we impact it? 13
  • 15. •  An example shows highly engaged users convert at 4x the rate of less engaged users -  Essentially all highly engaged users convert •  Heat map of conversion rates by engagement level: #  of  Responses  Collected More Less Less More #  of  Surveys  Deployed 15
  • 16. •  Introducing more features and use cases for products creates additional value •  For SurveyMonkey customers who sign up for a paid account, every additional paid feature they use results in a drop in their churn rate 1 Month Churn Rate High Zero Zero Number of Paid Features Used in First Month 16 Many
  • 17. How do you drive engagement? 17
  • 18. Driving engagement •  How do you integrate engagement campaigns into your metrics and roadmap? -  Identify: figure out what defines an “engaged” user -  Optimize: increase the % of users that “engage” -  Activate: cherry pick top prospects and help them succeed 18
  • 20. What are your engagement milestones? •  Start at the end -  When has a customer gotten value from your product? •  Now figure out how they got there -  What are the critical actions that customers go through to reach a full engagement milestone? 20
  • 21. Finding your end point •  When does your customer… -  Login, smile and say, “Wow, this is awesome. This just saved me a ton of time. This product was worth every penny, and I might even +1 or Like this company and tell a few colleagues how great this is. Yes SMB SaaS product, yes I will marry you!” 21
  • 22. Engagement variants •  Singular Objective Success Point -  1 main use case, or 1 main user type -  “Success” looks similar for nearly all users -  Ex: Nearly all SurveyMonkey users are trying to create a survey and get responses •  Variable Objective Success Points -  Multiple user types, varied “success” definitions -  Ex: Schoology (students, teachers, administrators, parents) all have different “success” definitions 22
  • 23. Example: SurveyMonkey engagement funnel •  What does it take for a user to engage? •  We identified that sending out a survey and getting responses was when a user derived value from our product -  We decided that more than just a few test responses was important •  And then we worked through the experience to figure out how they got there 23
  • 24. •  Sign up for an account 24
  • 25. •  Create a survey 25
  • 26. •  Add a question 26
  • 27. •  Begin collecting responses 27
  • 28. •  Gather responses Whoa! Awesome. I had no idea over 80% of my team had smart phones 28
  • 30. Establish baselines, measure results Reach Engagement Stage 1 % of New Users •  A metrics driven product agenda starts w/ a baseline understanding of the status quo •  Then tests w/ various experiments to see where it can drive measurable impact •  Lather, rinse, repeat Something worked here Reach Engagement Stage 2 Reach Engagement Stage 3 Reach Engagement Stage 4 Conversion Rate Time 30 Conversion Rate Time
  • 31. What works? •  Long term engagement wins are rarely easy •  Engagement needs to be a success metric that is factored in to product and marketing goals •  Features designed with engagement in mind can increase engagement 31
  • 32. Engaging onboarding experiences •  Are designed to get users through the engagement process •  Checklists, gaming elements like profile strength are useful for both users and your business intelligence 32
  • 33. Engagement shortcuts don’t exist •  There aren’t nearly as many tactics to better engage users as there are to convert them •  You need to earn your engagement, shortcuts lead to red herrings that don’t materialize in conversion 33
  • 35. Are all users created equal? •  We all know, the answer is no •  There are big fish swimming in your pond, and with the right engagement strategy, they will be massive customers 35
  • 36. Do you optimize for big fish? Or all fish? •  Your best customers might be worth 10x your average customer •  Are you activating your 10x’rs to make sure they stick around? 36
  • 37. How much are your best customers worth? •  Certain models necessitate cherry picking top customers to ensure engagement •  If 10% of your customers have the potential to drive 10x+ annual revenue value, you can replicate (or exceed) subscription economics 37
  • 38. •  SurveyMonkey Audience customers transact differently than monthly subscription customers •  They buy projects, so some of them don’t come back •  But those who do, are incredibly valuable Cumulative Revenue Avg. Year 1 Revenue from Repeat Customers Avg. Year 1 Revenue from ALL Customers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Month * Actual numbers are confidential, this chart is intended to show the relative impact * Repeat customers includes any customer that purchased in month 1 and any successive month •  ` 38 9 10 11 12
  • 39. How do you activate your best customers? •  The million, or maybe billion $ question •  Engagement for 10xrs has even bigger implications -  Special programs to ensure they move through the engagement funnel are critical -  Resourcing to ensure customers w/ $20k+ potential are successful will often pay huge dividends -  And the knowledge of what success means is critical 39
  • 41. Acknowledgements •  The SurveyMonkey Business Intelligence team provided all the important data for this report •  They provide all the data and insights that help SurveyMonkey make great decisions, and they are abnormally cool people, which means we get to have quite a bit of fun while we are at it •  Thank you BI, you rock 41