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Raymond Carver VS. John Cheever
THE MIDDLE CLASS
And How It is Portrayed
• Both Authors are from the Middle Class and Write about
  Suburban Life (King)

• “Mythic Middle Class” (McPhillips)
  • Neddy’s Journey


• Keeping Up Appearances (Bosha)
  • Aspiring to an alternate version of reality




Middle Class
REALITY VERSUS PERCEPTION
Themes in “The Swimmer” and “Cathedral”
• Self Centricity
  •   Carver’s speaker is only concerned about how things affect him
  •   Neddy is so self-absorbed that he constructs his own version of reality



• Subjectivity of Reality
  • Neddy defies reality, refusing to accept the past
      • Ambiguity of time (eNotes.com)


  • Inability to talk about love
      • What love is


  • Seeing versus understanding
      • Narrator describing cathedral to Blind man
      • Meaning separate from sight?




Reality and Perception
• Ideas of Race
    • Names bearing ideas of Character (Hall)


 • Distrust of Narrative
    • Exchanging tapes
    • Neddy’s misconception time


 • Emphasizing Surface Detail (May)
    • Why is the surface important?




Reality and Perception
• Why is it important that both narratives are set in
   the middle class?

 • How important is sight (or any other sense) to
   reality?

 • Is there a literal version of reality? Or is it
   subjective? Why?

 • What is the significance of the appearance of
   marijuana in “Cathedral?” How is drug use relevant
   when discussing ideas of perception?


Discussion Questions
Works Cited
Bosha, Francis J, ed. The Critical Response to John Cheever. Westport: Greenwood Press, 1994.
Print.

Burhans, Clinton S. Jr. "John Cheever and the Grave of Social Coherence." Twentieth Century
Literature 14.4 (1969): 187-198. JSTOR. Web. 17 Apr. 2012.

Current-Garcia, Eugene. "The Swimmer: Overview." Reference Guide to American Literature. Ed.
Jim Kamp. 3rd ed. Detroit: St. James Press, 1994. Literature Resource Center. Web. 17 Apr. 2012.

Hall, Vanessa. "Racial Imaginings in Raymond Carver's Short Stories and in American Culture."
Mosaic 43.4 (n.d.): 87-102. Gale Databases. Web. 24 April 2012.

"John Cheever The Swimmer Criticism." enotes.com. eNotes, n.d. Web. 3 Apr. 2012.
<http://www.enotes.com/swimmer-criticism/swimmer-john-cheever>

King, Stephen. “Raymond Carver’s Life and Stories.” nytimes.com. The New York Times. 19 Apr.
2009. Web. 24 April 2012. < http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/books/review/King-
t.html?pagewanted=all>

May, Charles E. "'Do You See What I'm Saying?': The Inadequacy of Exaplanation and the Uses of
Story in the Short Fiction of Raymond Carver." The Yearbook of English Studies , Vol. 31. (2001), pp.
39-49. Web.

McPhillips, Robert. "Suburbia and Its Discontents." The Sewanee Review 97.2 (1989): 293-296.
JSTOR. Web. 3 Apr. 2012.

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Carver vs. cheever power point

  • 1. Raymond Carver VS. John Cheever
  • 2. THE MIDDLE CLASS And How It is Portrayed
  • 3. • Both Authors are from the Middle Class and Write about Suburban Life (King) • “Mythic Middle Class” (McPhillips) • Neddy’s Journey • Keeping Up Appearances (Bosha) • Aspiring to an alternate version of reality Middle Class
  • 4. REALITY VERSUS PERCEPTION Themes in “The Swimmer” and “Cathedral”
  • 5. • Self Centricity • Carver’s speaker is only concerned about how things affect him • Neddy is so self-absorbed that he constructs his own version of reality • Subjectivity of Reality • Neddy defies reality, refusing to accept the past • Ambiguity of time (eNotes.com) • Inability to talk about love • What love is • Seeing versus understanding • Narrator describing cathedral to Blind man • Meaning separate from sight? Reality and Perception
  • 6. • Ideas of Race • Names bearing ideas of Character (Hall) • Distrust of Narrative • Exchanging tapes • Neddy’s misconception time • Emphasizing Surface Detail (May) • Why is the surface important? Reality and Perception
  • 7. • Why is it important that both narratives are set in the middle class? • How important is sight (or any other sense) to reality? • Is there a literal version of reality? Or is it subjective? Why? • What is the significance of the appearance of marijuana in “Cathedral?” How is drug use relevant when discussing ideas of perception? Discussion Questions
  • 8. Works Cited Bosha, Francis J, ed. The Critical Response to John Cheever. Westport: Greenwood Press, 1994. Print. Burhans, Clinton S. Jr. "John Cheever and the Grave of Social Coherence." Twentieth Century Literature 14.4 (1969): 187-198. JSTOR. Web. 17 Apr. 2012. Current-Garcia, Eugene. "The Swimmer: Overview." Reference Guide to American Literature. Ed. Jim Kamp. 3rd ed. Detroit: St. James Press, 1994. Literature Resource Center. Web. 17 Apr. 2012. Hall, Vanessa. "Racial Imaginings in Raymond Carver's Short Stories and in American Culture." Mosaic 43.4 (n.d.): 87-102. Gale Databases. Web. 24 April 2012. "John Cheever The Swimmer Criticism." enotes.com. eNotes, n.d. Web. 3 Apr. 2012. <http://www.enotes.com/swimmer-criticism/swimmer-john-cheever> King, Stephen. “Raymond Carver’s Life and Stories.” nytimes.com. The New York Times. 19 Apr. 2009. Web. 24 April 2012. < http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/books/review/King- t.html?pagewanted=all> May, Charles E. "'Do You See What I'm Saying?': The Inadequacy of Exaplanation and the Uses of Story in the Short Fiction of Raymond Carver." The Yearbook of English Studies , Vol. 31. (2001), pp. 39-49. Web. McPhillips, Robert. "Suburbia and Its Discontents." The Sewanee Review 97.2 (1989): 293-296. JSTOR. Web. 3 Apr. 2012.