Constitutional education-- American Government-- The rational reasoning and rebuttal to the Article V Convention. James Madison letter voicing his deep concern.

1. Article V Convention
“AKA”
“Convention of the States”
“AKA”
Con-Con-Con !
Madison’s Warning
2 November 1788
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“Any thing changed is no
longer the same”
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2. Q: Does our Constitution already provide for
controlling federal malfeasance?
A: Yes. It lists the purposes for which Congress is responsible. Jurisdiction is
limited by the “enumerated powers” listed in the Constitution:
• If it’s on the list: With powers delegated to Congress or the President,
Congress may lawfully appropriate funds for listed powers. Read the
Constitution and highlight the few basic delegated powers – then you will know
what Congress may lawfully appropriate funding for.
• If it’s not on the list: Congress may not lawfully create agencies, programs or
spend money on it.
Editors Note: The “Change within the Form” or “Hegelian Dialect” process is at work here. The
Constitution is not in crisis. society has been corrupted to provide opportunity for “traitorous
and fictitious” solutions by use of willing dupes, as well as the manner of man that lurks within
our halls of government. many corrupt “change agent” groups slouch outside Government. Stories
abound of societally manipulative people who have had damaging effect on civil society while
espousing “the Common Good.” Past experience illustrates well the attempts to weaken the
Constitution. Vigilance is our best ally. Many on the Change agent list are suspect hidden agenda
operations. Review the Biographical information from many sites to arrive at your own conclusion.

3. Q: What is the connection between the Standing
Constitution and the dangers of a “Con”-“Con”
the Father of the U.S. Constitution,
James Madison, wrote this warning on November 2, 1788, against calling another general
constitutional convention. Quoting:
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"If a General Convention were to take place for the avowed and sole purpose of revising the
Constitution, it would:
naturally consider itself as having a greater latitude than the Congress appointed to
administer and support as well as to amend the system;
it would consequently give greater agitation to the public mind;
an election into it would be courted by the most violent partisans on both sides;
it would probably consist of the most heterogeneous characters;
would be the very focus of that “flame” which has already too “much heated men” of all
parties;
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4. Q: What is the connection between the Standing
Constitution and the dangers of a “Con”-“Con”
the Father of the U.S. Constitution, Cont.
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James Madison, wrote this warning on November 2, 1788, against calling another general
constitutional convention. Quoting continued:
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A Convention: would no doubt contain “individuals of insidious views”, who under the mask of
seeking alterations popular in some parts but inadmissible in other parts of the Union might
have a dangerous opportunity of “sapping the very foundations of the fabric”.
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"Under all these circumstances it seems scarcely to be presumable that the deliberations of the
body could be “conducted in harmony”, or “terminate in the general good”.
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Having witnessed the difficulties and dangers experienced by the first Convention which
assembled under every propitious circumstance, I should tremble for the result of a Second,
meeting, in the present temper of America, and under all the disadvantages I have mentioned.”

5. Q: What is the connection between the Standing
Constitution and the dangers of a “Con”-“Con”
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Madison’s Warnings
Examined by point
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“Con”-“Con” Would naturally consider itself as having a greater latitude than
the Congress appointed to administer and support as well as to amend the
system; !
A.that's exactly what the Con Con advocates want:
a convention to do what Congress won't do. In many cases also what
Congress should not do. Amendments,Well intended, but ill-written, or
worse, manipulated by nefarious parties have alone created incalculable
Damage to Constitutional Government. The 17th Amendment is a classic
example. we determine to be steadfast in rebutting the false calls for a
“CON” - “CON- “CON”

6. Q: WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE STANDING
CONSTITUTION AND THE DANGERS OF A “CON”-“CON”
Madison’s Warnings
Examined By Point Cont.
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It would consequently give “greater agitation to the public mind”;
A. Indeed, a Con Con would invariably attract dozens of groups
agitating for various changes, creating a bigger media event
even than a presidential election and dominated by
Mainstream Media and theatrical demonstrators.
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Election to it would be “courted by the most violent partisans on both sides”
B. .Although congress would be in charge of the numbers and
apportionment of Con Con delegates, their election would
surely attract "violent partisans on both sides" of many
issues. !
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7. Q: WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE STANDING
CONSTITUTION AND THE DANGERS OF A “CON”-“CON”
Madison’s Warnings
Examined By PointCont.
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it would probably consist of the “most heterogeneous” characters;
Note: heterogenous Defined: Collection of: Mixed, Disparate, Multifarious, mixed, motley.
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A.The Con Con would invariably consist of the most heterogeneous
characters . . . “heated men of all parties." Think big: a repeat
performance of “Occupy Movement” "Organizing for America,”
“Communist Party USA”, “Anti-private Property rights”, “anti
religious rights”, “1968 Democratic Convention”, “Use of
politically Correct Doctrine”, “The De-Population movement”,
“Socialists,” “Communists”.Well, you get endless opportunities.
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“radical interests of any and every kind”
The list of agitators and clowns grows becoming a warning sign in
an of itself

8. Q: What is the connection between the Standing
Constitution and the dangers of a “Con”-“Con”
Madison’s Warnings
Examined By Point Cont.
would be the “very focus” of “that flame” which has “already too much heated
men of all parties;”This Sentence by Madison is so clear as to need no
explanation for we have seen duels, lynchings, slander, corruption, none of
which would be solved by “Change within the Form.” for none of these crises
was caused by the Constitution, but by the flawed common member of the
political organization.
Editors note: In summation, the key point Madison was making,
with the experience to back it up was:
The amendment process Amends-- On the other hand, a Constitutional
Convention, removing, or worse, changing the Constitutions construct
would in any case, open “without Crises” Pandora’s Box. The
possibilities for the realization of Madison’s fears would truly be
Prophetic words For The United States to dies by.

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The Perfect Example
Of
Constitution not the problem, “Con Coning” it is
The framers of the Constitution, and Bill of Rights, were unique in the History of the world, and
had all seen Repression of many kinds.Their understanding of other countries benefits and
failings manifested in the Documents of our Countries founding.
Attempts to weaken these most valuable documents began not long after the ink dried.
In discussing one devastating example: 17th Amendment -1913
When Senators from the States became elected by popular vote, instead of being
chosen and controlled by the States various Legislatures, the floodgates opened to
what we have today in our present Government operations. Accountability was lost:
Result, is graft, lobbying, no state control of decisions. This was a planned result.
That single step-fix a non-crisis - deceived were the public, but well understood by
the political manipulators, was a Devastating step. This process is today called:
Hegelian Dialect:.Prepare end goal—create crisis-elevate crisis-propose prepared solution - implement
prepared solution - repeat— In the 17th Amendment case, a procedural problem, not a crisis, allowed the
change agents use of the Dialect to accomplish destruction of 1/3 of States powers of control over the
Federal Government..
On the other hand removing unconstitutional items simply does not even take
amendments, but resolve and understanding of Nullification-10th Amendment

10. Q: Would a BBA fix the Constitution?
( Balanced Budget Amendment )
A: None address the cause of the problem: Congress spends where they have no constitutional authority
to spend.The BBAs don’t eliminate the unconstitutional spending; and they place no limits on the amount
of the unconstitutional spending
Q: Is a BBA harmful?
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A: Yes. All versions of the BBA legalize spending which is now illegal and unconstitutional as outside the
scope of powers delegated to Congress or the President.
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Q: Would a BBA fundamentally transform our Constitution?
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A: Yes. All versions of the BBA amend out the enumerated powers limitations on the federal government
and transform the federal government into one of general & unlimited powers where the feds may spend
money on whatever they want as long as they don’t exceed the spending limits “imposed” by the BBA.
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Q: So a BBA changes the constitutional criterion for spending?
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A: Yes! All versions of the BBA ( balanced Budget Amendment ) change the criterion from:
• WHAT Congress spends money on (it must be an enumerated power), to
• A LIMIT on total spending, where Congress can spend the money on whatever they want.
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11. Q: WHAT IS THE “HIDDEN PURPOSE” OF
VERSIONS OF THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT?
A: The sole purpose is to remove the enumerated powers limitations on the
federal government and give it general & unlimited powers. Remember the all
important “we have a crisis to fix“ Government mantra. Total mis-information.
For more information on various versions of the BBA see:
1- Balancing the Budget? Or Adding A National Sales Tax To The Income Tax?
2- Why the balanced budget amendment is a hoax and a deadly trap
3- Why the balanced budget amendment is the worst idea ever
These three cogent dissertations are on
PubliusHuldah site.

12. Conclusions to draw from this discussion concerning
attempts to amend, or Force an Article V Convention
upon the Citizens of This Republic.
1. In educating oneself, the best method is to investigate the groups and or person
clambering for something. This is relevant to anything political, current, or historical. The
larger the list, the stronger the necessity of in depth investigation of the promoters.
2. In the case of the Constitution it should be readily apparent that the Constitution itself is
not the enemy, not living, and not the problem we are faced with. Political manipulation
through “Political Correctness”, or viewing history with current events mentality is. Some
political factions are in essence “religions” wear no uniform, but are relentless in altering
history to create a corrupt worldview. When the altered reality is in place, the crisis appears
3. The discussion of “Change within the Form” is relevant here precisely because in order to
force the Article V Convention, or amend the Constitution, there has to be a formulated
crisis. The solution is simple, but being maligned, to create the illusion of crisis.
4. The Constitution was so well conceived, and so well understood by use of “The Federalist
papers,” that it has withstood many attacks. The way to preserve the Constitution is to
study the words ( with a Noah Webster’s 1828 Dictionary ). In that study you will find the
10th amendment ( more commonly ) Nullification. Use it to fix a political problem created
by greed, power mongering, arrogance, and most of all “ money.” It’s the money honey.