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Evidence from Australian population studies of health and relationships
claimed: 
 women don’t really like 
sex 
 if they did, they would 
go cruising for 
anonymous sex like 
gay men 
 for women, sex is the 
price they pay to get a 
relationship
 Australian Study of Health 
and Relationships (ASHR) 
 Data collected 2001–02 
 19,307 men and women 
aged 16–59 
 Australian Longitudinal 
Study of Health and 
Relationships (LongSex) 
 Data collected over 5 
waves from 2005 to 2010 
 Wave 1 had 8656 people 
aged 16–64 
Both studies used random 
digit dialling to households
 sexual practices (manual, oral, vaginal sex) 
 physical pleasure in sex 
 emotional satisfaction with relationship 
 involvement over the previous year in: 
 masturbation 
 viewing pornography 
 using a sex toy (e.g. vibrator or dildo) 
 etc.
60 
50 
40 
30 
20 
10 
0 
Men 
Women
100 
90 
80 
70 
60 
50 
40 
30 
20 
10 
0 
<1 year 1–2 years 3–5 years 6–10 years 11–20 
years 
>20 years 
Men 
Women
60 
50 
40 
30 
20 
10 
0 
Men 
Women
100 
90 
80 
70 
60 
50 
40 
30 
20 
10 
0 
<1 year 1–2 years 3–5 years 6–10 years 11–20 
years 
>20 years 
Men 
Women
 Are women just harder to please? 
 Or are they less keen on sex because the sex 
they get is less good? 
 Declines in 50s may be physiological 
(menopause for women, erectile and arousal 
difficulties for men)
 At last heterosexual encounter, 95% of men but 
only 69% of women had an orgasm 
 Men had an orgasm in almost every encounter that 
included intercourse 
 In ‘intercourse-only’ encounters, only 50% of 
women had an orgasm 
 Women were more likely to have an orgasm in 
encounters that included manual and oral sex (esp. 
cunnilingus) 
 (76% of women having sex with a woman had an 
orgasm)
100 
90 
80 
70 
60 
50 
40 
30 
20 
10 
0 
<1 year 1–2 years 3–5 years 6–10 years 11–20 
years 
>20 years 
Men 
Women
70 
60 
50 
40 
30 
20 
10 
0 
Men 
Women
9000 
8000 
7000 
6000 
5000 
4000 
3000 
2000 
1000 
0 
Wave 1 Wave 2 Wave 3 Wave 4 Wave 5
25 
20 
15 
10 
5 
0 
Men Women 
Wave 1 
Wave 2 
Wave 3 
Wave 4 
Wave 5
40 
35 
30 
25 
20 
15 
10 
5 
0 
Men Women 
Wave 1 
Wave 2 
Wave 3 
Wave 4 
Wave 5
25 
20 
15 
10 
5 
0 
Men Women 
Wave 1 
Wave 2 
Wave 3 
Wave 4 
Wave 5
12 
10 
8 
6 
4 
2 
0 
Men Women 
Wave 1 
Wave 2 
Wave 3 
Wave 4 
Wave 5
 They masturbate more 
 They use more sex substitutes that do not 
involve a partner, e.g. watching other people 
having sex 
 Are they just wankers? 
 They report more sexual partners 
 They are more likely to cheat, i.e. have sex with 
an outside partner when in a supposedly 
exclusive relationship 
 Do they simply seek variety?
 Evolutionary theorists posit that males (any 
species) benefit by increasing their chance of 
successful reproduction 
 They always interpret this as meaning males 
seek to optimise insemination 
 Actually females in many species play around 
 Reproductive partner is not always the same 
as ‘social’ (e.g. nest-building) partner
 Evolutionary theorists of sex tend to ignore the other 
effects on successful reproduction 
 Offspring survival may be more crucial than number of 
conceptions 
 Factors: functioning of group, successful childbirth and 
breastfeeding, keeping children safe … 
 Women’s sexual responses may be selected for by child 
survival (e.g. breastfeeding, ease of childbirth) 
 This tends to be ignored by evo-theorists, who focus on 
the male contribution to reproduction (=impregnation) 
 Culturally, who defines what counts as ‘sex’?
 Stephen Fry and others are wrong 
 Women do go out looking for sex, but they 
tend to do it in safer group environments 
 Darling Harbour 
 backpacker hostels 
 residential colleges 
 Men make sex dangerous for women
‘Have you ever been 
forced or frightened by a 
male or female into 
doing something 
sexually that you did not 
want to do?’
 No evidence that men want sex and women 
want relationships. Men are more pleased 
with both 
 Men keener on sexual imagery (=non-sex?) 
 Sex theorists still promote stories that are not 
empirically supported 
 and tell women how they should be and what 
they should like
Juliet Richters (School of Public Health and 
Community Medicine, UNSW) 
Julia Shelley (Deakin U and Australian Research 
Centre in Sex, Health and Society, La Trobe U) 
Marian Pitts (ARCSHS) 
Anthony M A Smith (ARCSHS; led project 
until November 2012) 
Statistical analysis by Wendy Heywood 
(ARCSHS)
 Anthony M A Smith (ARCSHS; led project 
until November 2012) 
 Juliet Richters (School of Public Health 
and Community Medicine, UNSW) 
 Richard de Visser (University of Sussex) 
 Chris Rissel (University of Sydney) 
 Andrew Grulich (Kirby Institute, UNSW)
© Juliet Richters 2013 
Presented on 7 May 2013 to 7th Australian 
Women’s Health Conference, Sydney 
Juliet Richters BA, MPH, PhD 
Associate Professor in Sexual Health 
School of Public Health and Community Medicine 
University of New South Wales 
j.richters@unsw.edu.au

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1.6.3 a prof juliet richters

  • 1. Evidence from Australian population studies of health and relationships
  • 2. claimed:  women don’t really like sex  if they did, they would go cruising for anonymous sex like gay men  for women, sex is the price they pay to get a relationship
  • 3.
  • 4.  Australian Study of Health and Relationships (ASHR)  Data collected 2001–02  19,307 men and women aged 16–59  Australian Longitudinal Study of Health and Relationships (LongSex)  Data collected over 5 waves from 2005 to 2010  Wave 1 had 8656 people aged 16–64 Both studies used random digit dialling to households
  • 5.  sexual practices (manual, oral, vaginal sex)  physical pleasure in sex  emotional satisfaction with relationship  involvement over the previous year in:  masturbation  viewing pornography  using a sex toy (e.g. vibrator or dildo)  etc.
  • 6. 60 50 40 30 20 10 0 Men Women
  • 7. 100 90 80 70 60 50 40 30 20 10 0 <1 year 1–2 years 3–5 years 6–10 years 11–20 years >20 years Men Women
  • 8. 60 50 40 30 20 10 0 Men Women
  • 9. 100 90 80 70 60 50 40 30 20 10 0 <1 year 1–2 years 3–5 years 6–10 years 11–20 years >20 years Men Women
  • 10.  Are women just harder to please?  Or are they less keen on sex because the sex they get is less good?  Declines in 50s may be physiological (menopause for women, erectile and arousal difficulties for men)
  • 11.  At last heterosexual encounter, 95% of men but only 69% of women had an orgasm  Men had an orgasm in almost every encounter that included intercourse  In ‘intercourse-only’ encounters, only 50% of women had an orgasm  Women were more likely to have an orgasm in encounters that included manual and oral sex (esp. cunnilingus)  (76% of women having sex with a woman had an orgasm)
  • 12.
  • 13. 100 90 80 70 60 50 40 30 20 10 0 <1 year 1–2 years 3–5 years 6–10 years 11–20 years >20 years Men Women
  • 14. 70 60 50 40 30 20 10 0 Men Women
  • 15. 9000 8000 7000 6000 5000 4000 3000 2000 1000 0 Wave 1 Wave 2 Wave 3 Wave 4 Wave 5
  • 16. 25 20 15 10 5 0 Men Women Wave 1 Wave 2 Wave 3 Wave 4 Wave 5
  • 17. 40 35 30 25 20 15 10 5 0 Men Women Wave 1 Wave 2 Wave 3 Wave 4 Wave 5
  • 18. 25 20 15 10 5 0 Men Women Wave 1 Wave 2 Wave 3 Wave 4 Wave 5
  • 19. 12 10 8 6 4 2 0 Men Women Wave 1 Wave 2 Wave 3 Wave 4 Wave 5
  • 20.  They masturbate more  They use more sex substitutes that do not involve a partner, e.g. watching other people having sex  Are they just wankers?  They report more sexual partners  They are more likely to cheat, i.e. have sex with an outside partner when in a supposedly exclusive relationship  Do they simply seek variety?
  • 21.  Evolutionary theorists posit that males (any species) benefit by increasing their chance of successful reproduction  They always interpret this as meaning males seek to optimise insemination  Actually females in many species play around  Reproductive partner is not always the same as ‘social’ (e.g. nest-building) partner
  • 22.  Evolutionary theorists of sex tend to ignore the other effects on successful reproduction  Offspring survival may be more crucial than number of conceptions  Factors: functioning of group, successful childbirth and breastfeeding, keeping children safe …  Women’s sexual responses may be selected for by child survival (e.g. breastfeeding, ease of childbirth)  This tends to be ignored by evo-theorists, who focus on the male contribution to reproduction (=impregnation)  Culturally, who defines what counts as ‘sex’?
  • 23.  Stephen Fry and others are wrong  Women do go out looking for sex, but they tend to do it in safer group environments  Darling Harbour  backpacker hostels  residential colleges  Men make sex dangerous for women
  • 24. ‘Have you ever been forced or frightened by a male or female into doing something sexually that you did not want to do?’
  • 25.  No evidence that men want sex and women want relationships. Men are more pleased with both  Men keener on sexual imagery (=non-sex?)  Sex theorists still promote stories that are not empirically supported  and tell women how they should be and what they should like
  • 26. Juliet Richters (School of Public Health and Community Medicine, UNSW) Julia Shelley (Deakin U and Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health and Society, La Trobe U) Marian Pitts (ARCSHS) Anthony M A Smith (ARCSHS; led project until November 2012) Statistical analysis by Wendy Heywood (ARCSHS)
  • 27.  Anthony M A Smith (ARCSHS; led project until November 2012)  Juliet Richters (School of Public Health and Community Medicine, UNSW)  Richard de Visser (University of Sussex)  Chris Rissel (University of Sydney)  Andrew Grulich (Kirby Institute, UNSW)
  • 28. © Juliet Richters 2013 Presented on 7 May 2013 to 7th Australian Women’s Health Conference, Sydney Juliet Richters BA, MPH, PhD Associate Professor in Sexual Health School of Public Health and Community Medicine University of New South Wales j.richters@unsw.edu.au

Editor's Notes

  1. Do men seek sex and women seek love? Let’s see what the data tell us.
  2. ASHR data from 2001–02. Both men and women like the sex in their relationships a lot, but men are more likely to be extremely keen
  3. But the pattern over the course of the relationship is different. Men are less keen than women at the beginning, but once they settle in, they have much higher rates of finding the sex ‘extremely’ pleasurable. Not until the relationship is >20 years long do less than half say it’s extremely pleasurable. Figures from ASHR, surveyed 2001-02, n=19,307, response rate 73%
  4. Looking at emotional satisfaction with the relationship, the pattern is very similar. And within individuals, physical pleasure in sex and emotional satisfaction are highly correlated. We don’t know which way the causality goes; probably both ways
  5. Again we find women are much more positive in new relationships, though there is less difference between men and women and not the same clear decline for women as they reported for physical pleasure. Not much evidence here for women being the only ones who are in it for the emotional relationship. And it’s true that men are slower to commit. Figures from ASHR, surveyed 2001-02, n=19,307, response rate 73%
  6. Wave 1, LongSex, n = 8,656. Less than 0.5% refused for each q [ASHR figs for mastbn]
  7. Drop-outs were disproportionately younger and less settled, i.e. not in long-term relationships
  8. Over the period 2005 to 2010, more people got access to the internet and online sites proliferated. This had little effect on women.
  9. This went down slowly for both men and women. Was probably being replaced by internet sex sites to some extent.
  10. Hard to know what this means, as probably more women used toys for masturbation and more men used them in partnered sex. But overall, more women than men used sex toys and the trend was a rise over the 5 years.
  11. This minority partnered sexual practice dropped a bit after the departure of the younger more adventurous LFU Wave 1 participants, but thereafter did not change much. Slight rise and slightly higher rate for men overall. But then men always report a bit more of things, e.g. they report more cunnilingus than women report receiving.
  12. The righthand pair of bars is from ASHR, which is similar to other national surveys e.g. the US. Four times as many women have been sexually coerced as men. The lefthand pair is from a survey of prisoners using ASHR questions and refers to experiences outside jail. Coercion, especially repeated experiences, correlates with various measures of reduced wellbeing. Women are not safe in anonymous sex situations.
  13. It is not just journalists who tell us how we should be. Sex researchers do it too.