This document provides an agenda for a motivational interviewing training covering weeks 4 and 5. Week 4 focuses on ambivalence versus resistance, sustain talk, discord, change talk, developing discrepancy, and decisional balance. Techniques like decisional balance, readiness rulers, importance rulers and confidence rulers are discussed as ways to explore ambivalence. The week 5 learning activity involves using one of these techniques to have a conversation about change with a client and discussing the experience.