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About Iron Edison
• 7+ years of battery system and battery-
based solar PV system design experience
• 500+ battery systems sold
• Working with 1,400+ Partners across the
country to successfully install and
commission battery-based systems
Battery-Based Solar PV Systems
• Grid-Tie with Battery Backup
• Residential
• Commercial
• Industrial / Utility
• AC Coupled
• DC Coupled
• Grid Backup
• Typically Residential
• DC Coupled
Grid-Tie with Battery Backup
• Operates like a Grid-Tie system most of the time
(when the grid is online)
• Critical loads are backed up (when the grid is down)
PV array
inverter/
charger
AC service
panel
AC utility
meter
grid
charge
controller
battery
inverter
AC distribution
panel
Grid-Tie with Battery Backup
Normal operation (day)
PV array
inverter/
charger
AC service
panel
AC utility
meter
grid
charge
controller
battery
inverter
AC distribution
panel
Grid-Tie with Battery Backup
Normal operation (night)
PV array
inverter/
charger
AC service
panel
AC utility
meter
grid
charge
controller
battery
inverter
AC distribution
panel
Grid-Tie with Battery Backup
Grid is down (day)
PV array
inverter/
charger
AC service
panel
AC utility
meter
grid
charge
controller
battery
inverter
AC distribution
panel
Grid-Tie with Battery Backup
Grid is down (night)
PV array
inverter/
charger
AC service
panel
AC utility
meter
grid
charge
controller
battery
inverter
AC distribution
panel
Grid-Tie with Battery Backup
Grid is down (day)
• Like Grid-Tie inverters, Battery-Based
inverters have an anti-islanding feature
• An internal automatic transfer switch (K1, K2)
prevents back-feeding to the grid
• The automatic transfer
switch also allows either
AC1 (grid) or AC2 (gen)
to be connected to the
inverter input, but not
both simultaneously
Grid Backup
PV array
inverter/
charger
AC service
panel
AC utility
meter
grid
charge
controller
battery
inverter
AC distribution
panel
• Grid powers main panel; renewables power sub-panel
• Solar energy is never fed to the grid
• Grid is present as a backup
Grid Backup
PV array
inverter/
charger
AC service
panel
AC utility
meter
grid
charge
controller
battery
inverter
AC distribution
panel
Normal operation (day)
Grid Backup
PV array
inverter/
charger
AC service
panel
AC utility
meter
grid
charge
controller
battery
inverter
AC distribution
panel
Normal operation (night)
Grid Backup
PV array
inverter/
charger
AC service
panel
AC utility
meter
grid
charge
controller
battery
inverter
AC distribution
panel
Low battery
AC Coupled
• Allows for Grid-Tie solar retrofit
• Does not allow for Grid Backup system set-up
PV array
battery-based
inverter/
charger
main panel
AC utility
meter grid
battery
sub-panel
GT inverter
AC Coupled
PV array
battery-based
inverter/
charger
main panel
AC utility
meter grid
battery
sub-panel
GT inverter
Normal operation: GT inverter powers loads and
exports excess power to the grid
AC Coupled
PV array
battery-based inverter/ charger
sub-panel
GT inverter
AC1 =
connection to
main panel
K1 closed in normal operation
AC Coupled
PV array
battery-based
inverter/
charger
main panel
AC utility
meter grid
battery
sub-panel
GT inverter
Grid is down: battery-based inverter and battery
allow for GT inverter’s continued operation
AC Coupled
PV array
battery-based inverter/ charger
sub-panel
GT inverter
AC1 =
connection to
main panel
K1 opens
Grid is down: the battery-based inverter is
responsible for the anti-islanding feature
• Lead Acid (sealed/AGM)
– No maintenance
– No off-gassing
– ~1,500 cycles at 30% DOD
• Lead Acid (wet/flooded)
– Regular maintenance (watering)
– Off-gasses hydrogen gas
– ~2,000 cycles at 30% DOD
Battery Types - conventional
• Nickel Iron
– Regular maintenance (watering)
– Irregular maintenance (electrolyte refresh)
– Off-gases hydrogen gas
– 11,000+ cycles at 80% DOD
• Lithium Iron Phosphate
– No maintenance
– No off-gassing
– 5,000+ cycles at 50% DOD
Battery Types - alternative
• Long life
– 11,000 cycles at 80% DOD
– Batteries cycled daily last over 30
years (11,000 ÷ 365 = 30.1 yrs)
• Deep discharge
– 80% recommended DOD
– More useable capacity than most
other battery types
– Deep discharge has no negative
impact on batteries
Nickel Iron
• Nearly indestructible
▫ Operating temperature range: -22°F through 194°F
▫ Tolerant of over-charge and over-discharge
▫ The battery’s alkaline electrolyte acts as a metal preservative
• Ideal for solar storage
– C/5 charge rate works well with average 5 peak sun-
hours
• Compatible with most major brands
– Magnum Energy, Schneider Electric, OutBack Power,
MidNite Solar, SMA (Sunny Island)
• High charge voltage
– Charges at 1.65 Volts per cell
– Drop a cell when charging from inverter/charger
Nickel Iron (continued)
• Safest lithium chemistry
– LiFePO4 is chemically stable
• Active cell management
– Battery Management System
(BMS) included
• High energy density
• Efficient (95%)
• Compatible with most
major brands
• Cycle life affected like lead
acid
Lithium Iron Phosphate

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Solar & Battery presentation

  • 1.
  • 2. About Iron Edison • 7+ years of battery system and battery- based solar PV system design experience • 500+ battery systems sold • Working with 1,400+ Partners across the country to successfully install and commission battery-based systems
  • 3. Battery-Based Solar PV Systems • Grid-Tie with Battery Backup • Residential • Commercial • Industrial / Utility • AC Coupled • DC Coupled • Grid Backup • Typically Residential • DC Coupled
  • 4. Grid-Tie with Battery Backup • Operates like a Grid-Tie system most of the time (when the grid is online) • Critical loads are backed up (when the grid is down) PV array inverter/ charger AC service panel AC utility meter grid charge controller battery inverter AC distribution panel
  • 5. Grid-Tie with Battery Backup Normal operation (day) PV array inverter/ charger AC service panel AC utility meter grid charge controller battery inverter AC distribution panel
  • 6. Grid-Tie with Battery Backup Normal operation (night) PV array inverter/ charger AC service panel AC utility meter grid charge controller battery inverter AC distribution panel
  • 7. Grid-Tie with Battery Backup Grid is down (day) PV array inverter/ charger AC service panel AC utility meter grid charge controller battery inverter AC distribution panel
  • 8. Grid-Tie with Battery Backup Grid is down (night) PV array inverter/ charger AC service panel AC utility meter grid charge controller battery inverter AC distribution panel
  • 9. Grid-Tie with Battery Backup Grid is down (day) • Like Grid-Tie inverters, Battery-Based inverters have an anti-islanding feature • An internal automatic transfer switch (K1, K2) prevents back-feeding to the grid • The automatic transfer switch also allows either AC1 (grid) or AC2 (gen) to be connected to the inverter input, but not both simultaneously
  • 10. Grid Backup PV array inverter/ charger AC service panel AC utility meter grid charge controller battery inverter AC distribution panel • Grid powers main panel; renewables power sub-panel • Solar energy is never fed to the grid • Grid is present as a backup
  • 11. Grid Backup PV array inverter/ charger AC service panel AC utility meter grid charge controller battery inverter AC distribution panel Normal operation (day)
  • 12. Grid Backup PV array inverter/ charger AC service panel AC utility meter grid charge controller battery inverter AC distribution panel Normal operation (night)
  • 13. Grid Backup PV array inverter/ charger AC service panel AC utility meter grid charge controller battery inverter AC distribution panel Low battery
  • 14. AC Coupled • Allows for Grid-Tie solar retrofit • Does not allow for Grid Backup system set-up PV array battery-based inverter/ charger main panel AC utility meter grid battery sub-panel GT inverter
  • 15. AC Coupled PV array battery-based inverter/ charger main panel AC utility meter grid battery sub-panel GT inverter Normal operation: GT inverter powers loads and exports excess power to the grid
  • 16. AC Coupled PV array battery-based inverter/ charger sub-panel GT inverter AC1 = connection to main panel K1 closed in normal operation
  • 17. AC Coupled PV array battery-based inverter/ charger main panel AC utility meter grid battery sub-panel GT inverter Grid is down: battery-based inverter and battery allow for GT inverter’s continued operation
  • 18. AC Coupled PV array battery-based inverter/ charger sub-panel GT inverter AC1 = connection to main panel K1 opens Grid is down: the battery-based inverter is responsible for the anti-islanding feature
  • 19. • Lead Acid (sealed/AGM) – No maintenance – No off-gassing – ~1,500 cycles at 30% DOD • Lead Acid (wet/flooded) – Regular maintenance (watering) – Off-gasses hydrogen gas – ~2,000 cycles at 30% DOD Battery Types - conventional
  • 20. • Nickel Iron – Regular maintenance (watering) – Irregular maintenance (electrolyte refresh) – Off-gases hydrogen gas – 11,000+ cycles at 80% DOD • Lithium Iron Phosphate – No maintenance – No off-gassing – 5,000+ cycles at 50% DOD Battery Types - alternative
  • 21. • Long life – 11,000 cycles at 80% DOD – Batteries cycled daily last over 30 years (11,000 ÷ 365 = 30.1 yrs) • Deep discharge – 80% recommended DOD – More useable capacity than most other battery types – Deep discharge has no negative impact on batteries Nickel Iron • Nearly indestructible ▫ Operating temperature range: -22°F through 194°F ▫ Tolerant of over-charge and over-discharge ▫ The battery’s alkaline electrolyte acts as a metal preservative
  • 22. • Ideal for solar storage – C/5 charge rate works well with average 5 peak sun- hours • Compatible with most major brands – Magnum Energy, Schneider Electric, OutBack Power, MidNite Solar, SMA (Sunny Island) • High charge voltage – Charges at 1.65 Volts per cell – Drop a cell when charging from inverter/charger Nickel Iron (continued)
  • 23. • Safest lithium chemistry – LiFePO4 is chemically stable • Active cell management – Battery Management System (BMS) included • High energy density • Efficient (95%) • Compatible with most major brands • Cycle life affected like lead acid Lithium Iron Phosphate

Editor's Notes

  1. FYI this is a DC COUPLED architecture. Let’s start with the concept and revisit DC Coupled VS AC Coupled later. Residential and Commercial systems operate in the same way
  2. Batteries are kept topped off and solar energy mostly goes to loads or grid
  3. Inverter AC distribution panel loads are fed by grid when battery reaches certain pre-programmed setpoint (can be high voltage-FULL or lower voltage – we can revisit Grid BACKUP concept later)
  4. Just like a GT inverter, Battery-Based inverters have an anti-islanding feature and internal automatic transfer switch
  5. Depending on the size of your battery, your inverter’s AC distribution panel could remain powered to last through the night or more.
  6. Just like a GT inverter, Battery-Based inverters have an anti-islanding feature and internal automatic transfer switch
  7. PROs = lessen the burden on the grid’s infrastructure (typically incurred with GT systems) CONs = ‘masked’ loads
  8. If loads on inverter AC distribution panel are less than available power from DC sources, then net excess power from DC source is not converted and NOT exported to the grid
  9. ‘masked’ loads – the utility is unaware of loads on the inverter AC distribution panel that are typically powered by the renewable energy system; demand and consumption at the residence in a ‘Low Batt’ scenario are higher than what the utility expected
  10. Image is flipped
  11. GT inverter immediately disconnects (anti-islanding feature) and BB inverter AUTOMATICALLY starts powering critical loads. It takes 5 minutes for the GT inverter to reconnect after the BB inverter starts mimicking the grid signal.
  12. Image is flipped
  13. The battery is the HEART of the battery-based PV system Off-gassing  store in vented battery box with vent fan
  14. The battery is the HEART of the battery-based PV system Nickel Iron = Alkaline Chemistry; Electrolyte = potassium hydroxide with lithium hydroxide; Nickel Iron is also a lot more ROBUST
  15. Solar as a charge source: 3-stage charging (bulk, absorb, float) / Grid or Gen as charge source: 2-stage charging (bulk, absorb) More sensitive to over-charge and over-discharge More similar to Lead acid cycle life = 2,000 cycles at 80% DOD