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Let’s Talk
About
Green
Dr Beth Montague-Hellen, Francis Crick Institute
Dr Katie Fraser, University of Nottingham
Setting the scene – what do we mean by
green?
 Author deposits post-print text in general repository (e.g. ePMC)
 Author deposits post-print text in institutional repository
 Author deposits post-print text in commercial repository (e.g. researchgate)
 Publisher makes text open and then deposits it in repository
 Author deposits pre-print text on pre-print server/repository
Self archiving
Computer
Scientists self
archiving via ftp
Subversive
Proposal
Stevan Harnad formally
proposed online posting
as a publication method
Sherpa Romeo
Sherpa Romeo develops colour coding
system. Green, Blue and Yellow all
describe some form of self archiving.
REF OA policy
REF required that all
submitted publications
were OA. Green was the
primary mechanism.
2016
2004
1994
1980
s
Design by Slidesgo
2018
Plan S
Both Green & Gold lead to
compliance. But the race
to flip journals has in
some cases sidelined
Green.
The history of Green OA
Green tinted glasses
– where's the vision?
 Radically open
o Grass roots & community organised
o Removing financial barriers
 Expansion of content
o Green & Grey
o Preprints and Working Papers
o Theses
 Stewardship of content
o Discipline versus institutional collections
o Local context-themed collections
o Evolving standards
Image by Nadar, used under CC BY-NC-ND 2.0 licence
Local context: Which Green do we
prioritise?
 University of Nottingham  Francis Crick Institute
Policy swings
Green
2016 – REF2020/1
prioritises Green, Gold
initially described as an
“exception”.
Gold
2012 – Finch report
Leans towards Gold, as does
RCUK OA policy which
follows in 2013.
2021 – UKRI OA policy.
Allows Green and Gold
compliant routes.
2018 - Plan S – Allows both
Gold & Green, but
prioritisation of 'flipping'
journals foregrounds Gold.
2023 - Towards responsible
publishing (Plan S v2).
Radically Green or beyond?
2024 – REF 2029 OA
consultation. Reconnects
Green with embargoes.
Where does Green sits among other
models?
Green or Gold: A false dichotomy?
 Jisc report shows
Global Green +
Gold as low. But is
it in the UK?
COKI OA dashboard gives a
different picture
United Kingdom
USA
Indonesia
China
Japan
Nigeria
COKI OA dashboard gives a different
picture
University of Nottingham Francis Crick Institute
Do researchers dislike Green? How much is
based on appearances?
 What's the goal: Prestige vs information
 AAM: "last version sent to the publishers" can be confusing
o butLaTeX & templates can make the green version just as attractive
Do researchers dislike Green? How much is
based on appearances?
 What's the goal: Prestige vs information
 AAM: "last version sent to the publishers" can be confusing
o But LaTeX & templates can make the green version just as attractive
 In future: Generative AI may have us consuming content from articles without ever seeing the format
 Research quality should be the main thing for researchers
Is Green a parasite? Would a Green landscape kill publishers?
"Yes – I think it's a risk but one
scholarly comms should take"
 Going pure Green could kill publisher
business models
 We need infrastructure and services but is
that a “publisher”?
 Publishing needs to match disciplinary
requirements, not one-size-fits-all
"No – but publishers might
need to change"
• Publishing as a way of collecting and collating
content
• Alternative funding models e.g. publishing as
a service
• More specific & society publishers rather than
megaliths (sorry to the megalith publishers in
the audience)
We're in agreement that
publishers need to evolve
in order to avoid the risks
created by Green.
Conclusions
 What's important to an actual researcher and does Green
serve that (or not)?
 We want a heterogenous system with different options for
different disciplines that doesn’t cost the world (in either
sense).
 We need Green to be more respected. Improved discovery
and Generative AI will ensure our focus is on the
information.
 Green could become redundant, but it feels a long way
down the line.

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UKSG 2024 Plenary 2 - Let's Talk About Green

  • 1. Let’s Talk About Green Dr Beth Montague-Hellen, Francis Crick Institute Dr Katie Fraser, University of Nottingham
  • 2. Setting the scene – what do we mean by green?  Author deposits post-print text in general repository (e.g. ePMC)  Author deposits post-print text in institutional repository  Author deposits post-print text in commercial repository (e.g. researchgate)  Publisher makes text open and then deposits it in repository  Author deposits pre-print text on pre-print server/repository
  • 3. Self archiving Computer Scientists self archiving via ftp Subversive Proposal Stevan Harnad formally proposed online posting as a publication method Sherpa Romeo Sherpa Romeo develops colour coding system. Green, Blue and Yellow all describe some form of self archiving. REF OA policy REF required that all submitted publications were OA. Green was the primary mechanism. 2016 2004 1994 1980 s Design by Slidesgo 2018 Plan S Both Green & Gold lead to compliance. But the race to flip journals has in some cases sidelined Green. The history of Green OA
  • 4. Green tinted glasses – where's the vision?  Radically open o Grass roots & community organised o Removing financial barriers  Expansion of content o Green & Grey o Preprints and Working Papers o Theses  Stewardship of content o Discipline versus institutional collections o Local context-themed collections o Evolving standards Image by Nadar, used under CC BY-NC-ND 2.0 licence
  • 5. Local context: Which Green do we prioritise?  University of Nottingham  Francis Crick Institute
  • 6. Policy swings Green 2016 – REF2020/1 prioritises Green, Gold initially described as an “exception”. Gold 2012 – Finch report Leans towards Gold, as does RCUK OA policy which follows in 2013. 2021 – UKRI OA policy. Allows Green and Gold compliant routes. 2018 - Plan S – Allows both Gold & Green, but prioritisation of 'flipping' journals foregrounds Gold. 2023 - Towards responsible publishing (Plan S v2). Radically Green or beyond? 2024 – REF 2029 OA consultation. Reconnects Green with embargoes.
  • 7. Where does Green sits among other models?
  • 8. Green or Gold: A false dichotomy?  Jisc report shows Global Green + Gold as low. But is it in the UK?
  • 9. COKI OA dashboard gives a different picture United Kingdom USA Indonesia China Japan Nigeria
  • 10. COKI OA dashboard gives a different picture University of Nottingham Francis Crick Institute
  • 11. Do researchers dislike Green? How much is based on appearances?  What's the goal: Prestige vs information  AAM: "last version sent to the publishers" can be confusing o butLaTeX & templates can make the green version just as attractive
  • 12. Do researchers dislike Green? How much is based on appearances?  What's the goal: Prestige vs information  AAM: "last version sent to the publishers" can be confusing o But LaTeX & templates can make the green version just as attractive  In future: Generative AI may have us consuming content from articles without ever seeing the format  Research quality should be the main thing for researchers
  • 13. Is Green a parasite? Would a Green landscape kill publishers? "Yes – I think it's a risk but one scholarly comms should take"  Going pure Green could kill publisher business models  We need infrastructure and services but is that a “publisher”?  Publishing needs to match disciplinary requirements, not one-size-fits-all "No – but publishers might need to change" • Publishing as a way of collecting and collating content • Alternative funding models e.g. publishing as a service • More specific & society publishers rather than megaliths (sorry to the megalith publishers in the audience) We're in agreement that publishers need to evolve in order to avoid the risks created by Green.
  • 14. Conclusions  What's important to an actual researcher and does Green serve that (or not)?  We want a heterogenous system with different options for different disciplines that doesn’t cost the world (in either sense).  We need Green to be more respected. Improved discovery and Generative AI will ensure our focus is on the information.  Green could become redundant, but it feels a long way down the line.