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The challenges of teaching a
professional practical discipline
in an academic setting
Session co-presented by:
• Julie Barnaby, Senior Lecturer, Leeds Metropolitan
University
• Jamie Wells, Senior Lecturer, Worcester University
• Susan Whittaker, Senior Lecturer, UWE
Auditing
• The practical professional subject we teach is
Auditing
• Today we will discuss some of the challenges we
have experienced teaching Auditing to
undergraduates
• We will demonstrate the simulation we use to
help us teach this subject
What is an audit?
• An audit is a process of checking and verifying
financial accounts by an independent
accountant in order to give a written opinion
as to whether they present a true and fair
view of the financial position of an
organisation.
The changing world of the auditor
• The role of the auditor has had to continually
evolve to address changes in the business
world.
• Recent financial scandals have called into
question the usefulness of Audit in its present
form
ACCA comment
“A strong audit function promotes trust and contributes
to the working of efficient markets…when economies
throughout the world are shaken by corporate
corruption scandals, it is important to reassess what
the future of Audit should be….”
Steve Priddy, Director of Technical Policy and Research at ACCA
(2009)
What are issues with students learning
about auditing?
• It is a practical process carried out in the real
world by professionals
• Many students have never worked and cannot
picture what it is that the auditor is doing
Students don’t understand…
• Students do not understand how businesses
operate and therefore cannot also understand
the underlying accounting systems
• Students may try to memorise theory from
lectures and text book without understanding
Students don’t see links….
• Students can’t make links between subjects –
such as link to financial accounting
Students want a “correct” answer
• Students don’t see subjectivity in audit
process e.g. understand role of judgement or
materiality
Student don’t want to question..
• Students don’t want to question and debate….
• And we should be encouraging them to
question audit process – is it fit for purpose?
Could it be changed?
Leeds Met Issues
• Students choose the module for the exemptions…but
are often pleasantly surprised
• Large cohort joins final year from China (140
students on the module around 40 of whom are
Chinese and new to the UK)
• Discomfort with “wordiness” of subject
• Taught by ex-practitioners, strong focus on “how to”
• Recently franchised – challenges and opportunities
• Current issues week – student led (or should that be
pushed!)
• Module evaluations (can we do an audit?.....) led me
to seek out Susan and Glenn
University of Worcester – Experience
of teaching auditing
• Students found the subject very theoretical as they could not
relate to a lot of the material because they do not have the
relevant experience from which to draw upon
• The textbooks could be used to teach the theory but they
could not help students understand how auditing works in the
real world
• Employability – Module feedback highlighted the issue that a
significant number of students did not feel that they had
developed these skills in the auditing module.
• As a result an alternative strategy to deliver the auditing
module through the use of an audit simulation was put in
place in September 2013
Your experiences
• What are your experiences of teaching
auditing?

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The challenges of teaching a professional practical discipline in an academic setting - Susan Whittaker, Julie Barnaby and Jamie Wells

  • 1. The challenges of teaching a professional practical discipline in an academic setting Session co-presented by: • Julie Barnaby, Senior Lecturer, Leeds Metropolitan University • Jamie Wells, Senior Lecturer, Worcester University • Susan Whittaker, Senior Lecturer, UWE
  • 2. Auditing • The practical professional subject we teach is Auditing • Today we will discuss some of the challenges we have experienced teaching Auditing to undergraduates • We will demonstrate the simulation we use to help us teach this subject
  • 3. What is an audit? • An audit is a process of checking and verifying financial accounts by an independent accountant in order to give a written opinion as to whether they present a true and fair view of the financial position of an organisation.
  • 4. The changing world of the auditor • The role of the auditor has had to continually evolve to address changes in the business world. • Recent financial scandals have called into question the usefulness of Audit in its present form
  • 5. ACCA comment “A strong audit function promotes trust and contributes to the working of efficient markets…when economies throughout the world are shaken by corporate corruption scandals, it is important to reassess what the future of Audit should be….” Steve Priddy, Director of Technical Policy and Research at ACCA (2009)
  • 6. What are issues with students learning about auditing? • It is a practical process carried out in the real world by professionals • Many students have never worked and cannot picture what it is that the auditor is doing
  • 7. Students don’t understand… • Students do not understand how businesses operate and therefore cannot also understand the underlying accounting systems • Students may try to memorise theory from lectures and text book without understanding
  • 8. Students don’t see links…. • Students can’t make links between subjects – such as link to financial accounting
  • 9. Students want a “correct” answer • Students don’t see subjectivity in audit process e.g. understand role of judgement or materiality
  • 10. Student don’t want to question.. • Students don’t want to question and debate…. • And we should be encouraging them to question audit process – is it fit for purpose? Could it be changed?
  • 11. Leeds Met Issues • Students choose the module for the exemptions…but are often pleasantly surprised • Large cohort joins final year from China (140 students on the module around 40 of whom are Chinese and new to the UK) • Discomfort with “wordiness” of subject • Taught by ex-practitioners, strong focus on “how to” • Recently franchised – challenges and opportunities • Current issues week – student led (or should that be pushed!) • Module evaluations (can we do an audit?.....) led me to seek out Susan and Glenn
  • 12. University of Worcester – Experience of teaching auditing • Students found the subject very theoretical as they could not relate to a lot of the material because they do not have the relevant experience from which to draw upon • The textbooks could be used to teach the theory but they could not help students understand how auditing works in the real world • Employability – Module feedback highlighted the issue that a significant number of students did not feel that they had developed these skills in the auditing module. • As a result an alternative strategy to deliver the auditing module through the use of an audit simulation was put in place in September 2013
  • 13. Your experiences • What are your experiences of teaching auditing?